http://www.ringtv.com/blog/2582/dougies_monday_mailbag/
"You claim that Pacquiao avoided certain fighters (Margarito after he beat Cotto and Mosley after he beat Margz) but I think you’re forgetting the dates of those fights and the weights that Manny fought at around those months.
Margarito fought Cotto in July of 2008. Mayweather was welterweight champ at the time. He was the guy who needed to call out the winner of that showdown of the Nos. 1 and 2 welterweight contenders, not Pacquiao, who had JUST stepped up from the 130-pound division to claim a lightweight belt by beating up David Diaz one month prior to Cotto-Margarito. (Go look it up on Boxrec.com if your memory needs more jogging.) Why would you expect a guy who just won a lightweight title to call out the winner of a high-profile welterweight bout?
Mosley destroyed Margarito in January of 2009, just ONE MONTH after Pacquiao shocked most of the boxing world by beating up on De La Hoya. Pacquiao jumped from 134½ pounds to weighing in at 142 pounds to fight De La Hoya in a welterweight bout. Why would you expect a guy who just had his first welterweight bout (and who barely weighed above the junior welterweight limit for it) to call out Mosley after the veteran knocked out Margarito? Nobody even viewed the De La Hoya fight as a legit welterweight bout because of faded star’s wilted “condition” as you pointed out.
The truth is, the jury was still out on whether Pacquiao could really hang at 147 pounds until his fight with Cotto. You can criticize Pacquiao for fighting Clottey but the Ghanaian was a top-5 contender at the time, and he’d never been decisively beaten until the Filipino hero smacked him around for 12 rounds.
You can definitely criticize him for fighting Margarito, but in the aftermath of the failed Mayweather negotiations, who would you have preferred him to fight? Margarito was undeserving but his size, controversy and Mexican heritage helped sell the event."
I don't like the catchweights but I have to admit that Pac is fighting challenging opponents and putting up great shows. Sure, bad stuff can be said about his opposition as it can be said about any boxer out there. Who else is Manny to fight? Mosley or Berto are the 2 obvious choices, besides them, it's a Cotto rematch. The fight has to be able to generate PPV numbers, only a big name brings that, Pac has just about beaten ALL the big names already.
When was the last time Manny fought a challenging opponent??
I don't like the catchweights but I have to admit that Pac is fighting challenging opponents and putting up great shows. Sure, bad stuff can be said about his opposition as it can be said about any boxer out there. Who else is Manny to fight? Mosley or Berto are the 2 obvious choices, besides them, it's a Cotto rematch. The fight has to be able to generate PPV numbers, only a big name brings that, Pac has just about beaten ALL the big names already.
no matter who pac fights, if its not pbf, there will be ppl who complain. shane is too old, berto is unproven, jmm is too small.
of the three, id like to see pac fight berto cuz i think he gives pac the most competitive fight. i understand that jmm is the most deserving, but its gonna be a one-sided beatdown. this is not the same pac that jmm couldnt beat twice before. this is a much improved pac at higher weight then jmm can fight at. does anyone wanting pac to fight jmm actually think jmm could beat shane or berto? at 147 jmm is out of his league.
I would actually want to see a Pac/Marquez III fight. Though again, Pac would be the heavy favorite, it would give some form of closure.
Although, i'm not sure if Pac would want to indirectly give MILLIONS to someone who constantly insults him.
Valid points but it would seem that you could tell me then why he choose Clottey over Moseley whem Mosley was the Champ and called him out at the gym and him and Roach said Mosley was to good and your no Oscar. Is that an admission of ducking?
Point #2 Since he has a hard time making 147 with his own admission then why doesnt he beat on those young and hungry 140 pound guys. He can easily make 140 and every one knows that. There is a reason why he has avaided those guys like Arums favorite excuse is there not PPV attractions. Marquez or Mosley were never PPV attractions but when your fighting the P4P king will sell anyway and you hush alot of doubters about not fighting black or so called slick fighters.
Marquez very curious why Manny wants no part of this trilogy. He would rather fight Mosley a guy coming off two losses in reality or at least two lack luster performances. He fought Morrales three times and there was no way that those fights were even as competitive as Marquez was in both fights. This here is blatanat ducking. Just be honest. The same that applies to Floyd not fighting Margarito, Cotto and now maybe PAC. Lets be truthful.
no matter who pac fights, if its not pbf, there will be ppl who complain. shane is too old, berto is unproven, jmm is too small.
of the three, id like to see pac fight berto cuz i think he gives pac the most competitive fight. i understand that jmm is the most deserving, but its gonna be a one-sided beatdown. this is not the same pac that jmm couldnt beat twice before. this is a much improved pac at higher weight then jmm can fight at. does anyone wanting pac to fight jmm actually think jmm could beat shane or berto? at 147 jmm is out of his league.
Lmao imdazed is mad don't mind the flomo. He's the only nonsensical one trying make sense but getting owned. Lmao quite funny.
Anyway, I am goin to stop here.. Obviously he doesnt know what he is talkin about.. Its better for me just to log off otherwise he might turn and change the topic to OST.
Like Dougie said, Pac will be criticized if he fights Mosley next year.
He will be criticized whoever he fights next year... Hell, he will still be criticized if he fights and beat floyd...
The haters will come out and claim he is ducking the Klitschko brothers. That's how it goes with the intelligence level of people claiming to be boxing fans.
Sure but why would that make your post any less idiotic? Is this what your debate has dwindled to? Whether I can tell you the topic? Like I couldn't read it? LOL, you make me laugh.
Idiotic?? When you dont even know what you are arguing about...
So it would be easy for you to tell me the topic, would it?
Sure but why would that make your post any less idiotic? Is this what your debate has dwindled to? Whether I can tell you the topic? Like I couldn't read it? LOL, you make me laugh.
So in other words, you dont know..
Your the one who butted in.. You're the one who said was non-sensical.. You replied to my post first. You initiated this argument. At least know what you are replying to first..So tell me if its really non-sensical then what was I implying..
I already quoted your post and stated my issue. Stop being butt-hurt and get over it.
Valid points but it would seem that you could tell me then why he choose Clottey over Moseley whem Mosley was the Champ and called him out at the gym and him and Roach said Mosley was to good and your no Oscar. Is that an admission of ducking?
Point #2 Since he has a hard time making 147 with his own admission then why doesnt he beat on those young and hungry 140 pound guys. He can easily make 140 and every one knows that. There is a reason why he has avaided those guys like Arums favorite excuse is there not PPV attractions. Marquez or Mosley were never PPV attractions but when your fighting the P4P king will sell anyway and you hush alot of doubters about not fighting black or so called slick fighters.
Marquez very curious why Manny wants no part of this trilogy. He would rather fight Mosley a guy coming off two losses in reality or at least two lack luster performances. He fought Morrales three times and there was no way that those fights were even as competitive as Marquez was in both fights. This here is blatanat ducking. Just be honest. The same that applies to Floyd not fighting Margarito, Cotto and now maybe PAC. Lets be truthful.
I don't need to quote what's on here. Stop playing dumb. Your post was pretty idiotic and now you're whining because I "changed the subject" and sh*t. Now I should tell you what the topic is like I can't read or something? Yeah, ok.
So in other words, you dont know..
Your the one who butted in.. You're the one who said was non-sensical.. You replied to my post first. You initiated this argument. At least know what you are replying to first..So tell me if its really non-sensical then what was I implying..
Ok, but tell me what is the topic first..
I don't need to quote what's on here. Stop playing dumb. Your post was pretty idiotic and now you're whining because I "changed the subject" and sh*t. Now I should tell you what the topic is like I can't read or something? Yeah, ok.
Before you claim its non-sensical, at least know what the topic was.. So you can understand my response in its entire context...
I understood the topic, read it, read your post. Now what?
LOl @ changing the subject. Ok, I changed the subject. And your post was nonsensical.
Before you claim its non-sensical, at least know what the topic was.. So you can understand my response in its entire context...