For me its the Miguel Cotto fight. It was then i was like OH SH!T MAN! I figured pac would win but not as good as he did that night. It was then i realized mayweather would NOT walk right through him or may not beat him for that matter.
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I go for the Morales 2 win. that was the make or break point of Pac's career. Everyone was saying that Pac's win over Barrera was a fluke and he was exposed by both JMM and Morales.
So much emotion was riding on that fight and boy, do i miss those moments when Pac was still fighting for pride, honor, glory and redemption.
the 1st Barrera fight definitely... man, i won't forget the crowd's reaction after it was stopped... some of the fans cried after the fight... the result was so unexpected, even the commentators seems still distraught before they close the show... it suppose to be a tune-up fight for Barrera, but it went the other way around...
it just went on and on from there...
Definitely 100% Barrera.
Barrera was top 3 P4P at the time, just went on a winning streak beating other P4P fighters such as Prince Naseem and Erik Morales. He was lineal world title holder....and Pacquiao destroyed him! Came out of no where and blew him away. First man to stop Barrera in almost 7 years. Massively impressive and that pushed him onto the P4P list and paved the way for fights with Morales, Marquez etc.
Hattons punch resistance had gone. He was throwing out sparring partners for hitting him to hard. Mallinaggi was featherfisted so unable to exploit that.
De La Hoya still had something left proved by his KO of Mayroga. he was past prime VS Floyd but not shot.
Far from shot, Oscar looked great in his fight with Floyd, and in his condition on that night could have beaten anybody in the fight game.
Oscar fought as good a fight as you can when Floyd was running the entire time, and Oscar even took one of the judges score cards. It was a close, split decision that could have gone either way.
Oscar never looked "past prime" to me, until he dropped to 147 to fight Pacquiao. He looked truly awful that night and was a shell of his former self. Oscar is one of those guys that could continue to fight at 154/160 and be competitive, even to this day. He just isn't hungry anymore.
barrera? like really? lol
yeah the first barrera fight. i don't think anyone really expected it at the time. barrera already had a name for himself and not that many people new who pacquiao was yet. i think that was a win that launched his career. this is just my opinion because at the time i was just a casual boxing fan.
I understand your point in that Hatton was coming off two wins, but the underlying fact is that he was paired up with Malignaggi as that was a safe fight. Paulie has no power and would not be able to hurt Hatton. Yes he did beat Lazcano, who is a journeyman fighter at best, but he still beat up Ricky pretty good. Those fights both proved how much Hatton had slid since losing to Floyd. He really was not the same fighter, and I think it may have been a mental thing, as he was greatly embarrassed at the hands of Floyd Mayweather. Mentally, I don't think he recovered, and it showed in his fight with Lazcano. The fight with Paulie is nothing to me, as Paulie's career was about at it's end and he is not a threat to anybody in the fight game who is above C level.
No one had ever KO/TKO'd Paulie up to that point (not even Cotto), no matter how safe it was. Not that it matters since that wasn't my point. Just saying... how is a guy winning 2 fights in a row, one by KO, considered 'coming off a KO loss'?
Did you consider Oscar as coming off a KO loss to Hopkins when he fought Floyd?
For me its the Miguel Cotto fight. It was then i was like OH SH!T MAN! I figured pac would win but not as good as he did that night. It was then i realized mayweather would NOT walk right through him or may not beat him for that matter.
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Personally I think it was Oscar because without the Oscar fight the average fan still wouldn't have known who he was and he wouldn't have gotten any of the fights that followed. If he had lost to Oscar he would be a nobody right now. Just being honest
How the hell does that statement make any sense? :thinking:
Hatton was coming off a win against Lazcano and a TKO win against Malignaggi, Cotto a win against Jennings and Clottey, and Margarito a lopsided win against Garcia.
By your 'logic', Floyd fought Mosley who was coming off a loss to Cotto, Marquez who was coming off a loss to Pacquiao, DLH coming off a KO loss to Hopkins, and Zab was literally coming off a loss to Baldomir.
And Oscar had to come down 1 weight class while Manny had to climb up 2. And Cotto weighed 146 against Clottey, only had to shed 1 lb against Manny. That was a pointless catchweight and had no effect on the outcome of the fight in the slightest.
I understand your point in that Hatton was coming off two wins, but the underlying fact is that he was paired up with Malignaggi as that was a safe fight. Paulie has no power and would not be able to hurt Hatton. Yes he did beat Lazcano, who is a journeyman fighter at best, but he still beat up Ricky pretty good. Those fights both proved how much Hatton had slid since losing to Floyd. He really was not the same fighter, and I think it may have been a mental thing, as he was greatly embarrassed at the hands of Floyd Mayweather. Mentally, I don't think he recovered, and it showed in his fight with Lazcano. The fight with Paulie is nothing to me, as Paulie's career was about at it's end and he is not a threat to anybody in the fight game who is above C level.
Miguel Cotto can not hold Barrera's jock strap. At no point in his career was he even close to the same level of greatness. Barrera was a great fighter, whereas Cotto was just a "good" fighter with a good promoter that took care of him, but when put to the test he was unable to deliver, ie beating Mosley by decision and being destroyed by Margarito and Pacquiao.
You need to take a look at Cotto's career and then look at Barrera's, which I followed both closely over the last 12 years, or in Cotto's case from the beginning, and you will see that Barrera has had a career far greater than Miguel Cotto.
He already explained he's only been following boxing for 2 years, obviously he doesn't know any better. The answer here is clearly Barrera. You can make a case for his run against much bigger opponents because it's unprecedented but in terms of quality of opponent and accomplishments, Marco gets the nod.
How the hell does that statement make any sense? :thinking:
Hatton was coming off a win against Lazcano and a TKO win against Malignaggi, Cotto a win against Jennings and Clottey, and Margarito a lopsided win against Garcia.
By your 'logic', Floyd fought Mosley who was coming off a loss to Cotto, Marquez who was coming off a loss to Pacquiao, DLH coming off a KO loss to Hopkins, and Zab was literally coming off a loss to Baldomir.
And Oscar had to come down 1 weight class while Manny had to climb up 2. And Cotto weighed 146 against Clottey, only had to shed 1 lb against Manny. That was a pointless catchweight and had no effect on the outcome of the fight in the slightest.
wow just wow
Hatton, Cotto and margarito were coming off KO losses.
How the hell does that statement make any sense? :thinking:
Hatton was coming off a win against Lazcano and a TKO win against Malignaggi, Cotto a win against Jennings and Clottey, and Margarito a lopsided win against Garcia.
By your 'logic', Floyd fought Mosley who was coming off a loss to Cotto, Marquez who was coming off a loss to Pacquiao, DLH coming off a KO loss to Hopkins, and Zab was literally coming off a loss to Baldomir.
And Oscar had to come down 1 weight class while Manny had to climb up 2. And Cotto weighed 146 against Clottey, only had to shed 1 lb against Manny. That was a pointless catchweight and had no effect on the outcome of the fight in the slightest.
barrera? like really? lol
Miguel Cotto can not hold Barrera's jock strap. At no point in his career was he even close to the same level of greatness. Barrera was a great fighter, whereas Cotto was just a "good" fighter with a good promoter that took care of him, but when put to the test he was unable to deliver, ie beating Mosley by decision and being destroyed by Margarito and Pacquiao.
You need to take a look at Cotto's career and then look at Barrera's, which I followed both closely over the last 12 years, or in Cotto's case from the beginning, and you will see that Barrera has had a career far greater than Miguel Cotto.