In theory it is better for the sport but in reality it is costly and impractical. Imagine blood testing every boxing fight from 4 rounders to 12 rounders irrelevant or relevant, who is going to pay? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If they found 100 more Mosleys then yeah....I would consider it broke.
They weren't able to find one Mosley so nevermind 100. Its broke, people just dont want to admit it due to cost, and teh fer of what it will do it boxing as a whole if a list of current users contain big names.
I like this. Pac's way of saying f*ck off is to incessantly lie in public, trip over his own words and invent nonsensical theories.
:lol1:
Sad they don't see this... I mean..they see it, but excuse it.
It's one way of Pac saying "F#ck off! You're not the commission so I'm not doing it" to a guy who has accused him without a single grain of evidence and of whom he sits higher in the P4P rankings.
If Pac gives in to the test, he gives away round 1.
It's obvious that PBF's intention is not levelling the field but to actually gain an advantage. This OSDT is pure mindgame...
Sad part is, flomos believe that Floyd's OSDT crusade is ACTUALLY intended for the good of the sport :nonono:
I like this. Pac's way of saying f*ck off is to incessantly lie in public, trip over his own words and invent nonsensical theories.
Ever heard of a tactful request?
"We think hes cheating because there is no way anyone can do what hes doing, hes on something".
That, isn't the way to go about it.
The only thing keeping this fight from happening, is the p ussy who requested it in the first place, even though he deemed his opponent as ordinary, one dimensional, easy work and easy money".
yes I have heard of a tactful request, Manny does it all the time asking for catch weights to accommodate his interests, it's VERY tactical to go about getting your way by doing such shameless shit. Sergio Martinez even said it yo if you want to fight a man for his title then YOU be a man too and fight him at HIS WEIGHT don't unfairly take him out of his element. THAT is tactful request..
what Floyd Sr and Jr are doing isn't a tactful request it's called honesty from people who are actually IN the fight game, people whom physically know what it takes and knows how to read other fighters. there is no doubt that Manny Pacquiao is a great fighter but that doesn't exclude him from the POSSIBILITY that he is on something, the possibility alone is reason enough to want more thorough testing
in a nutshell it's like this, you have nothing to hide right? so take the tests, the same tests that I myself will take, and show me that you can whip my ass, until then you ain't saying shit but a word
didn't pac say they could take blood in the 6th round?
No he didn't actually that was all bull shit, if he agreed like that for real then we would have the fight, what we have is more of the media lies like how after Floyd beat Shane they said Manny will be willing to take 14 days, then it was he would take the tests with no cutoff only for us to find out later on in the 24/7 shows that he only had really agreed to just 7 days despite what was being said, this is the same thing because they are preaching 1 thing 1 day and then another thing the next but regardless nothing YOU say can out do the fact that if Manny Pacquiao was ever really serious at all about taking this fight with no cut offs he would have done it last year when the offer was first made, deal with it..
if manny is so sure he's clean, why not rub it in the flomos' faces and team mayweather's faces? just do it---floyd is willing to rub it in pac fans' faces and team pacquiao's faces---why can't manny? it's so simple---
It's one way of Pac saying "F#ck off! You're not the commission so I'm not doing it" to a guy who has accused him without a single grain of evidence and of whom he sits higher in the P4P rankings.
If Pac gives in to the test, he gives away round 1.
It's obvious that PBF's intention is not levelling the field but to actually gain an advantage. This OSDT is pure mindgame...
Sad part is, flomos believe that Floyd's OSDT crusade is ACTUALLY intended for the good of the sport :nonono:
ive never seen such a pack of bickering b1tches.."manny passed yay"..."no mannys dirty he didnt do random ost's"....shut the fukk up..damn
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you couldn't be more wrong son---i'm very happy about this--it's just proving my point---manny passed a test that he has been passing--big woof---it wasn't ost's--now if manny was smart he would have gone through with the ost testing for his fight with margarito---that would have been smart--let's see of he does it in the case that he fights shane-
Nah you mad. :tragedy:
Im fine with that. I just wish they would make the testing stricter. We need to even the playing field for all fighters.
I said the same thing about baseball many years ago. It was unfair then and its unfair now. No matter whose idol is offended.
I have absolutely no problem with that and in fact support stricter testing myself. My problem is people basically blaming Pac for tests which aren't strict enough. He already mentioned he'd take any tests NSAC or the commission would require him, so the simple solution is to have them require stricter testing.
I really wish they'd hurry up refining better, non-intrusive testing methods such as better urine, sweat and even hair testing. I'm 100% sure pac would agree to those himself since he already agreed to random urine testing up to the fight.
Nonetheless, i'm still hoping that Pac would eventually change his mind again and finally agree to random testing up to the fight night. He moved from 30 days, to 21 days to 7 days. Its very likely then he'd finally decide to up to the fight night. Of course, there's also the chance that it won't happen, but there's nothing wrong with hoping for something.
This has got to be the dumbest thread to date. Everything about it is just dumb.
Why is manny passing a test for steroids that he knows about relevant?
This is gonna be a BAD NEWS for Pacman's haters!
If Pacman is clean, then what will be the next issue against him?
Can they catch Pacman in catchweight?
Do you really believe that OST has never been heard before in any sport let alone in boxing?
- Doping has become more and more a topic in all sports. In 2003, AIBA Medical Commission and AIBA Headquarters worked hard to implement the World Anti-Doping Code in the AIBA Anti-Doping Rules. Since then, AIBA remains in daily contact with the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) and is always alerted on new substances and changes.
- Source: http://www.aiba.org/documents/site1/Anti-Doping/2009/new%20page%20antidodoping.pdf
Floyd didn't administer the tests himself in the Mosley fight, USADA DID!
- USADA is an extension of WADA:
Montreal, April 7, 2003 – The World Anti-Doping Agency announced today that several sports organizations have formally adopted the World Anti-Doping Code.
Three international federations – the International Triathlon Union (ITU), the International Association of Amateur Boxing (AIBA) and the International Chess Federation (FIDE) have provided WADA with the signed document formalizing their adoption of the Code. In addition, the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA), the Canadian Centre for Ethics in Sports (CCES) and the Australian Olympic Committee (AOC) have also formally adopted the Code. The AOC has already taken the further step of implementing the rules of the Code.
Source: http://www.wada-ama.org/en/News-Center/Press-release/First-Sports-Organizations-begin-Adopting-World-Anti-Doping-Code/
AS FOR YOUR 365 DAYS A YEAR RANDOM TESTING RANT, YOU FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THE TWO RECOGNIZED PROCEDURES:
In-Competition vs. Out-of-Competition testing
How to differentiate them?
If the procedure of control is globally the same for both types of testing, the differentiation is very important.
In-Competition Testing is a test where a boxer is selected for testing in connection with a specific competition such as world championships, national tournament, Olympic Games, ... The recognised period for In-Competition Testing begins at midnight the day of the initial draw until midnight the day following the end of the competition for the boxer.
Out-of-Competition Testing - commonly abbreviated OOC - is any doping control which is - logically - not organised during the recognised period of In-Competition Testing. Out-of-Competition Testing can happen anytime and anywhere. It can happen that a boxer is tested by his/her national federation today and tomorrow the International Boxing Association turns up for another test.
SOURCE: http://www.aiba.org/default.aspx?pId=166
You provided many links but you failed to get my point. I repeat one more time and give you some clue because none of the above links show...
Clue keywords: 2 MONTHS
Did they say 2 months are more than enough to catch the athletes who is cheating or any 2 months related subjects? The fact is...hey we talking here about facts not fiction ok? Lets say I'm Floyd Mayweather and you know I only fight once a year. Lets say my next fight is somewhere in December 2011 at 154 or 160. Now my plan is to gain more muscles in my next fight at 154. From now on I got 10 months period in my training without fearing randomly tested. I can take steroids or any PEDs to help me gain that kind of muscles I need then stop taking it when I reached my target somewhere in between Septembet and October to flush out any traces of PEDs in my system so that in November, the start of OST I'm very clean. You think that is not possible? That is why this Floyd 2 months OST is pure bullsh!t!
We should not forget 2 months OST never been heard before in any sport let alone in boxing. Tygart and Floyd complicting themselves big time regarding about this issue. Floyd 2 months invented OST mocking the real Olympic Testing in which they tested their athletes 24/7/365 or any day or anytime not by some kind of sh!t where Floyd knows he gonna be tested for 2 months and the next few months he can do what he wants knowing nobody will test him randomly. Neutral fans with knowledge of the true nature of Olympic Random Testing will see this Floyd invented OST as ducking move and a blackeye to the real Olympic Testing.
Do you really believe that OST has never been heard before in any sport let alone in boxing?
- Doping has become more and more a topic in all sports. In 2003, AIBA Medical Commission and AIBA Headquarters worked hard to implement the World Anti-Doping Code in the AIBA Anti-Doping Rules. Since then, AIBA remains in daily contact with the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) and is always alerted on new substances and changes.
- Source: http://www.aiba.org/documents/site1/Anti-Doping/2009/new%20page%20antidodoping.pdf
Floyd didn't administer the tests himself in the Mosley fight, USADA DID!
- USADA is an extension of WADA:
Montreal, April 7, 2003 – The World Anti-Doping Agency announced today that several sports organizations have formally adopted the World Anti-Doping Code.
Three international federations – the International Triathlon Union (ITU), the International Association of Amateur Boxing (AIBA) and the International Chess Federation (FIDE) have provided WADA with the signed document formalizing their adoption of the Code. In addition, the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA), the Canadian Centre for Ethics in Sports (CCES) and the Australian Olympic Committee (AOC) have also formally adopted the Code. The AOC has already taken the further step of implementing the rules of the Code.
Source: http://www.wada-ama.org/en/News-Center/Press-release/First-Sports-Organizations-begin-Adopting-World-Anti-Doping-Code/
AS FOR YOUR 365 DAYS A YEAR RANDOM TESTING RANT, YOU FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THE TWO RECOGNIZED PROCEDURES:
In-Competition vs. Out-of-Competition testing
How to differentiate them?
If the procedure of control is globally the same for both types of testing, the differentiation is very important.
In-Competition Testing is a test where a boxer is selected for testing in connection with a specific competition such as world championships, national tournament, Olympic Games, ... The recognised period for In-Competition Testing begins at midnight the day of the initial draw until midnight the day following the end of the competition for the boxer.
Out-of-Competition Testing - commonly abbreviated OOC - is any doping control which is - logically - not organised during the recognised period of In-Competition Testing. Out-of-Competition Testing can happen anytime and anywhere. It can happen that a boxer is tested by his/her national federation today and tomorrow the International Boxing Association turns up for another test.
SOURCE: http://www.aiba.org/default.aspx?pId=166
Travis Tygart, chief executive director of The United States Anti-Doping Agency, says that seven-division champion, Manny Pacquiao, is "missing the point."
"You can't have a blackout period," said Tygart, referring to Pacquiao's timetable. "You simply can't draw circles around certain times where you're not going to be tested."
Source: http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/06/08/travis-tygart-manny-pacquiaos-14-day-window-misses-the-point/
We should not forget this 2 months OST never been heard before in any sport let alone in boxing. Tygart and Floyd complicting themselves big time regarding about this issue. Floyd 2 months invented OST mocking the real Olympic Testing in which they tested their athletes 24/7/365 or any day or anytime not by some kind of sh!t where Floyd knows he gonna be tested for 2 months and the next few months he can do whatever he wants knowing nobody will test him randomly. Neutral fans with knowledge of the true nature of Olympic Random Testing will see this Floyd invented OST as ducking move and a blackeye to the real Olympic Testing.
Because he's not comfortable. It may be psychological or something but that doesn't mean he's on something. So, tests immediately after a fight doesn't mean ****?...only to Flomos is suppose. Floyd will always find reasons to duck the best, right now as long as Pac isn't budging to his full OST demands he'll stick with that excuse.
Travis Tygart, chief executive director of The United States Anti-Doping Agency, says that seven-division champion, Manny Pacquiao, is "missing the point."
"You can't have a blackout period," said Tygart, referring to Pacquiao's timetable. "You simply can't draw circles around certain times where you're not going to be tested."
Source: http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/06/08/travis-tygart-manny-pacquiaos-14-day-window-misses-the-point/