how much was jmm's guarantee against wifebeater jr? $5 million?

Marquez beat him twice already

cause its a trilogy LOL rubbermatch are for fighter that have win once each. Marquez have none.

where'd you go pull? is it past your bedtime?lol---or is it masterbation sensation time?--what are you going to watch this time while you're in battle with your little man? which pacquiao fight?

Marquez lost the first 2 fights, one of the judges had an error on there scorecard for first fight. Marquez is in no place to be making demands. Guy is unknown to casual fans, that is why his fights sell like dog **** without Pacquiao. I agree. Ringside seats for Pacquiao vs Marquez $300 Ringside seats for Mayweather vs Marquez $1000. The difference is I got my moneys worth with Manny vs JMM.

How much did Floyd make vs. Baldomir? How much did he make in his next fight vs. DLH?! They better be comparable or else this thread is....shot.

so, even though jmm didn't get a $5 million guarantee against wifebeater jr, he deserves $5 million guarantee with pac because 1) he's more skillful than marg 2) they have history 3) jmm lost to pac 2x considering that, it makes sense.... but if we weigh that against 1) jmm is ineffective above lightweight 2) jmm lost every round to wifebeater 3) jmm would probably lose to any top 5 WW it doesn't really justify a $5 million guarantee purse... and if we look at the fact that jmm didn't get a $5 milllion guarantee against wifebeater... that kinda tips the balance towards jmm begging for $5 milllion as a somewhat ridiculous demand...i didn't say anything about jmm being more skillful than tony--even though i didn't have to put that--that's obvious---and jmm didn't lose to manny twice---have you forgotten history? don't let your judgments cloud logic here buddy boy---manny and jmm drew in their 1st bout and manny won the rematch by a point--which manny thought he lost anyway--so keeping that in mind--that's just a smidge of why jmm deserves 5 million---you're right---jmm was only guaranteed 4 million for floyd---in a one sided beating--but ask yourself this--- if manny is making jmm come up to 147 pounds for this fight, knowing that jmm looked bad at 142---why should he let him have 5 million guaranteed? he is taking away advantages from jmm--just to have him make basically nothing compared to what he would make---would manny even defend his ww title against jmm? manny is full of dog doody---he has cotto fight him at 145 for cotto's belt only to have cotto make exceptionally less than he did--many gets the advantages and most of the money? and a ****king title? that's really messed up and you know it whether you admit it or not--- and i know he didn't make cotto sign the contract but his actions were wimp like--and so was arum's----jmm desrves 5 million due to the historical significane of their rivalry and the fact that he's giving up all of the advantages physically speaking--- you bring up jmm making only 4 million for floyd, so he shouldn't be guaranteed 5 million for manny, but didn't make more for fighting de la hoya than what he made for the rematch with jmm? what's that saying? it should be a little more fair for jmm--- floyd made 8 million guaranteed for baldomir and then made 10 million guaranteed for de la hoya his next fight--so what's your point on that? if you want to spin it that way as far as jmm not doing good numbers with diaz and katsidis compared to manny and margarito and clottey---that's a b1tch move on your part if you ask me--- do you think manny shold get 50/50 for floyd then by that logic? coz he doesn't do more numbers than floyd, yet people on here seem to think he desrves 50/50, when he clearly doesn't by that logic-- yet, floyd agreed to 50/50 before manny walked away from the fight--- why can't manny? why not compare what manny made for the 1st 2 bouts with marquez to get a better barometer of how much they should make against each other--rather than comparing how much they make against different opponents--because jmm did great numbers with floyd--but didn't do great numbers with manny in their rematch compared to the mayweather fight---but he did good numbers with hatton and oscar and cotto and margarito and even clottey for that matter--

guess again dumbo--that's not where i was going with it---you're speculating that flomos are trying to claim manny is ducking jmm, and that's not the case at all when it comes to money--the fight itself has nothing to do with money---if manny is ducking jmm or the other way around it's damn sure not because of money---so speak for yourself next time and stop insinuating what flomos are doing because you're doing nothing more than running into a brick wall with it punk-- so jmm did not get $5 million for wifebeater jr? if he didn't, then why should he get more for for pac?

I actually read on Boxingscene he was guaranteed $4 million dollars against Floyd, now I agree with a lot of the posters here that it will sell more than Floyd vs JMM because they have history together, you keep asking why does Marquez deserves more? Simple, he has history with Pac, you and pactards say he lost 2x, in reality its 1-1 for Pac, with both fights being close, now some of you will bring up the judge's error in the first fight, but the fact remains its will go down in history as a draw, the 2nd fight was close and they had Pac win by one point, a lot of boxing experts had Marquez winning, but Pac got the W, both fights were close and people want to see (well wanted to see the 3rd fight at 135) the 3rd fight, now Mosley and Tony aren't on the on the P4P list, aren't lineal Champs in any division and which I believe should be enough to guarantee Marquez an extra $1mil and give him the total of $5 mil. so having history, being on an imaginary list and being the lineal champ at LW gives you the right to demand $5 milllion from the man who is on top of that imaginary list and is the #2 guy 2 weight divisions above said LW? now let's take your scenario and apply it to jmm vs john. how much does john deserve against jmm if they were to rematch? would it be comparable to what yo believe jmm should get for pac or something else lower or higher considering that john officially has a W over jmm?

jmm doesn't deserves $5 million if you wanna be logical about it. the flomos are just saying jmm deserves it to make it appear it is pac who doesn't want the fight and he's ducking jmm. it's all about their rotten personal agenda...they will agree to anything even illogical to try to make pac look bad. they don't care if they look stupid as long as they can go on with their agenda.guess again dumbo--that's not where i was going with it---you're speculating that flomos are trying to claim manny is ducking jmm, and that's not the case at all when it comes to money--the fight itself has nothing to do with money---if manny is ducking jmm or the other way around it's damn sure not because of money---so speak for yourself next time and stop insinuating what flomos are doing because you're doing nothing more than running into a brick wall with it punk--

Oh my god. Did Chris John and JMM do 500k on PPV? Did JMM and Chris John have a back and forth battle and was considered FoTY? There's a reason why JMM vs. Pacquiao 2 sold out and did 600k. Wanna know why? They had history. given your scenario, how much would jmm/john do and what would the purse split be? remember, john officially has a W over jmm.

so jmm and chris john have history. does how much does jmm get in the rematch? Oh my god. Did Chris John and JMM do 500k on PPV? Did JMM and Chris John have a back and forth battle and was considered FoTY? There's a reason why JMM vs. Pacquiao 2 sold out and did 600k. Wanna know why? They had history.

Is that happening now? No. Stop making up make believe questions. The reality is Marquez is a bigger fight now, plain and simple. He deserves the 5mill, and a part of the PPV revenue because this is a BIG fight. The excuses people make are hilarious. "He's overpricing himself" No he's not. It would be a bigger fight than Cotto vs. Pacquiao for sure. Cotto asked for what exactly? 4MILL? What's wrong with 5mill when YOU KNOW it's gonna be a bigger fight. The problem is Pacquiao doesn't wanna take the risk. so more people saw jmm get beat up by wifebeater, or did more people see jmm beat up on kastidis and diaz? and if you compare those two numbers, did more people see jmm get beat up or beating up someone else?

Mayweather vs. Mosley had history. Mayweather vs. Marquez did not. According to the media, Mayweather was ducking Shane for years. Thus it brought interest to the fight. People have been wanting to see this fight for years. Marquez was just Mayweather's return fight. It had no history at all. The hype was all around "Mayweather is back". De La Hoya vs. Mosley 1 did 500k. It was a close fight and people thought De La Hoya won, which made the rematch much greater because both of these guys had HISTORY. The 2nd fight did 950k. Like I said, Marquez is the bigger fight plain and simple because of one thing. HISTORY. Denying it just proves you're highly lacking in business skills. so jmm and chris john have history. does how much does jmm get in the rematch?

I remember he made around $ 4 mil made $4 million total or got a $4 milliion guarantee + ppv upside? also, is $4 million the same as $5 million?

so you are backing away from your prior position where if jmm were to lower his guarantee to at or below what mosley is asking for you would still not fight jmm? Is that happening now? No. Stop making up make believe questions. The reality is Marquez is a bigger fight now, plain and simple. He deserves the 5mill, and a part of the PPV revenue because this is a BIG fight. The excuses people make are hilarious. "He's overpricing himself" No he's not. It would be a bigger fight than Cotto vs. Pacquiao for sure. Cotto asked for what exactly? 4MILL? What's wrong with 5mill when YOU KNOW it's gonna be a bigger fight. The problem is Pacquiao doesn't wanna take the risk.

these are not the numbers I asked you to compare. Mayweather vs. Mosley had history. Mayweather vs. Marquez did not. According to the media, Mayweather was ducking Shane for years. Thus it brought interest to the fight. People have been wanting to see this fight for years. Marquez was just Mayweather's return fight. It had no history at all. The hype was all around "Mayweather is back". De La Hoya vs. Mosley 1 did 500k. It was a close fight and people thought De La Hoya won, which made the rematch much greater because both of these guys had HISTORY. The 2nd fight did 950k. Like I said, Marquez is the bigger fight plain and simple because of one thing. HISTORY. Denying it just proves you're highly lacking in business skills.

Well no ****. Anyone in Pacquiao's position would do the same thing. It's cherry picking. The fact is Marquez sure is asking for a 5mill purse, but the reward would be great. Like I said, Sold out MGM grand, 1.5mill homes easy. The problem is, it's a risky fight for Pacquiao and he just doesn't wanna admit it. I lol'd at "People don't want to see the Marquez fight" yet they want to see Mosley somehow. It's a joke and he knows it, he doesn't wanna lose. Instead he'll build his resume and finally go for one big pay day against Floyd and retire. so you are backing away from your prior position where if jmm were to lower his guarantee to at or below what mosley is asking for you would still not fight jmm?

Marquez and Diaz did 250k buys. Mosley vs. Mora did 85k. Care to explain? Both Diaz and Mora aren't usually known to Casual fans. these are not the numbers I asked you to compare.

Because JMM looks sh!t above 135... I must concur, JMM's sole attempt at fighting above 135 lbs was a disaster.

so if you were pac, you would always choose less risky fights, even if the reward would be better to fight a riskier fight? Well no ****. Anyone in Pacquiao's position would do the same thing. It's cherry picking. The fact is Marquez sure is asking for a 5mill purse, but the reward would be great. Like I said, Sold out MGM grand, 1.5mill homes easy. The problem is, it's a risky fight for Pacquiao and he just doesn't wanna admit it. I lol'd at "People don't want to see the Marquez fight" yet they want to see Mosley somehow. It's a joke and he knows it, he doesn't wanna lose. Instead he'll build his resume and finally go for one big pay day against Floyd and retire.