than others?
i mean, iv yet to see a 'chinny' mexican boxer. Vast majority of celts i.e scots and irish boxers have great chins. Same africans. I could be wrong, any examples?
is it genetics? upbringing? both?
Well if you believe other wise, prove it.. Any names??
J.M. Marquez "is the first top level Mexican to have that flaw" FUNNY ASS COMMENT!!!!! LOL......
Sorry my brother, you do know sh*t about boxing.:luvbed:
I agree its like I have always heard blacks dont take punishment well to the body. So it could be true. Everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses, as a fighter you need to spot it and exploit it.
Puerto Ricans are good boxers but are not good brawlers. Cotto, trinidad, juanma, calderon, all have suspect chins.
As a Mexican its a surprise for me to see J.M. Marquez go down on every fight like that,, he is the first top level Mexican to have that flaw.
Wow some of you cant understand english very well
i said i have yet to see a chinny mexican fighter i.e they all have above average punch resitance, iv never see a pro mexicann fighter k.o'd with one punch ala HATTON OR WILLIAMS
just wondered if it was genetics somehow, but hitman explained it pretty well
i thik some races are genitically faster than others, some races genitcally stronger, some races genitcally more durable and other races gentically have less thick skulls. The aborgines of Australia, for example, have thicker skulls than the average human but ar weak at thier ankle joints.
i do think the european causcian male takes a punch less well than a hispanic/african male, although you do get some exceptions, like the celts, guys like wayne mccullogh and scott harrison
i stick to the fact the p.ricans are stronger than a lot of races, however thier chins arent as strong as the mexicans, for example. im not saying to get a reaction, i could list countless fighters as an example
just cos iv never seen it, doesnt mean it doesnt happen. stop bull****ting, you know what i mean, mexicans have better chins on average, it genetic, you cant tell me its not
And African Americans have genetic slickness.
What African Americans have are superior fast twitch muscles. That is a generalization, but it is a generalization based upon fact.
That is what allows the AA's to dominate track and field, etc.
I am referring specifically to AA's of WEST African descent.
There are genetic differences among us humans. Not based on race. Because race is an artificial construct. But based upon our geographic origins.
than others?
i mean, iv yet to see a 'chinny' mexican boxer. Vast majority of celts i.e scots and irish boxers have great chins. Same africans. I could be wrong, any examples?
is it genetics? upbringing? both?
lucero
escalante
the ruiz brothers
etc etc
Ugh I can name a fighter of just about every race of people that had an awesome chin so what exactly is the point of this thread when fighters of all colors and nationalities have been know to have Iron chins?
Bull****, all depends on your genetics! look at maidana he lives in the countryside of argentina where he breath pure air without polution, all his life he has been eating properly, true cow meat, chiken and organic vegetables and fruits, both of his parent work their whole lifes in hard heavy works. Thats whats make some one stronger no matter where you from, as Darwin says only the strongest survive!. Look at the boxers of the past with more than 100 fights, this guys really can take a punch because of the way they live.
B.S. no such thing as an race or nation with a better chin. All the other boxers you never hear from that get KOed and never make it no where. If Mexico looks like they have the best chin just check how many pro boxers they have. Mexico just my have the most pro boxers of any country
Naz=chin
Hagler=chin
V Klitschko=chin
Morales=chin
Tszyu=chin
Your point=destroyed
Agreed. I generally don't think that plays a huge part.
Chuvalo and Mavrovic are both ethnic Croatians and have two of the best chins in HW history yet Mirko Filipovic (K1/MMA) has an average chin.
Better yet look at Vitali and Volodymyr.
Wow some of you cant understand english very well
i said i have yet to see a chinny mexican fighter i.e they all have above average punch resitance, iv never see a pro mexicann fighter k.o'd with one punch ala HATTON OR WILLIAMS
just wondered if it was genetics somehow, but hitman explained it pretty well
i thik some races are genitically faster than others, some races genitcally stronger, some races genitcally more durable and other races gentically have less thick skulls. The aborgines of Australia, for example, have thicker skulls than the average human but ar weak at thier ankle joints.
i do think the european causcian male takes a punch less well than a hispanic/african male, although you do get some exceptions, like the celts, guys like wayne mccullogh and scott harrison
i stick to the fact the p.ricans are stronger than a lot of races, however thier chins arent as strong as the mexicans, for example. im not saying to get a reaction, i could list countless fighters as an example
I think most Mexicans take punches well because they move to the pro ranks when they are 16-17 years old and are taking punches without headgear on 5-6 years before the average American or European.
Obviously that's not the only reason but I think there is something to be said about getting acclimated to taking those kind of shots early in your development and learning what you have to do to roll with them and survive.
Probably also why some Latino fighters burn out at a relatively young age. Many are so proud they take unneccesary punishment just because they can.
Mexicans and africans have the best chins... How could you say such a thing about Mexican boxers you dont know sh*t about boxing..
Do you even know..
Julio Cesar Chavez?
Erik Morales?
Ricardo Lopez?
Daniel Zaragoza?
Jose Luiz Castillo?
Antonio Margarito?
Recently Jesus Soto Karass (this guy has big huevotes)
endless Mexicans with granite chins..