Am I wrong for suspecting Manny?

seen like Floyd win the mind games and manny on PED's battle already

wtf suspicion is free...you can have it all you want. just don't troll the forum with your endless peds threads.

your wrong for likeing cock f.aggot

I'm noticing that is anybody questions Manny, they get attacked. But is it not human to suspect a fighter who refuses drug testing in this era (The way Manny/Team Pac refused). I'm no PED expert, Dr or pro boxer. But I am a 25 year boxing fan, so i know a lil bit about the sport i love. I've watched Manny since the blonde streak days, been a fan from then on. But what I'm not a fan of is how the refusal went down, all the reasons/excuses just made me pause for a second. I'm told that "I don't know anything about how PEDs work" & "If Manny was juicing, he'd have gotten caught by now"... Well the first part is kinda true, but It has made me a lil curious on the suject so I looked into it. So can any of you just answer just 3 questions........ 1. What are the charicteristics of HGH, EPO......? 2. Does Manny display any of these charicteristics....? (Mind you, don't say Manny has always displayed this or that. Mind you, I've been watching him as long if not longer that most on NSB. And Manny has definatly kicked it up a few notches). 3. If the way Manny has evolved is not by the use of any PEDs, what else could it be....? We bash Barry Bonds for basically doing the same thing Manny is doing, is it a nationality thing? Or do you just hate Floyd sooo much that anything he says is dismissed and you just wanna see him beat regaurdless of how. Not a hate thread, just trying to get how him/Bob Arum refusing testing in the PED era gets a pass... I've never put anybody on ignore nor have I ever done the corny red k thing, but I have yet to get any solid answers. Just emmotional, I love manny, I hate Floyd posts... Anybody wanna be honest? Of course you are not wrong for suspecting Manny. If a cornerback in the NFL that started out weighing 180 to 185 pounds morphed into a 225 to 230 beast like Ray Lewis plenty of people watching the NFL would be skeptical.

manny is on steriods just look at his head.. it grew!! thats what steriods do to u, it makes your head grow so u can box better be faster and be stronger. its all in the head. Steroids make your testicles shrink as well. Better check Many's pine nuts. For all we know he might be shooting blanks in the bedroom.

manny is on steriods just look at his head.. it grew!! thats what steriods do to u, it makes your head grow so u can box better be faster and be stronger. its all in the head. steroiod=roidrage=floyd steroid makes you strong but it also makes you slow and not faster...pac can't knock clottey and margarito but he was very fast in their fight so basically what your saying is the opposite.

so which is it? is it cause pac has been fighting slow come forward fighters or is it the PEDs? my point stands, flomos don't know with with excuse to go with. It does not HAVE to be either or dumbazz.. Would it surprise you if it were all of the above. You idiots hang your hats on the dumbest shyt i swear, then backtrack and never even acknowlege when you get owned or when you're wrong. You need an ALT, this one is done for pal... Straight up Fee Fee bag

I agree it will never happen... too bad though. I have never really agreed with Teddy Atlas on much but I did agree with him when he said steroid use in Boxing is a lot more dangerous then say baseball. In baseball you make a ball go a little further and what not... in boxing you're hitting somebody in the head, you know what I mean? I rather see ****tier athletes but knowing they're 100% clean. Call me old school but knowing 100% that these guys are all clean then you can really compare them to the guys who came before them... the real greats of the sport. A bit of blood from everyone at random can bring about a lot clarity. I don't know if Pac is on steroids or he is not... No evidence no conviction, but I ask the BIGGEST pacman fans out there.. would you bet your life on that he is not? ...... or to the biggest Pac haters, would you bet your life he is? I'm sure your wouldn't.... Wlad Klitschko is one of my fav boxers but I would not bet anything on he is clean... I just don't know. I hope he is not but who knows what goes on behind close doors. Thats why Random blood test are needed, it lets us know if we're cheering for a farce... True. In Boxing, the use of drugs can kill another person, or cause serious injury. Vitali Klitschko was banned from the Olympics because he got caught juicing so I wouldn't be surprised that him and Wlad are on drugs right now...

Agreed. This will never happen though unfortunately. There is too much money because people want to see fast, explosive athletes. And you get fast and explosive athletes from drugs. Of course hard work and dedication and genetics play a big part, but without the drugs they won't be as fast and explosive.[/QUOTE may i know what kind of drugs (is it steroids or epo) will make an athlete fast and strong with regards to pac agreeing to random 7 day cutoff ost?.. WHwhat

Agreed. This will never happen though unfortunately. There is too much money because people want to see fast, explosive athletes. And you get fast and explosive athletes from drugs. Of course hard work and dedication and genetics play a big part, but without the drugs they won't be as fast and explosive. I agree it will never happen... too bad though. I have never really agreed with Teddy Atlas on much but I did agree with him when he said steroid use in Boxing is a lot more dangerous then say baseball. In baseball you make a ball go a little further and what not... in boxing you're hitting somebody in the head, you know what I mean? I rather see ****tier athletes but knowing they're 100% clean. Call me old school but knowing 100% that these guys are all clean then you can really compare them to the guys who came before them... the real greats of the sport. A bit of blood from everyone at random can bring about a lot clarity. I don't know if Pac is on steroids or he is not... No evidence no conviction, but I ask the BIGGEST pacman fans out there.. would you bet your life on that he is not? ...... or to the biggest Pac haters, would you bet your life he is? I'm sure your wouldn't.... Wlad Klitschko is one of my fav boxers but I would not bet anything on he is clean... I just don't know. I hope he is not but who knows what goes on behind close doors. Thats why Random blood test are needed, it lets us know if we're cheering for a farce...

You dumbazz, you fell for the sarcasm:pat: All Pac oponents HAVE been flat footed, slow and come forward fighters lol... He was being sarcastic dummy, and you agreed with him.... so which is it? is it cause pac has been fighting slow come forward fighters or is it the PEDs? my point stands, flomos don't know with with excuse to go with.

Watch the fight again please. not sure what you mean by "stronger". cotto is clearly physically stronger.

exactly. they can't make up their minds on which excuse to use to explain pac's success at the higher weights. typical flomos thought process: hm... should I lie about pac's resume today, or should I lie about pac's PED use?You dumbazz, you fell for the sarcasm:pat: All Pac oponents HAVE been flat footed, slow and come forward fighters lol... He was being sarcastic dummy, and you agreed with him....

pac is not stronger than cotto. pac has better stamina than cotto and pac was landing 3-4 shots to cotto's every 1-2 punches. Watch the fight again please.

Since the David Diaz fight in 2008, Pacquiao has not fight anybody threatening (all were drained or ****ty figthers to begin with like Margaracheato) EXCEPT Miguel Cotto. In the Cotto fight, when Pacquiao was STRONGER than Cotto, it really shocked me... pac is not stronger than cotto. pac has better stamina than cotto and pac was landing 3-4 shots to cotto's every 1-2 punches.

These flomos suspecting Pac taking PEDs to beat his opponents are the same idiots saying Pac only fights old, shot, weight drained, coming of from losses, flat footed, made to order, smart match making, etc...blah...blah...blah....are you fvcking serious? So this PED is for what? To slow down his opponents movements? exactly. they can't make up their minds on which excuse to use to explain pac's success at the higher weights. typical flomos thought process: hm... should I lie about pac's resume today, or should I lie about pac's PED use?

Since the David Diaz fight in 2008, Pacquiao has not fight anybody threatening (all were drained or ****ty figthers to begin with like Margaracheato) EXCEPT Miguel Cotto. In the Cotto fight, when Pacquiao was STRONGER than Cotto, it really shocked me...

I think everyone should take olympic style RANDOM testing before a fight, not just Pac or Mayweather. From golden gloves to the pros. If you have nothing to hide then you have no problem. If needles "scare" you or "make you weak" then try another pass time.... like ballet. The steroid use in ALL sports is getting REALLY old and is a slap in the face to the history of the sport. So you wanna lace up and punch somebody in the face? well then take RANDOM blood tests. Agreed. This will never happen though unfortunately. There is too much money because people want to see fast, explosive athletes. And you get fast and explosive athletes from drugs. Of course hard work and dedication and genetics play a big part, but without the drugs they won't be as fast and explosive.

I think everyone should take olympic style RANDOM testing before a fight, not just Pac or Mayweather. From golden gloves to the pros. If you have nothing to hide then you have no problem. If needles "scare" you or "make you weak" then try another pass time.... like ballet. The steroid use in ALL sports is getting REALLY old and is a slap in the face to the history of the sport. So you wanna lace up and punch somebody in the face? well then take RANDOM blood tests.

Yeah!!! You're so brilliant that you keep "exposing" my "flawed arguments" without even having to address them!!!! Your rebuttals are sooooooooo intellectually amazing that they're beyond anybodys ability to grasp them!!!! They are definitely not dumb as S*IT!!!! Definitely not!!!!:nono: already did addressed them in my previous post..you even tried to pull a fast one on me by sarcastically stating "peds" (ben johnson) instead of steroid which i clearly stated..