Pactards: Stop using Floyd as an excuse for Manny's picking behavior!

U trying to tell me that Pacquiao vs Berto, martinez, or marquez isnt a good fight? Mayweahter is not the only WW in the division, matter fact the WW division is the hottest division. Floyds on vacation so **** Floyd he doesnt want to fight let the man retire. Stop using that **** as an excuse....He fought clottey, margarito, and now mosley off that bull **** excuse...give it a rest and his nuts out your mouth. pacquiao's fights against berto, martinez or marquez does not make any sense at this point of pacquiao's career... berto = can't sell sh!t even in Haiti... doesn't mean his slick because his black.. martinez = so you mean a 147 pounder (walking weight) and a 160 champ is a good fight? dude together w/ williams only made 5000 folks at live gate.. set your mind properly son... marquez = ain't sh!t above 140... does 4900 live gate on his last out.. do you think arum and pacquiao gives a sh!t on what the hardcore fans are babbling about?.. hell no.. they gonna enter your house, f*ck your mom in the ass, slap you in the head with a grin on their face...

Horus knows how to bring the b1tch out of you dudes. that fact that dudes are posting sh1t like "tell floyd to get of vacation" proves his point. yeah floyd a b1tch. yeah floyd is scared. but what that have to do with pac choice in opponents?

Its funny how much Horus clowns himself on here.

FLOMOS logic that Pacquiao should fight every fighter who call out his name within or near his weight-class is absolutely absurd. A comebacking Mayorga has call out Pacquiao, is that mean that Pacquiao should also fight him?! That will be first-degree muder! Mayweather was called out by Cotto and Margarito but he avoided them and fought a slower Baldomir for leeser Cash. Pacquiao now is the Cash King of Boxing and he will do what he needs to do and that is to "Not Please His HATERS(Flomos and such...)" who are mostly Couch-Hugging-Fat-Bastards who trolled around the internet boxing sites and "trying hard to be intelligently opinionated" about the sport they know less-little about. Damn Shame!!!

I'm pretty sure Manny isnt scared of Berto, then again knocking out the great Freddy Hernandez would prob put fear in a lot of of top boxers eyes.

It's not Floyd's fault everyone wants to fight him while he's on vacation. It's just a big coincidence, it's not that he's scared.

cotto was in everyone eyes and hatton himself said he was not the same since the floyd fight and had a bad lookin win against lazcano and he got rid of his trainer Getting rid of your trainer doesn't equal shot. And, no Cotto was not shot in everybody eyes that is just nonsense. And, Hatton beat a top 10 JWW after Collazo so how shot could he be... Past prime? Sure Not the same fighter? Sure Shot? No And, their is a difference.

After the Manny vs Margarito fight lets face the facts, his whole target was Mosley. They been talking bout a Mosley fight since his win over margarito or a possible show down with marquez. Everybody knew the FLoyd fight wasnt going to happen and probably never will. Everybody knew the berto fight wasnt going to happen after his ko performance. Everybody knew the Martinez fight wasnt going to happen at JMW. Everybody knew he wasnt going to fight marquez at 140.....stop acting like you didnt know.. Quit using floyd as an excuse for why he is not fighting berto, martinez, marquez. Floyd beat Mosley last may, why the hell would he be fighting mosley when his last two fights were not good and all his other options are all coming off KO PERFORMANCES... If Pac wants to remain at 147, then fine, but who is out there right now besides Mosley that will be a big money fight? Can't talk about Floyd untill he settles his legal issues. Pacquiao doesn't have much of a choice at 147. Maybe we will see JMM at 147 next year and Floyd if we are lucky. I know Marquez at 147 is a joke but Pac seems unwilling to move down to 140 right now. If you ask me both Floyd and Pac could make better choices with their careers but we know its all about money with them now.

Here is the thing man, I will speak directly with you. I post and write and different sites besides this site, and I have grew up my whole life around boxing. So you saying I know nothing about boxing is pure ignorance. I hosted a show in which I let anybody call and challenge me on any topic they choose, and was not out of my depth on one issue! So how can a person host a show and have anybody in the world call in and voice their opinions and not know anything about boxing? Can I be repetitive yes, i do not deny it. But so is Msnbc, Fox news, cnn, and etc. It is called having a Ideology. Not retarded. Retarded people do not have ideology. I can write about any topic you can write about, and more people would pay attention to my point of view on the subject than yours. Simple Reason is because, I appeal to a wider audience. Good and Bad I am a boxing fan not an boxing historian. Learn the difference. Show me a link to any website about a thread you created that did not have to do with Floyd or Pac. And, yes you were out of your depth on your show. You didn't know about Hasegawa nor Rigondeaux when they were brought. You and Htown were talking about ATG Mexican fighters. You started naming names and never once did you mention Chava, Puas, Canto, Saldivar...But, yet you mentioned Oscar FFS's. So yes you were out of your depth on your own podcast show. You have yet take Reed up on his offer after you said you would...And, the reason cuz you're not versatile...You just not...I honestly don't see what you bring to the table just the same old Floyd-Pac crap that most people talk on here. I mean there has been some good fights in the last few weeks...And, have you talk about them? I don't remember seeing you in any of those threads...That any true boxing fan discuss but yet I don't see you in those conversations. So yes I question how much of a fan you truly are of the sport. Like I said maybe I'm a shot poster, but I never thought I was personally a top poster to begin with. I always felt their were/are way better posters than me. And, more knowledgeable than I am. I can make a serious big list of posters who are better and even more knowledgeable. However, I am confident that even though I am shot that I am a better poster than you. Just because I am more versatile in topics. And, I am pretty confident that I have more knowledge than you. Yes if we create a thread you might get more responses. But, that is because you like to troll use hyperbole to get a rise out of posters. But, doing that you will never really get a good healthy boxing discussion nor will people take you seriously. When I create a thread, I do it with the intentions of not trolling just to have a good healthy boxing discussions. My threads are not created to have people to go in there and **** on them. And, that is the difference between us. But, hey if that works for you then you do you :fing02:

Pac should fight them all in 1 night to satisfy the flomo :D

Cotto wasn't and Hatton neither. So answer the question. cotto was in everyone eyes and hatton himself said he was not the same since the floyd fight and had a bad lookin win against lazcano and he got rid of his trainer

You're retarded...It just that you only make threads about the same subject over and over...Hell pullcounter as horrible as a poster he is...Makes thread different topics so in that regards he is a better poster than you. Punch resistance wasn't extremely damaged either. He also almost got KO'd by Collazo, he got dropped by a nobody in at 140 previous... And, was hurt...Fact is his punch resistance wasn't ever all that Neither of those fighters were shot and you still haven't provided how they were. Shot fighters don't beat top 10 fighters. They just don't. And, so what they change styles Barrera changed his style after the Jones fights. He was not shot after wards...Plenty of fighters change styles or change game-plans...That just proof that you do not know as much as you think you do. Get your knowledge of the sport up...You really don't know shit about the sport. Here is the thing man, I will speak directly with you. I post and write and different sites besides this site, and I have grew up my whole life around boxing. So you saying I know nothing about boxing is pure ignorance. I hosted a show in which I let anybody call and challenge me on any topic they choose, and was not out of my depth on one issue! So how can a person host a show and have anybody in the world call in and voice their opinions and not know anything about boxing? Can I be repetitive yes, i do not deny it. But so is Msnbc, Fox news, cnn, and etc. It is called having a Ideology. Not retarded. Retarded people do not have ideology. I can write about any topic you can write about, and more people would pay attention to my point of view on the subject than yours. Simple Reason is because, I appeal to a wider audience. Good and Bad I am a boxing fan not an boxing historian. Learn the difference.

LOOK at my sig and click on the link. FAIL! Double Header: Tarver vs. Toney / Roy Jones Jr vs. Holyfield !!! Feb 2011 http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=431468 HOF Embarrasses Mike Tyson and Kostya Tszyu to praise Rocky Balboa! For More Horus Articles http://www.guardyourgrillboxing.com/Home_Page.php Stop the hate, and stop praying on my death. Your LIFE is a FAIL

U and Jro used to be witty, now you guys are just not interesting. Name calling Whining childish replies Excuses and the whole why me approach. Truly sad. You guys are becoming shot posters. You guys come off as hurt, bitter, and emotional. sad really. :haha: This dude is an F'ing idiot. Horus real talk, you think you're a good poster?

I wasnt going to respond to you since you have really turn into an emotional poster lately. U lost your rational touch in a real way, and therefore u are really not that interesting anymore. U are just another head in the crowd now. No difference from u and pullcounter IMO. Both of you guys focus on the wrong things when posting. Spend way too much time expressing your emotions when u post. But since I do not think the gent will respond I will respond to your post. You're retarded...It just that you only make threads about the same subject over and over...Hell pullcounter as horrible as a poster he is...Makes thread different topics so in that regards he is a better poster than you. Cotto wasnt Shot Hatton wasnt either Interesting you choose to answer that way. disingenuous much? Four Stages into becoming a shot fighter 1. Traditional Fight Habits change. (Corey Spinks prime example) Boxers becoming flat footed 2. Punch resistance drops rapidly, then previous matches. (J. Taylor, Vivan Harris, and Roy Jones Prime example) 3. Personality and Physiological change in fighter. (Mike Tyson, Zab Judah, Paulie Mag, Miguel Cotto, etc. Prime Example) 4. Out of Shape and Stamina Cotto: Shaken badly by Mosley (first time we seen him start his patten running),Battered and destroyed by Margarito (Beaten up, maybe with illegal wraps, and he was never the same again It was obivous he mindset was forever changed.)Barely survives vs Clottey, Started running earlier in the fight, Bruise faster in the fight, and was obivously a different fighter from the one that beat Judah How was he not the same again? Says who? You? He still a top 3 JMW...So what are you talking about? Hatton: 1. Punch resistance extremely damage in the Mayweather fight 2. Almost Knock out by Lazceno. ( he even admited he felt like a different fighter before and after that fight thats why he fire grahm.) 3. Changed his agressive style, and became a sitting duck! Punch resistance wasn't extremely damaged either. He also almost got KO'd by Collazo, he got dropped by a nobody in at 140 previous... And, was hurt...Fact is his punch resistance wasn't ever all that Neither of those fighters were shot and you still haven't provided how they were. Shot fighters don't beat top 10 fighters. They just don't. And, so what they change styles Barrera changed his style after the Jones fights. He was not shot after wards...Plenty of fighters change styles or change game-plans...That just proof that you do not know as much as you think you do. Get your knowledge of the sport up...You really don't know shit about the sport.

LMAO You are retarded. Pacquiao could be a part time fighter like floyd if he wanted to, but he fights on. He does this: without twitter without facebook without youtube Pacquiao is fighting the biggest value names out there that the bob father brings to him. Not that hard to figure out that this is about money. Floyd should do the same and yet he's posting pictures on facebook of him and fiddy on his boat. The fact that your argument is that floyd is a part time fighter therefor he doesn't have to fight the best opponents and yet you demand pacquiao to fight martinez/berto is laughable. U and Jro used to be witty, now you guys are just not interesting. Name calling Whining childish replies Excuses and the whole why me approach. Truly sad. You guys are becoming shot posters. You guys come off as hurt, bitter, and emotional. sad really.

If floyd would stop playing on his boat, we would be talking about Mayweather vs Pacquiao not pacquiao vs _____ Surprisingly people can't understand that concept. It's a domino effect, Floyd goes on vacation, Pac has no other option but to fight whomever. Floyd picks up his phone and shows interest, we would be seeing Pac vs Floyd. It's that simple...

what that gotta do with fighting berto, marquez, or martinez? incase you have not noticed, he fought marquez two times already. martinez is the middleweight champ! i dont remember pacquiao fighting at middleweight before? berto is a half decent fighter who hasnt achieved much in the sport yet. mosley isnt that good of a fight either, but if you think berto is an ok fight then mosley has to be an ok fight aswell. like i said in an earlier thread, if mayweather is still in hiding, then pacquiao may aswell retire.

look at EVERY post and thread you make. It's always about floyd or against manny. Do you even watch boxing or do you just fantasize about floyd? LOOK at my sig and click on the link. FAIL! Double Header: Tarver vs. Toney / Roy Jones Jr vs. Holyfield !!! Feb 2011 http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=431468 HOF Embarrasses Mike Tyson and Kostya Tszyu to praise Rocky Balboa! For More Horus Articles http://www.guardyourgrillboxing.com/Home_Page.php Stop the hate, and stop praying on my death.

Cotto wasn't and Hatton neither. So answer the question. I wasnt going to respond to you since you have really turn into an emotional poster lately. U lost your rational touch in a real way, and therefore u are really not that interesting anymore. U are just another head in the crowd now. No difference from u and pullcounter IMO. Both of you guys focus on the wrong things when posting. Spend way too much time expressing your emotions when u post. But since I do not think the gent will respond I will respond to your post. Cotto wasnt Shot Hatton wasnt either Interesting you choose to answer that way. disingenuous much? Four Stages into becoming a shot fighter 1. Traditional Fight Habits change. (Corey Spinks prime example) Boxers becoming flat footed 2. Punch resistance drops rapidly, then previous matches. (J. Taylor, Vivan Harris, and Roy Jones Prime example) 3. Personality and Physiological change in fighter. (Mike Tyson, Zab Judah, Paulie Mag, Miguel Cotto, etc. Prime Example) 4. Out of Shape and Stamina Cotto: Shaken badly by Mosley (first time we seen him start his patten running),Battered and destroyed by Margarito (Beaten up, maybe with illegal wraps, and he was never the same again It was obivous he mindset was forever changed.)Barely survives vs Clottey, Started running earlier in the fight, Bruise faster in the fight, and was obivously a different fighter from the one that beat Judah Hatton: 1. Punch resistance extremely damage in the Mayweather fight 2. Almost Knock out by Lazceno. ( he even admited he felt like a different fighter before and after that fight thats why he fire grahm.) 3. Changed his agressive style, and became a sitting duck!