I'm Kinda liking Lamont Peterson to beat ORTIZ

My advice for Ortiz is to move to 147 and hire roach cuz roach won't train Ortiz at 140 cuz Khan and Ortiz can clash...Ortiz was trying to fight slick and he did it too much...I think Danny Garcia can be assistant trainer and Roach should take over...Ortiz has Pacquiao like qualities and hits so much harder than Khan...Ortiz can probably be better than Pacquiao if Roach trains him...either he should hire roach for a 147 debute or Bradley's trainer for 147, but I noticed Ortiz will be drained at exactly 140 he came in at 156!!! I knew something was up once I heard that it was at 141lbs, and that it was only scheduled for 10 rounds. He needs some serious work because I saw a lot of potential going to waste tonight.

a promising start turned into a below par finish for ortiz , such a dissapointment , he could have made a real statement tonight , i guess the ghosts of maidana are still there because he seems too passive at times , vic definantely has the ability though and IMO he should have gotten the decision

My advice for Ortiz is to move to 147 and hire roach cuz roach won't train Ortiz at 140 cuz Khan and Ortiz can clash...Ortiz was trying to fight slick and he did it too much...I think Danny Garcia can be assistant trainer and Roach should take over...Ortiz has Pacquiao like qualities and hits so much harder than Khan...Ortiz can probably be better than Pacquiao if Roach trains him...either he should hire roach for a 147 debute or Bradley's trainer for 147, but I noticed Ortiz will be drained at exactly 140 he came in at 156!!! Garcia can no longer match ortiz' talent with world class combos which is what he lacked in this fight and someone teach Ortiz how to jab affectively!!!

My advice for Ortiz is to move to 147 and hire roach cuz roach won't train Ortiz at 140 cuz Khan and Ortiz can clash...Ortiz was trying to fight slick and he did it too much...I think Danny Garcia can be assistant trainer and Roach should take over...Ortiz has Pacquiao like qualities and hits so much harder than Khan...Ortiz can probably be better than Pacquiao if Roach trains him...either he should hire roach for a 147 debute or Bradley's trainer for 147, but I noticed Ortiz will be drained at exactly 140 he came in at 156!!!

Came 1 knockdown away from hitting the big dog!!!! damn http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=435603 some lock lol it won.... which is all that matters.

He is a decided underdog I'm sure, although my sportsbook hasn't posted the odds yet. But Ortiz really hasn't fought anyone at this level yet Technically speaking. Like Maidana is a pretty decent fighter, but i consider him maybe a C+ or a B- type of guy. Lamont is definetly a B fighter with some potential to move up, but he is a competely different fighter then Maidana He is technically a very good fighter. Multi-dimensional in the sense that he can box and he can fight. Peterson definitely has a chin, although Bradley isn't a big puncher and he dropped/hurt him. But Bradley hurts lots of sturdy guys, and Ortiz doesn't apply the kind of pressure that's gonna really bother Lamont. This is a good matchup. Should be a hell of a fight. I wanna favor Lamont though. Ortiz didnt look good against Campbell or Maidana, the two best fighters he has fought. Ortiz has REAL power though, so a KO is surely possible We shall see. THOUGHTS?! http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=435603 some lock lol

If Ortiz loses Golden Boy will **** themselves...I think their matchmakers feel pretty comfortable about this one.

Done deal. I'll add it to my bets thread. I won't be able to pay immediately if I lose, because I'll be in Las Vegas at the fight! and I'll be drunk probably not online. dizzone tunney (this is just a present for you for hooking me up with so many streams)

Ortiz wins this fight by UD. I'd bet on a score like 116-112 for Victor. Possibly a knockdown near the end of the fight.

lamont just doesnt have that sting on his punches...... and gbp matched ortiz well to continue his comeback.. wit that said ortiz by ko ortiz should win this. ortiz is the more naturally gifted athlete. ortiz is a boxer/puncher. lamont is a boxer. ortiz should win and might get a stoppage. lamont is B- to C level boxer. one thing is for sure, it's gonna be a pitty-pat affair. super boring. I agree with everything said, but as soft a puncher as Lamont is, I HATE the way Ortiz responds to getting hit. He pulls back and it seems like EVERY SINGLE punch bothers him. Peterson is gonna be peppering all the time. I think Ortiz is gonna be frustrated a lot

I've been looking for someone to bet with. I'll put 2 million on Ortiz to your 1 million on Peterson. Deal? How bout 100K to my 1000...lol

He is a decided underdog I'm sure, although my sportsbook hasn't posted the odds yet. But Ortiz really hasn't fought anyone at this level yet Technically speaking. Like Maidana is a pretty decent fighter, but i consider him maybe a C+ or a B- type of guy. Lamont is definetly a B fighter with some potential to move up, but he is a competely different fighter then Maidana He is technically a very good fighter. Multi-dimensional in the sense that he can box and he can fight. Peterson definitely has a chin, although Bradley isn't a big puncher and he dropped/hurt him. But Bradley hurts lots of sturdy guys, and Ortiz doesn't apply the kind of pressure that's gonna really bother Lamont. This is a good matchup. Should be a hell of a fight. I wanna favor Lamont though. Ortiz didnt look good against Campbell or Maidana, the two best fighters he has fought. Ortiz has REAL power though, so a KO is surely possible We shall see. THOUGHTS?! ortiz should win this. ortiz is the more naturally gifted athlete. ortiz is a boxer/puncher. lamont is a boxer. ortiz should win and might get a stoppage. lamont is B- to C level boxer. one thing is for sure, it's gonna be a pitty-pat affair. super boring.

lamont just doesnt have that sting on his punches...... and gbp matched ortiz well to continue his comeback.. wit that said ortiz by ko

I've been looking for someone to bet with. I'll put 2 million on Ortiz to your 1 million on Peterson. Deal? I'll take that tunney. just for sh its and giggles.