@danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
@boxingfan8 According to @goldenboyboxing, Khan-Maidana isn't sold out. They made that clear on today's conference call for the undercard.
I'm a little surprised.
Not shocked though.
Did people really expect this to sell out?
Neither has a huge fanbase in the US, money's tighter than a ducks arse and it's close to Christmas.
If they can top JMM - Katsidis they'll have done well IMO
I agree and would love for every fight to be where it draws the best crowd, instead of small stale crowd, but I understand Bradley's decision to stay out of the Lou.
Bradley's not the hardest puncher, so the punches he lands count less, as far as live judging goes, he doesn't need a crowd making Alexander's punches count for even more. I understand him, a win is more important for him than whether there's a big crowd there, this is an important fight for his future.
no doubt ... but besides that urango stoppage alxeander doesnt seem to have all that much power to me either.
it seems to me what bradley really lacks is ability to finish, cause he consistently hurts his fighters in matches. he just never goes off the gameplan to go for the finish. all in all i think a part of it is hes a bad finisher. i dont think hes in any way a big hitter or anything , but his kayo record is deceiving if u ask me.
i guess it would all depend on how close the fight ends up being ... if its close then you woudl have to assume bradley woudl get a fairer shake in pontiac
oh ya i thought u meant alexander bradley ... but i still i think it shoulda been in the lou. ya there would def be some advantages for alexander, but hes a draw there. this is prize fighting and imo as long as the officials are chosen fairly fights should be where the people are going to go to see them. if this was in a casino id alomst understand cause of the site fee, but this venue makes no sense at all
the energy of the crowd and the fight atmosphere would be worth some of the bias imo. but thats me speaking as a fan. theres no doubt that pontiac mich is gonna be empty and quite. and in reality its bradley and his promotional teams fault hes never built a following. cause if he did theyd be able to do it in his backyard.
I agree and would love for every fight to be where it draws the best crowd, instead of small stale crowd, but I understand Bradley's decision to stay out of the Lou.
Bradley's not the hardest puncher, so the punches he lands count less, as far as live judging goes, he doesn't need a crowd making Alexander's punches count for even more. I understand him, a win is more important for him than whether there's a big crowd there, this is an important fight for his future.
I meant Khan vs. Bradley/Alexander after this fight.
I don't know, I can't really blame Bradley. It's definitely an advantage to fight an opponent in their hometown, especially if there's a large, passionate crowd backing them.
The Froch-Kessler fight could've gone either way (I thought Froch won), but since Kessler had the crowd roaring every time he threw a combination or landed a glancing blow, the judges and people think it was a clear Kessler win. The crowd influences the judging.
oh ya i thought u meant alexander bradley ... but i still i think it shoulda been in the lou. ya there would def be some advantages for alexander, but hes a draw there. this is prize fighting and imo as long as the officials are chosen fairly fights should be where the people are going to go to see them. if this was in a casino id alomst understand cause of the site fee, but this venue makes no sense at all
the energy of the crowd and the fight atmosphere would be worth some of the bias imo. but thats me speaking as a fan. theres no doubt that pontiac mich is gonna be empty and quite. and in reality its bradley and his promotional teams fault hes never built a following. cause if he did theyd be able to do it in his backyard.
i dunno about bradley alexander being sold out ... it def woulda been if it was in st louis. but for some ****ing reason its in pontiac mich. i think ur gonna be able to hear a mouse fart in there
it shoulda been in in st louis with the proper judges and ref
I meant Khan vs. Bradley/Alexander after this fight.
I don't know, I can't really blame Bradley. It's definitely an advantage to fight an opponent in their hometown, especially if there's a large, passionate crowd backing them.
The Froch-Kessler fight could've gone either way (I thought Froch won), but since Kessler had the crowd roaring every time he threw a combination or landed a glancing blow, the judges and people think it was a clear Kessler win. The crowd influences the judging.
Not only that, but HBO put up more money for the fight to be in the US. I remember a Dan Rafael article detailing the difference of the money HBO was giving for the fight live in the US, live from the UK, or tape delayed from the UK.
Who knew promoters would choose short term money over the long term :dunno:.
I certainly didn't expect Khan-Maidana to sell out. Ricky Hatton had a bigger following and his fights weren't that well attended when he started fighting in the US. We have short term memory, but just look at the crowds for the Collazo and Urango fights?
It was until the Castillo fight, where he had a solid attendance. This fight had similar hype to the Castillo fight, but I'm guessing Khan needs to prove himself against Maidana before getting the bandwagon fans back on. Watch a Bradley/Alexander fight be packed.
i dunno about bradley alexander being sold out ... it def woulda been if it was in st louis. but for some ****ing reason its in pontiac mich. i think ur gonna be able to hear a mouse fart in there
it shoulda been in in st louis with the proper judges and ref
this is deceiving because the Malignaggi fight was at the 4500 seat theater and this fight is at the 12k seat Mandalay Bay
i am not saying go for msg or yankee stadium. but the fight prob belongs in the ballroom. khan and maidana arent big names in the usa of yet. khan should have been fanning the flames that he seemed to have built in nyc.
the ballroom of msg would have been sold out, and there woulda actually been some fight atmosphere
this is deceiving because the Malignaggi fight was at the 4500 seat theater and this fight is at the 12k seat Mandalay Bay
yeah, khan-maidana never gunna sell out 12k
this is deceiving because the Malignaggi fight was at the 4500 seat theater and this fight is at the 12k seat Mandalay Bay
Yea, I was getting ready to say. Paulie is from NYC and couldn't even generate enough interest to have the bout fought in the main arena so it's no shock that a even less popular fighter in Maidana could possibly bring in more (unless we're talking about differences in ticket prices and/or what's offered on the undercard).
its cause the fights in vegas ... they dont care if its sold out anyways. they get the site fee. it made more sense for this fight to have been in nyc. khan paulie was sold out, and it was obvious khan had a lot of supporters. it could have been made into his backyard of sorts and build from there ... but vegas puts up more $$$ so its hard to compete or do whats best for the fighter and the sport
this is deceiving because the Malignaggi fight was at the 4500 seat theater and this fight is at the 12k seat Mandalay Bay
its cause the fights in vegas ... they dont care if its sold out anyways. they get the site fee. it made more sense for this fight to have been in nyc. khan paulie was sold out, and it was obvious khan had a lot of supporters. it could have been made into his backyard of sorts and build from there ... but vegas puts up more $$$ so its hard to compete or do whats best for the fighter and the sport
Not only that, but HBO put up more money for the fight to be in the US. I remember a Dan Rafael article detailing the difference of the money HBO was giving for the fight live in the US, live from the UK, or tape delayed from the UK.
Who knew promoters would choose short term money over the long term :dunno:.
I certainly didn't expect Khan-Maidana to sell out. Ricky Hatton had a bigger following and his fights weren't that well attended when he started fighting in the US. We have short term memory, but just look at the crowds for the Collazo and Urango fights?
It was until the Castillo fight, where he had a solid attendance. This fight had similar hype to the Castillo fight, but I'm guessing Khan needs to prove himself against Maidana before getting the bandwagon fans back on. Watch a Bradley/Alexander fight be packed.