Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Marcos Maidana @ 140?

marquez has the reputation of always getting up everytime he gets kd`d, and he proved it during his fight with katsidis. but i would say maidana, just because of physique disparity, would still overwhelm him. arguably marquez is one of those durable fighters but more so is maidana, and marquez yet needs to established himself above 135. maidana will be too much for him imo, winner by decision.

I think Maidana at 140 is WAAAAY to big and strong for Marquez. This might be the guy that walks right through everything Marquez has and laughs at him (Mayweather.)

Marquez beat Diaz and Katsidis pretty convincingly tbh. Well, yeah, knockouts are convincing, but he certainly didn't blow them out. He had a very hard time keeping them off. At 130 or 126, Marquez blows fighters like Diaz and Kats out inside six rounds and they don't touch him. That's my point. The only reason those two were competitive is because of their size. Guess what? Maidana is WAY bigger and is IMO definitely better than either of those two.

now you are trying to spin the subject around WHAHAHAHA. let me remind you of what you said. you said that marquez struggled with kats & diaz. i brought up the point that marquez didn't get a split decision or a draw in any of those fights, and he wasn't down on the cards before he stopped those guys. you can fly off into LALA SPACE all you want but we are talking about MARQUEZ vs diaz & katsidis. marquez did not struggle in the katsidis or diaz fights. the katsidis fight was A intense war with both guys throwing lots of punches. NOTHING MORE. diaz had his moments in the 1st bout but was getting countered effectively & was ko'd. in the 2nd bout he was outboxed & blown out. again. marquez did not struggle to BEAT daiz. let that sit in your brain. you just compared maidana speed to Casamoyer & pac LOL maidana is a SLOW SLUG compared to pac. maidana is LITERALLY SWINGING in slow motion compared to those guys lol!!! its not that JMM is hard to hit. it's just that maidana is slow compared to JMM. and he loops his punches. slow wild looping fighters who come forward to JMM is a disaster waiting to happen. its almost like feeding food to JMM. i pointed towards the chop chop fight because he was countering maidana & almost beat him. a shot chop chop who no longer has a chin or who doesn't put his punches in combos anymore almost beat maidana just by countering him with 1 2's. MAIDANA WILL END UP IN A MEXICAN BODY BAG TRYING TO PLAY SLOW POKE WILD SWINGING GAMES WITH JMM LOL. WAR'S ONLY HAPPEN IF FIGHTERS ARE STRUGGLING WITH EACH OTHER. I can't believe your argument is that a fighter only struggles if they barely win a decision or get a split decision. That is seriously the dumbest thing anyone on this site has said that I've seen. Again, Marquez struggled with Diaz and Katsidis, two fighters he should blow out, because he has reached his weight limit and those two were too big for him to avoid their pressure. Stylistically, Maidana is right for Marquez but all you have to do is look at Marquez lately and see that these bigger guys, despite being easy style matchups, are giving him great fights because they can push him around and Marquez is incapable of avoiding them. If Diaz and Katsidis can so easily push Marquez around, how the hell would Marquez avoid the same thing happening with Maidana, who is bigger, stronger, better, hits harder, and is even harder to avoid because there is no way Marquez can keep him off? Damn. I can't believe this. I'm done.

Maidana stops Marquez. Marquez had immense trouble handling the size and strength of Michael Katsidis and Juan Diaz, how the hell would he handle Maidana? Marquez beat Diaz and Katsidis pretty convincingly tbh.

Maidana by KO.

you ARE a hater only pretending to be a fan of JMM LOL only a hater would come up with such none sense. 1st thing. do you know what struggle means? struggling against a fighter = BARELY winning a decision you fool. getting a draw. a split decision. just because you didn't ALL out dominate EVERY second of the fight doesn't mean you struggled. YES, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A HATER WHICH U ARE. i think pac hit marquez harder then what maidana would hit him because he didn't see pacs punches coming. maidanas shots are slow wild looping punches. although hard. you can see them coming. a shot chop chop corely almost beat maidana just by countering him. maidana's only shot would be a punchers chance. ortiz doesn't have the heart of marquez. nore does he have the boxing iq of marquez. marquez would counterfest maidana. That has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever read on this site, by far. By that logic, Corrales did not struggle with Castillo, Ali did not struggle with Frazier or Foreman, Segura did not struggle with Calderon, Margarito did not struggle with Cotto, Cotto did not struggle with Judah, Leonard did not struggle with Hearns, etc. If Maidana's punches are so easy to see coming and avoid, then how is he doing so well against top tier competition who cannot avoid those slow, looping punches? And since when is Marquez so hard to hit? Again, did you watch the Diaz and Katsidis fights besides the rounds he scored the KOs in? Did you watch the Pacquiao fights? Did you see him fight Barrera and Chris John? Did you watch him fight Casamoyer? There is seriously no logic to your argument, you just keep saying Maidana is slow and Marquez will counterpunch him. Okay, but how will he handle being pinned against the ropes often against Maidana? How will he handle a guy who punches so hard, again harder than anyone except maybe Pacquiao Marquez has ever fought? How will he handle Maidana's own will and heart? How will he avoid Maidana's punches?

Final punchstat for Marquez vs Katsidis Marquez - 327/628 = 52% katsidis - 194/630 = 31% For an aging marquez against such a young mobile fighter, I think he did great.

I got miadana by knock out, marquez willing to bang gets him in trouble mid fight plus to much power for maidana jmm 's chin won't hold up @140

Marquez should stay at 135 until his last fight... he has no business moving up.

I think Marquez would beat Maidana. That why I voted for "Martinez" by decision. I thought I just wasn't paying attention at first.

marquez put on a shut out against diaz in their 2nd fight & knocked him out in their first fight. how is that struggling with diaz? WTF? marquez countered and battered Katsidis. i didn't see him struggling against katsidis. if anything both men were just throwing many punches in an intense war. also, maidana is slow compared to marquez. i would say a 140 pound marquez is even faster then maidana. marquez would be able to hurt maidana as long as the fight goes. in other words, the longer the fight goes the greater the chance of maidana being hurt because marquez picks up his combinations & maidana becomes more sluggish.. marquez has always done well against guys who came foward to him. The first Diaz fight was FOTY. That implies the other guy was doing damn well. To say he didn't struggle with Diaz the first time around is ridiculous. Katsidis hit Marquez a lot. He knocked him down. He made Marquez work. The fight is a FOTY candidate. Again, how is that not struggling? Marquez is not fast. Where are you getting that from? He won't be able to escape Maidana's pressure, which means the only chance he would have is having to take Maidana's punches, which would be harder than any punches Marquez has ever had to take, including Pacquiao, and hope his counter punching hits hard enough to back Maidana up, which it wouldn't considering Maidana took brutal combinations against Khan and Ortiz, who hit much, much harder than Marquez and couldn't back Maidana up at all. That's what Marquez did to Diaz and Katsidis. He couldn't escape their punches, so he had to fire back with his own and hope he backed them up which they did. So you really think an even slower, even weaker, Marquez would be able to back off a guy Ortiz and Khan didn't? Even when they were knocking the guy down and landing big combos? Marquez is maybe my favorite fighter right now but I have to look like I'm a damn hater because you people have such ridiculous expectations for him.

what what part of the fight did he have problems handling the size and power of katsidis and jaun diaz? lmao both fighters are faster an more active than maidana. who seems to have bad stamina cant take body shots bad technique and is the 2nd slowest boxer behind margirito. the **** outta here marquez would knock his ass out. khan made maidana look better than what he is. just like vernon forrest made mayaorga look better than what he was. the fact marquez out punched out landed and knocked both of them out. i swear i would think 90% of the posters on this board just started watching boxing this past summer. Did you watch any of the rounds other than when he stopped Diaz and Katsidis? They were able to push him around and bully Marquez at will, and neither is that strong, especially not compared to Maidana. Maidana is plenty fast enough to catch Khan and Ortiz, two guys who move much faster than Marquez does and punch WAY harder, so I don't know how you think Marquez could stop Maidana. He's taken much harder punches than anything Marquez would hit him with. Marquez is not that good defensively. Diaz and Katsidis hit him a LOT. Marquez is just so damn good at counter punching that he is able to fend these guys off just enough to wear them down. Maidana would hit him, he would hit him a lot, and he would hit him harder than anyone has ever hit Marquez. Maidana is a step too far. Styles eventually stop mattering when a fighter is stretching beyond his physical limits, and Marquez at 140 against Maidana is beyond his physical limits.

marquez isn't getting warn down by ANYONE. the dude has world class stamina.....his punches and combinations goes up as the fight goes on. people are forgetting that maidana barely beat chop chop corely.... marquez as far as I'm convinced would be a bad style for maidana. maidana pressuring and his head being snapped back by 4 5 punch combinations is what i see. word i really wanna know what these posters are watching or smoking. maidana boxing is ****ty and khan has no defense no boxing iq. maidana stamina was shot his punchout sucks his technique is horrible. marquez would be landing at will. how will maidana knock him out when manny coulnt. he will see marcos punches comming a mile away. his pressure isnt like katsidis or iaz or as skilled and experienced as casamyor and marquez still knocked them out. too accurate to skilled too good.

Maidana stops Marquez. Marquez had immense trouble handling the size and strength of Michael Katsidis and Juan Diaz, how the hell would he handle Maidana? Marquez can't handle above 135. Deal with it people. what what part of the fight did he have problems handling the size and power of katsidis and jaun diaz? lmao both fighters are faster an more active than maidana. who seems to have bad stamina cant take body shots bad technique and is the 2nd slowest boxer behind margirito. the **** outta here marquez would knock his ass out. khan made maidana look better than what he is. just like vernon forrest made mayaorga look better than what he was. the fact marquez out punched out landed and knocked both of them out. i swear i would think 90% of the posters on this board just started watching boxing this past summer.

marquez would tko maidana. i have 100 reasons but in short marquez would outbox the slower maidana. i don't care about maidana beeing bigger. i think its a too much of a bad style for maidana. i think maidana could score a knock down but nothing more. marquez gets up and fights THAT MUCH HARDER. i would love to take everyones points if that fight was made lolol Marquez could barely handle Diaz and Katsidis. Maidana is Godzilla compared to those two. Marquez isn't fast, he wouldn't have any real speed advantage at 140. He wouldn't be able to hurt Maidana either. So he would be sitting on the ropes trying to fend off a monster and he wouldn't be able to do it. If you can't get away from Maidana or hurt him, you are f***ed.

It will be a war...you feel that maybe marquez doesn't have the legs anymore. It depends how he handles maidana's power early, because I could see marquez damaging maidana with uppercuts as well, but id favour maidana to maybe wear marquez down in the 2nd half of a highly competitive fight. Maidana's jab is underrated, to body and head he sets his attacks up well, and marquez is very static at this age.

JMM has definitely lost a step at 135lbs and is getting up there in age as well. At 140, I think he will get outmuscled and outgunned by someone as big as Maidana. Expect JMM to visit the canvas more than once.

Maidana stops Marquez. Marquez had immense trouble handling the size and strength of Michael Katsidis and Juan Diaz, how the hell would he handle Maidana? Marquez can't handle above 135. Deal with it people.

marquez stops him. and if marquez hurt him to the body maidana wouldnt make it out because marquez is smart and would have attacke the body better. maidana too slow and too wide marquez too accurate too good of a counter puncher. instead of moving halfway across the ring in fear of getting hit and holding he would have made maidana pay for all thsoe slow ass wild punches.