7 day cutoff is reasonable, but year round testing is needed

He was drowsy, sir... feeling light on the head. shut up alt!

Probably becuz its on tape highlighting how he gets his physical and heads back to the gym following. He sure as hell didnt look sick after blood draws for the hatton and clottey fights. But they weren't testing for PEDs so I guess it wasnt as bad knowing u had no chance of getting exposed as a cheater. Pac never said 7 days. he said he agreed to his demands BUT koncz said they agreed to 7days! Stop spreading lies fukboy. He was drowsy, sir... feeling light on the head.

which leads us back to my original post, if its not year round testing, you can cheat and get away with it. You can cheat and get away with it regardless. But the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. If they can begin with training camp and then - when it makes sense fiscally - move on to something greater, that would be enormous.

Yeah the problem is that the medical field doesn't agree. Quite frankly, I'm not inclined to always agree with them because of what you mentioned as well. Sometimes when I'm watching TV, I can get up, go take a piss and come back and they're still listing the side effects for the latest wonder-drug. That said, as long as it's illegal, I'm all for an athlete's right to clean competition. which leads us back to my original post, if its not year round testing, you can cheat and get away with it.

yeah, its just a matter of opinion. i feel if an athelete can use other drugs/supplements to enhance themselves then steroids should be allowed too. i doubt there is any 100% natural pro athlete. Yeah the problem is that the medical field doesn't agree. Quite frankly, I'm not inclined to always agree with them because of what you mentioned as well. Sometimes when I'm watching TV, I can get up, go take a piss and come back and they're still listing the side effects for the latest wonder-drug. That said, as long as it's illegal, I'm all for an athlete's right to clean competition.

This sounds just like the argument I made with someone. yeah, its just a matter of opinion. i feel if an athelete can use other drugs/supplements to enhance themselves then steroids should be allowed too. i doubt there is any 100% natural pro athlete.

I never really go at it as a fact. Pretty much as my opinion...And, I would compare resumes, accomplishments, so and so... I never said fact(like you did) and then when was ask for a link I didn't provide it... everybody knew it wasn't facts but you pass it on like facts that's what i'm trying to say. so for you to act like some holier than thou is foolishness. it's pretty damn a regular activity for everyone in this forum to post things and act like it's a fact.

all pro athletes use some supplements to enhance performace. whether it be creatine, testosterone boosters or pro hormones or something else. the question is what supplements should be legal and what should not? what is the criteria. yes steroids are harmful, so is anything other drug. every drug commercial you see on tv ends with a long list of possible side effects even if use them correctly, but they are legal. the documentary cites that year 2 people died as a direct result of steroids compared to the thousands that die from alcohol and tobacco. yet they are legal and steroids is not. even though there are benefits from using steroids and none from alcohol/tobacco This sounds just like the argument I made with someone.

William Llewellyn? U just dont get it at all! U want me to read a book by a guy who profits from anabolics while he is feeding me how great of a performance enhancer they are? I have never disputed that they work. I think they are BS. And I know they are harmful. U can not solely direct the actions of anabolics to the muscles. There are consequences to that shyt man. Just becuz u like juicing dont make it a good idea. We watch sports to see who is the best when combining their natural talents with their strategies. Not who has the best PEDs. The fact that we are even having this argument is mind-boggling! all pro athletes use some supplements to enhance performace. whether it be creatine, testosterone boosters or pro hormones or something else. the question is what supplements should be legal and what should not? what is the criteria. yes steroids are harmful, so is anything other drug. every drug commercial you see on tv ends with a long list of possible side effects even if use them correctly, but they are legal. the documentary cites that year 2 people died as a direct result of steroids compared to the thousands that die from alcohol and tobacco. yet they are legal and steroids is not. even though there are benefits from using steroids and none from alcohol/tobacco

it's the same thing as when you talk about fighters of the past. you like to claim that this fighter is greater than this fighter and you pass it on like facts. did you provide even one link for your posts? it's all opinions...everybody does it in forums. i provided logical arguments and you can't dispute so your comeback is to look for quotes and links...gtfoh. I never really go at it as a fact. Pretty much as my opinion...And, I would compare resumes, accomplishments, so and so... I never said fact(like you did) and then when was ask for a link I didn't provide it...

it's the same thing as when you talk about fighters of the past. you like to claim that this fighter is greater than this fighter and you pass it on like facts. did you even provide even one link for your posts? it's all opinions...everybody does it in forums. i provided logical arguments and you can't dispute so your comeback is to look for quotes and links...gtfoh. HERE is a life line for u buddy. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.leshebdos.com/imgs/dynamique/articles/gros/rope-noose_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.leshebdos.com/article-352905-Harper-A-Small-Step-towards-the-Noose.html&usg=__l059YkxgCvfufCdVZqS5xB-CyHo=&h=757&w=580&sz=31&hl=en&start=0&sig2=nQiueehI9aTbdq3I1aI4sA&zoom=1&tbnid=pzC3NuCIjbJ8PM:&tbnh=156&tbnw=118&ei=-qv-TPbdIIKTnweh4oCaBw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drope%2Bnoose%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Den%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D680%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=259&vpy=93&dur=1914&hovh=257&hovw=196&tx=85&ty=136&oei=-qv-TPbdIIKTnweh4oCaBw&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0

Well you said this as if it was a fact. How do you know that is how it went down? Where did you get that from? How is that a fact? How is it a fact that Tygart was under their payroll? It sounds like an assumption to me. If it is a fact then you should be able to provide it with facts no? Even Bat had to come in here and laugh at your accusations as you can see here. So it wasn't just me who is questioning your "facts" I don't know, but I guess an argument can be made to really try to compromise to try and get the fight the done. Like Pac went from 30 to 24. I don't know... It wasn't, but nobody really came in here saying as if stuff was facts and then fail to provide a link when ask to. And, I actually liked the argument the TS(Guru) was making. I thought he made a lot of valid points. JMO. Of course you do, especially when you start claiming facts that nobody has heard of then yes you would need a link...I ask for links all the time when people states things that are fact and haven't heard any. And, when I state something as a fact I have a link to prove it as well. I tried to break it down as much as I could. Jealous? :gay: it's the same thing as when you talk about fighters of the past. you like to claim that this fighter is greater than this fighter and you pass it on like facts. did you provide even one link for your posts? it's all opinions...everybody does it in forums. i provided logical arguments and you can't dispute so your comeback is to look for quotes and links...gtfoh.

read the book Anabolics by William Llewellyn watch the documentary Bigger, Faster, Stronger if you want the answers William Llewellyn? U just dont get it at all! U want me to read a book by a guy who profits from anabolics while he is feeding me how great of a performance enhancer they are? I have never disputed that they work. I think they are BS. And I know they are harmful. U can not solely direct the actions of anabolics to the muscles. There are consequences to that shyt man. Just becuz u like juicing dont make it a good idea. We watch sports to see who is the best when combining their natural talents with their strategies. Not who has the best PEDs. The fact that we are even having this argument is mind-boggling!

What is the MEDICAL indication for ANABOLIC STEROIDS? What is the CORRECT method of use? When was the testimony about using ANABOLIC STEROIDS by a TEAM of DOCTORS? read the book Anabolics by William Llewellyn watch the documentary Bigger, Faster, Stronger if you want the answers

E-bully much! Go fuk urself clownboy. Its apparent that u have nothing to contribute. So fuk u and that video hombre. It is actually a good video though, you're missing out.

Is that suppose to be an insult? You act like if I rep it? :lol1: Anyways, so you can't watch videos? Then just STFU and to steal Stone line GTFO my forum. E-bully much! Go fuk urself clownboy. Its apparent that u have nothing to contribute. So fuk u and that video hombre.

I dnt need to watch a video to know that u dnt know shyt either. So NO I will not stfu fraud. Now if u wanna debate anything I posted then have at it. Otherwise, rot in that shyt town of yours(not the ppl, I got good friends from converse but the town is shytty) continue to be a nobody of the world! Is that suppose to be an insult? You act like if I rep it? :lol1: Anyways, so you can't watch videos? Then just STFU and to steal Stone line GTFO my forum.

read my posts again...what i said as fact is that floyd offered 14 days. Well you said this as if it was a fact. that's pretty obvious. floyd did not offer a 14-day cut-off for nothing. and it was not his idea either...he was advised by usada & tygart that 14 days is enoug to deter anybody from cheating coming into the fight. 7 days...that should seal the deal. How do you know that is how it went down? Where did you get that from? i don't need to prove anything...floyd offered 14 days while tygart was under their payroll and that's a fact. floyd think pac could be cheating and do you think he will offer something that could give pac a window to cheat? use your brain for once. How is that a fact? How is it a fact that Tygart was under their payroll? It sounds like an assumption to me. If it is a fact then you should be able to provide it with facts no? Even Bat had to come in here and laugh at your accusations as you can see here. This guys accusations are hilarious ..... outragerous. What will be next? So it wasn't just me who is questioning your "facts" now let me ask you...why do you think floyd offered a 14-day cutoff to somebody they thought was cheating? I don't know, but I guess an argument can be made to really try to compromise to try and get the fight the done. Like Pac went from 30 to 24. do you think floyd came up with that 14 days on his own? I don't know... don't act as if every argument here were supported by quotes or links. It wasn't, but nobody really came in here saying as if stuff was facts and then fail to provide a link when ask to. And, I actually liked the argument the TS(Guru) was making. I thought he made a lot of valid points. JMO. some things just need logical explanations...you don't need a link. Of course you do, especially when you start claiming facts that nobody has heard of then yes you would need a link...I ask for links all the time when people states things that are fact and haven't heard any. And, when I state something as a fact I have a link to prove it as well. now, feel free to answer my questions I tried to break it down as much as I could. and stop acting like some pom pom girl. Jealous? :gay:

look at this keyboard warrior talking tough. Only a loser talks tough on the internet. Just stfu and get on your plane you prick. Its not tough talk Sweetheart. I know facts seem to ruffle some of u idiots feathers. But in no way am i trying to be tough. BUT, I am bluntly debunking the BS u all try to perpetuate becuz of ur nationla pride, hate, or mancrush! So u can easily leave the thread sweetie if my words bite u too much. Otherwise, stfu and learn something, Precious. Gay or Homo will be in his reply

no he got paid in february:bottle: So then you're making sh*t up. but we already knew this.