Would you guys give Ortiz crap for moving to 147?

Canelo and Ortiz should train together with Barestein in Mexico...Maybe Ortiz is too distracted by his life in LA...He needs to find the inner Mexican in him and what better way then to have him train with Barestein and Marques with Canelo...them three can be on the same card for a cinco de mayo weekend... Nacho would be good for him,at this point I think any good well known trainer would be good for him.He is very talented and a great humble guy,can't let that go to waste.I met him at the Parade here in East L.A. he signed my glove and said "Thanks for the Support".I also say that about Canelo,cause in his last fight in Mexico he looked a bit exhausted breathing from his mouth,taking deep breaths.I think a change of camp would do him good.

I agree with you but I think that Ortiz needs one fight at full 147 before getting in with the big dogs...he should fight Rafal Jackiewicz and then go after Jan Zavech for the IBF title and defend his title with a few contenders before going after Berto...he's only 23... Good point, he needs a tuneup fight before getting in the ring with the likes of Berto or Canelo.

Whether he'd get flack or not, he definitely needs to. Considering how close everyone at 140 is to fighting each other and settling who the top guy is, and considering Tim, the smallest guy of them all, can make 147 and look good, he'll get those fights eventually.

Now's a good time to move up to 147. Ortiz is a big Jr Welterweight, also, he is on the outside looking in at 140. He wont get a crack at either Khan or the winner of Bradley-Alexander anytime soon. Plus, apart from Berto, there's not much talent left at the top of the 147 lb rankings after Pacquiao and Mayweather cleaned it out. He has options at 147, Berto, a potential fight with Canelo late next year. If he stays at 140, the only fights he can make will be with the loser of Bradley-Alexander or a rematch with Maidana. I agree with you but I think that Ortiz needs one fight at full 147 before getting in with the big dogs...he should fight Rafal Jackiewicz and then go after Jan Zavech for the IBF title and defend his title with a few contenders before going after Berto...he's only 23...

Now's a good time to move up to 147. Ortiz is a big Jr Welterweight, also, he is on the outside looking in at 140. He wont get a crack at either Khan or the winner of Bradley-Alexander anytime soon. Plus, apart from Berto, there's not much talent left at the top of the 147 lb rankings after Pacquiao and Mayweather cleaned it out. He has options at 147, Berto, a potential fight with Canelo late next year. If he stays at 140, the only fights he can make will be with the loser of Bradley-Alexander or a rematch with Maidana.

I think him and Canelo need new trainers,I'm a big fan of Ortiz and yes a new camp with different tactics will serve him good. Canelo and Ortiz should train together with Barestein in Mexico...Maybe Ortiz is too distracted by his life in LA...He needs to find the inner Mexican in him and what better way then to have him train with Barestein and Marques with Canelo...them three can be on the same card for a cinco de mayo weekend...

Ortiz vs. Canelo would be epic. He should target Alfonso Gomez. I think its a good idea.

This is an excellent idea. I am certain Ortiz will be a world champion in the future.

I think this would be a great idea. Nobody makes a 141lb catchweight for no reason. He must be struggling to get down. Plus most of his recent fights have been at 144. I say he should move up. There's more opportunities up there anyways. Imagine Canelo vs Ortiz at Staples Center. I say Ortiz makes an attempt at a 147 pound fight with his new trainer then go after Jan Zaveck for his IBF title...Roach would be down for this task he wanted Ortiz before Khan...

I think him and Canelo need new trainers,I'm a big fan of Ortiz and yes a new camp with different tactics will serve him good.

I wouldn't give him heat... but now's not a good time to move up with all the talent in 140. Everyone would accuse him of ducking.

i think rios should too....rios also rehydrates to 150+ and hes at 135 lol

I think this would be a great idea. Nobody makes a 141lb catchweight for no reason. He must be struggling to get down. Plus most of his recent fights have been at 144. I say he should move up. There's more opportunities up there anyways. Imagine Canelo vs Ortiz at Staples Center.