I liked Martinez before, he's either trying too hard to get a big payday or he's just a jerk-off. Either way, he should cut the crap.
His biggest accomplishments are 1-1 against P. Will and a win over a drunk Pavlik. Wow, GOAT.
why sergoi make insult on my idol? manny is congressman and sergoi is not in congress.
manny have 8 weight classes.
So, why is Pac ducking Sergio?
Let's get it on.
i havent heard pac say he wouldnt fight Maravilla, and for him to be ducking Sergio, thats what he would have to come out and say. If they do fight, i say let it be at 154 or no fight, cause its right in between both fighters weight classes ,since pac is moving down to 147 and sergio is staying at 160.
I liked Martinez before, he's either trying too hard to get a big payday or he's just a jerk-off. Either way, he should cut the crap.
His biggest accomplishments are 1-1 against P. Will and a win over a drunk Pavlik. Wow, GOAT.
right on... not to mention martinez' loss to margarito... and we all know what happened to margarito last month... why don't he campaign at light heavy so we can see if at least he can duplicate what pac has done...
why if the fighters that weight more than him @ (168) would not bring in a huge payday to support him and his family luxury wise for decades if he'd losed the fight and decided to retire like a fight would if it came down in weight which in my eyes is even stevens for only cotto and mayweather and he'd be set finacially regardless if won or losed. WHICH IS THE GREATER RISK! He knows this is his opportunity to make the big bucks and why not go after it for his sake and the sake of his family to be well taken care of. Pacman went up in weight but faught in catch weight with fighters that he knew he really had a good chance to beat and at the same chance had a legit fanbase to make good money in case he"d lost!!
why don't s-mart follow the wifebeater blueprint and move up in weight and fight super MWs then?
I'm a fan and I understand that he wants a huge payday but it's a little embarrassing that he is chasing after smaller fighters.
why if the fighters that weight more than him @ (168) would not bring in a huge payday to support him and his family luxury wise for decades if he'd losed the fight and decided to retire like a fight would if it came down in weight which in my eyes is even stevens for only cotto and mayweather and he'd be set finacially regardless if won or losed. WHICH IS THE GREATER RISK! He knows this is his opportunity to make the big bucks and why not go after it for his sake and the sake of his family to be well taken care of. Pacman went up in weight but faught in catch weight with fighters that he knew he really had a good chance to beat and at the same chance had a legit fanbase to make good money in case he"d lost!!
why sergoi make insult on my idol manny. sergoi get knockout by margrito and manny beat margrito.
so manny is better than sergoi.
manny is congressman. is sergoi in congress?
lmao :bottle::bottle::bottle:
i believe cause both ko's were early in there careers, thats my opinion and they developed into beterr fighters as there careers progressed!!
No problem should have a problem with that.
He should go for it I agree, and even though I don't think none of those high profile fighters will fight him. I hope that I am wrong and one of them decides to step up to the plate.
My issue now is with some these Floyd dickriders who are in here saying Martinez speaks the truth Pac fought a shot Cotto but yet Martinez wants to fight Cotto. There is nothing wrong with that because I don't think Cotto is shot but I don't think Cotto can win a round against Martinez. But, how can you applaud him for saying what he said about Cotto but then turn a blind eye for him wanting to fight Cotto? Because, he is more negative towards your favorite fighter main rival right now?
Again no problem with him going for the high profile fight. My issue is if you can't get them then take on the best possible opponent. Legit threats who are willing to fight you, don't ignore them and then have negotiations with lesser fighters.
I gotta admit that I don't like the way Dibella and Martinez have shrugged off Dzinziruk and Pirog. It is also hypocritical to bash Pac for fighting Cotto and not bash Martinez for it. I just don't like the fact that a rematch between Manny and Cotto was ever discussed.
Wait a minute, isn't he calling out Cotto too though??
And, that is what I am saying.
There is nothing wrong with him calling out Cotto. But, don't shit on Pac for fighting Cotto either.
Because, that is just being hypocritical.
That was a blanket statement about Pacquiao's opponents since Marquez, but specifying on Cotto he said que taba chocado. Cotto was coming off 3 out of 4 fights where he took 200+ power punches and still had to come down to 145, so he's not wrong in that.
And, then he took another ass whoopen from Pac, yet Sergio wants to fight him again nothing wrong with that just hypocritical.
What's the promoters' job then? What's manager or adviser's job? So what you're trying to tell me is it's Pacquiao asking directly for the catchweights and not his team? Good sh!t man, I didn't know who to blame, but now I know who the genius is for that.
Of course Pac is to blame who else deserves it? It all falls on Pac, he is charge whether he likes it or not.
I never heard of a promoter avoiding a fighter is a fighter avoiding a fighter.
If Pac goes along with the 2011 date that is Mosley and the winner of Cotto-Margarito rematch should Pac gets a pass cuz he is promoter is doing his job? WTF?
Dzinzurik and Pirog are the 8th ranked Jr. Middleweight and Middleweight, respectively, are you saying Martinez should find out who they are and choose to fight them, even though they're ranked 8th in the division and wouldn't make him as much money as Lee because they are much better? Ridiculous...
Other respectable rankings has Dzinziruk #1 as a JMW, while Pirog at #7. You won't find a respectable ranking that has Duddy in the top 10.
And, I have no problem if it was Duddy as a tune up to a possible Pirog or Dzinziruk showdown in the summer. But, they not even looking at that as a possibility.
Clottey's better than the nonstop holding Mosley at this point, so when should the rematch be set...
I don't know how Clottey can be considered better than Shane. But, instead of Shane you damn right that Bradley if he wins at 140 should be set, or JMM at 135 should be set, or Berto at 147 should be set. Not no fucking Mosley.
I liked Martinez before, he's either trying too hard to get a big payday or he's just a jerk-off. Either way, he should cut the crap.
His biggest accomplishments are 1-1 against P. Will and a win over a drunk Pavlik. Wow, GOAT.
take it easy beezy...
Pac fan here and i'd love to see them fight because it'd be ****ing fireworks. i think that if pac lost, at least its against a tough mofo like maravilla (who i've been liking for awhile now) and i'd give credit to Pac for facing a dagerous cat like him and not ducking, dodging and making excuses like that joto Mayputo..i got Sergio by tko if it happens....too big, strong and just about as fast.
So, why is Pac ducking Sergio?
Let's get it on.
What's the promoters' job then? What's manager or adviser's job? So what you're trying to tell me is it's Pacquiao asking directly for the catchweights and not his team? Good sh!t man, I didn't know who to blame, but now I know who the genius is for that.
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Arum has said (don't laugh) that Manny picks his own fights.
What I imagine is that Arum, Roach and Trampler sit down and formulate, and then tell Manny:
Fighter A is a relatively easy win. You would be guaranteed $7 million with a possible total of 13 million
Fighter B is a big guy, and less well known. He is also fast and poses stylistic problems. You may get $5-8 million for that fight
Fighter C is an easy fight if you box, but he hits hard so there's some risk. Nobody knows him, and you would get $5-7 million.
Poochiao fans will duck this thread.
take it easy beezy...
Pac fan here and i'd love to see them fight because it'd be ****ing fireworks. i think that if pac lost, at least its against a tough mofo like maravilla (who i've been liking for awhile now) and i'd give credit to Pac for facing a dagerous cat like him and not ducking, dodging and making excuses like that joto Mayputo..i got Sergio by tko if it happens....too big, strong and just about as fast.
Dude he said he is close to the morgue, if that doesn't mean shot then I don't know what is.
Dibella/Martinez they're the same team...It falls on Martinez.
Dzinziruk and Pirog are much better than Lee.
That was a blanket statement about Pacquiao's opponents since Marquez, but specifying on Cotto he said que taba chocado. Cotto was coming off 3 out of 4 fights where he took 200+ power punches and still had to come down to 145, so he's not wrong in that.
What's the promoters' job then? What's manager or adviser's job? So what you're trying to tell me is it's Pacquiao asking directly for the catchweights and not his team? Good sh!t man, I didn't know who to blame, but now I know who the genius is for that.
Dzinzurik and Pirog are the 8th ranked Jr. Middleweight and Middleweight, respectively, are you saying Martinez should find out who they are and choose to fight them, even though they're ranked 8th in the division and wouldn't make him as much money as Lee because they are much better? Ridiculous...
Clottey's better than the nonstop holding Mosley at this point, so when should the rematch be set...
My personal issue with the Cotto fight has always been the weight. A little bit with the timing, but mostly with the weight.
Paclanders say that "it was ONLY two pounds". Well, if the two pounds were insignificant, why did Manny INSIST on them?
I remember when Figueroa came on LEFTY's show and Figueroa spoke about making weight saying (Don't remember word for word) "When it comes to losing the last 2-3 pounds...those 2-3 pounds are a mother fucker to get rid of". Thats why I never understood when people say "It's only 2 pounds!".
My personal issue with the Cotto fight has always been the weight. A little bit with the timing, but mostly with the weight.
Paclanders say that "it was ONLY two pounds". Well, if the two pounds were insignificant, why did Manny INSIST on them?
I don't care about that... I don't think it change the outcome of the fight.
If P-Will would of fought Martinez at 160 and not 158 would the out come have changed? I don't think so...
From the reports I got when Cotto weighed 146 against Clottey in the fight prior he was laughing it up after the weigh-in. While Clottey who weighed 147 was drinking gallons of water. To me that proves who had more problems making 147. I don't think Cotto was drained or had that much trouble making 145.
The Margarito catch-weight crap was BS. The other Cotto fight legit in my book.