Providing that Pac/Floyd doesn't get made in the next year this is what I feel the P4P list could look like a year from now.
1) Pacquiao
2) Sergio or PBF, you decide.
3) Sergio or PBF, you decide.
4) JMM
5) *Winner of the fight between the Montiel/Donaire winner vs. Bantamweight tournament winner* .
6) *Winner of the Super-Middleweight tournament vs. Lucian Bute or Mikkel Kessler* .
7) *The dominant Junior-Welterweight*
8) The dominant Featherweight (e.g. Juanma Lopez, Chris John or Gamboa).
9) Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
10) The dominant Light-Heavyweight (e.g. Pascal, Hopkins or Dawson).
Notes:
The Montiel/Donaire winner would be top-10 P4P anyway, but if they were to beat, or be beaten, by the Bantamweight tournament winner, that fighter should be #5 P4P, perhaps even 4th ahead of JMM.
The winner of the SMW tournament would also be top-10 P4P. BTW, I currently have Carl Froch in my P4P list as I think his resume is superb and is also undefeated IMO (I had him drawing against Kessler, not losing). If the winner of this tournament fights Kessler (he is promised a fight with the tournament winner) or Lucian Bute (another top fighter), then the winner of these fights would be #6 P4P IMO.
JWW is one of the best divisions in the sport, and the winners of Khan/Maidana and Bradley/Alexander are probably going to fight each other in the summer. This would determine the lineal championship at JWW and unify the division too. I think that the lineal champ at 140 deserves to be #7 P4P.
** I've purposefully left out all Heavyweights (e.g. Wlad, Vitali and Haye) as I think that Heavyweights shouldn't be in P4P lists.
Your thoughts and predictions? Who do you think will win the above tournaments and match-ups?
if pac fights mosley they will bump him down. Mark my words sergio will be number one if pac keeps cherry picking and floyd stays on vacation
not for the rest of pacs career he wont!! Pac fighting name mosley is not a bad thing, and will keep him atop, the name marquez berto cotto any of those names will. Esp mayweather,
but martinez , at that weight there arent many names with star power if any!! Not with the strength to make you p4p king, paul and pavlik was good wins for this, but not enuf!! Move up sergio and fight stiffer comp and win then you got it, move down andwin then you got it. But staying at mw, wont give you the p4p#1 stop.
He diff has the ko of the year, and arguably the foty, maybe
if he was to beat Soto,a Katsidis and Victor Ortiz then i think he would be i with a good shout for the top ten
He'd beat Acosta. Soto would be a good fight. IDK man, not sure I see him beating Katsidis a the moment, Kats has got heart and is powerful, he is one-handed though so perhaps Rios could.
Victor Ortiz beats Brandon Rios in a war, potentially FotY.
Rios? Even if he beats Acosta and/or Soto he's nowhere the top10. He needs to beat JMM to become the top Lightweight in order to get a P4P rating. Or move up in weight and become the top 140-pounder. Placing Rios at 11 is contradicting your list as JMM and Khan are both placed above him.
if he was to beat Soto,a Katsidis and Victor Ortiz then i think he would be i with a good shout for the top ten
I agree, I'm glad we might get a few clear cut champions in each division.
I think Ward will come out as the dominant SMW (I had Froch losing to Kessler didn't think it was that close and I believe Ward beats both)
Donaire as Bantamweight Champion
Still undecided in the Featherweight division either Lopez or John
And I think Hopkins will beat Pascal (but lose to Dawson) but I don't expect Hopkins to fight Dawson.
I'm glad too. I love it when there's a champion in the division and it's not up for debate about who the top dog is.
This time next year we should have lineal champs in Super-Middle, Junior-Welter, Bantamweight, Featherweight, Light-heavy, Middle, Heavyweight etc.
We should also have a lineal champ at Super-Featherweight as a fight between Fana and Burns is being mooted. They are ranked number 1 and 2 respectively by Ring Magazine.
Ward beats Abraham and Froch beats Johnson. I think Froch beats Ward by SD, or late stoppage. Froch won't let Ward clinch and do all his dirty-work on the inside, head-butting and all. Ward will try but will walk on to hard punches from Froch.
Froch beats Kessler in a rematch - Kessler hasn't been the same since Calzaghe took his soul. Kessler would be inactive for over a year if he doesn't take a tune up fight and we don't know to what extent this eye injury will hamper his boxing ability - he may never return, I hope he does though.
since ur all sitting on the fence:
1. Manny Pac
2. Sergio Martinez
3. JMM
4. Andre Ward
5. Nonito Donaire
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Amir Khan
8. Juan Ma Lopez
9. W. klitschko
10. Carl Froch
11. Brandon Rios
Rios? Even if he beats Acosta and/or Soto he's nowhere the top10. He needs to beat JMM to become the top Lightweight in order to get a P4P rating. Or move up in weight and become the top 140-pounder. Placing Rios at 11 is contradicting your list as JMM and Khan are both placed above him.
since ur all sitting on the fence:
1. Manny Pac
2. Sergio Martinez
3. JMM
4. Andre Ward
5. Nonito Donaire
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Amir Khan
8. Juan Ma Lopez
9. W. klitschko
10. Carl Froch
11. Brandon Rios
1) Manny
2) Floyd if fight before May
3) Sergio
4) Ward
5) Donaire
6) Wladimir
7) Alexander
8) winner of the bantam' tournament
9) Froch/Bute
10) Gamboa
I am assming that Floyd is gonna fight somebody within a year. If he doesn't, I cut him off from the list.
I think Ward is gonna win the Super Six/Kessler/Bute. If Froch/Abraham/etc wins it, got be that name number 4.
Wladimir if he faces Haye and wins. if Haye wins, put Haye up there. If they don't face each others, Wlamidir stays in position number 10, which is actually his spot right now.
Donaire is gonna beat Montiel IMO.
Alexander is my choice among the 140lbers.
I agree, I'm glad we might get a few clear cut champions in each division.
I think Ward will come out as the dominant SMW (I had Froch losing to Kessler didn't think it was that close and I believe Ward beats both)
Donaire as Bantamweight Champion
Still undecided in the Featherweight division either Lopez or John
And I think Hopkins will beat Pascal (but lose to Dawson) but I don't expect Hopkins to fight Dawson.
I'd hate it if Pac fought Shane. There's no reward in fighting Mosley. I'd rather Pacman fight a younger fighter, even Berto ffs!
Floyd is too inactive to be #2, I have him at #3 behind Sergio. I do think PBF is the best boxer in the world though and I believe he'd beat Pacman in a fight.
agreed.
floyd needs to get in there and kick ass. preferably martinez.
pac needs to fight berto, or marquez to shut him up.
then when theyre done, a pac-mayweather fight would be the final icing on the cake.
Froch lost to Kessler. Get over it.
You can't deny it was a close fight mate. Could have gone either way. If it was in Nottingham, Froch would have got the decision. If it was in the USA, in neutral territory, who knows?
at least pac is being active. if ur logic is right, i dont know how the hell floyd is still p4p #2
i didnt say floyd was number 2
I'd hate it if Pac fought Shane. There's no reward in fighting Mosley. I'd rather Pacman fight a younger fighter, even Berto ffs!
Floyd is too inactive to be #2, I have him at #3 behind Sergio. I do think PBF is the best boxer in the world though and I believe he'd beat Pacman in a fight.
if pac fights mosley they will bump him down. mark my words sergio will be number one if pac keeps cherry picking and floyd stays on vacation
at least pac is being active. if ur logic is right, i dont know how the hell floyd is still p4p #2
Who do you think will win the above tournaments and match-ups?
- I've got Donaire becoming Bantamweight Champion;
- Froch becoming Super-Middleweight Champion;
- Amir Khan becoming Junior-Welterweight Champion;
- Juanma Lopez should be the dominant Featherweight;
- and I think Hopkins will become LHW champ again (but I want Pascal to beat him).
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