Berto vs. Khan at 145lbs.

Khan is just better, unless he gets Koed he wins. Steve fricking Forbes did aight with Berto.

I think berto has a little more god gifted talent than khan, but khan has a little better technique. im pickilng khan via decision EDIT: Khan and Ward are on the way to number 1 and 2 pound for pound IMO

Pretty even. 17 people think Berto wins, 18 think that Khan wins. Nobody thinks Berto can outbox Khan and win a decision....

fukk this fight. berto needs to fight WWs. Would you want to see this fight this time next year then after Khan clears out JWW? Khan vs. Berto 147? I think within 2 years, Khan would have cleared out JWW becoming it's Lineal Champ and would also have an alphabet title at WW (or unified). And be top 5 P4P (after Floyd, Manny, JMM and Sergio are gone).

I wouldn't mind seeing this fight.

fukk this fight. berto needs to fight WWs.

"oh here we go again, so here we go again with this"(Floyd v Brian Kenny). Maidana is THE TEST for Khan's chin. If he gets past Maidana without being knocked down, then Berto and co are in for a hek lot of trouble. If Maidana LANDS on Khan's chin, without getting knocked down, than yes. But with Khan's movement, do u really see Maidana landing a clean hard shot on Khan's chin? I don't. It is very possible Khan gets past Maidana without his chin being tested.

khan hasnt been knocked down,wobbled or even really touched at light welterweight. his chin wont get tested if they cant even get to it!. i think berto is over hyped and if khan beats maidana and alexender or bradley i think he can fill to welterweight ok still be very fast and more poweful. khan is the more skilled polished boxer at the moment. berto wont look so good agianst a fast guy who is taller,rangier,has better defence,can use a strong jab and uses fast combinations. berto seems very easy to hit,and doesnt seem to be that smart or that skilled,the illusion is he seems good,but agianst poor opposition.

"oh here we go again, so here we go again with this"(Floyd v Brian Kenny). Maidana is THE TEST for Khan's chin. If he gets past Maidana without being knocked down, then Berto and co are in for a hek lot of trouble. i dont know what your trying to say ... yes most definitely we need to gage where khans chin is. hes faced nothing but nonpunchers since the prescott loss. maidana is a puncher but hes crude, the likelihood of maidana actually chin checking khan is low cause he doesnt have the tools to get it done. and yes without knowing where its at exactly and assuming its at the same level when he was at 135lbs then berto stomps him out theres no question in my mind. cause berto does have the skills speed and reflexes and theres no doubt he will land. IF khan can take it id probably favor him via UD, but until we kno thats a BIG IF but that being said khan fighting maidana is a step in the right direction. and i am sure he will win, but hes not going to fight maidana even liek kotelnik did. hes going to fight maidana liek he himself fought kotelnik and i doubt maidana is going to be able to anything about it

berto by UD

Berto has looked good against nobodies (Hernandez) Berto has looked ok against past prime B-level boxers (Quintana) Berto looked bad against B-level boxers (Collazo) :thumbsdow: Khan has looked great against nobodies too (Salita, Fagan) Khan has looked good/very good against B-level boxers (Malignaggi, Kotelnik) If you read my OP, I did state that Berto is over-rated. I'm a big Khan fan, and I want him to beat Berto. I hope he proves me wrong and stops Berto. Khan got knocked down in the amateurs with headgear on, also has been knocked down by lighter punchers in the pros. In the amateurs he was a kid (16 y.o), at super-featherweight and lightweight. He had no punch resistance at those weights and had the completely wrong style, he was a KO waiting to happen. As a pro, at Lightweight, he was severely weight-drained and naive. Now he's more mature (physically and mentally), at the right weight so he's not in danger of draining himself, and has Ariza conditioning him. He has also learned from his KO loss and isn't reckless and naive, he's also now disciplined and can box without taking risks and getting hit. He has good movement and good defense, and a great jab. I think Khan's only in danger if he fight boxers with good power, very good speed and skills. i think this would be quite a good fight, not sure who wins, probably khan by UD i thought khan wanted the winner of the bradley - alexander fight though? Khan didn't say he's going to fight Berto. DiBella said fighting Khan in the future is a possibilty. It's just speculation, nothing concrete. Winner of Maidana-Khan (Khan imo) will fight the winner of Bradley-Alexander (Bradley imo) - Reasons why: - There would be a lot of money in the fight for both fighters and would probably be a PPV fight. - The public want to see it. - It would determine the best 140-pounder. - It would unify the WBA, WBO, and possibly WBC (if Alexander beats Bradley) belts and the winner would also claim the Ring Magazine belt (as the number 1 and 2 ranked fighters would be fighting). The winner would therefore become Lineal Champ at 140lbs and would help build their legacies. - The winner would definitely become top 6-8 Pound-for-Pound in the world. - A rematch clause would probably be included in the contracts, giving the loser a second chance (and another big pay-day). - It would potentially set the winner up for a mega fight. E.g. with Pacquiao (unless it's Khan), Mayweather Jr (Especially if it is Khan), or JMM. And other big fights and big paydays, e.g. Berto.

i think this would be quite a good fight, not sure who wins, probably khan by UD i thought khan wanted the winner of the bradley - alexander fight though?

"oh here we go again, so here we go again with this"(Floyd v Brian Kenny). Maidana is THE TEST for Khan's chin. If he gets past Maidana without being knocked down, then Berto and co are in for a hek lot of trouble. I agree... Maidana has knocked down most of his opponents and has a 90% KO ratio, if he can take a punch from Maidana and not get KO'd then the stick Khan gets about his chin is unwarranted. If Khan can survive the Maidana fight, even after getting decked, then that would prove that his punch resistance isn't bad, meaning he could probably take shots from Berto too at Welterweight. If that is the case, and Berto can't KO Khan, then Khan wins by UD. If Khan's chin improves and he develops a bit more muscle and fills out his body (thus gaining more power and better punch resistance), he could become P4P number 1 in the years to come. He already has speed, power, defense, intelligence, size and Roach in his corner.

Berto has trouble making 147, 145 he would be badly drained. Khan by KO. Berto weighed in at 145lbs exactly the other night... He can make 145 comfortably. DiBella is the one who suggested at catch-weight of 145lbs to possibly fight the winner of either Khan-Maidana or Bradley-Alexander (if they can't get Pac, Mosley or Cotto).

berto is exactly the kinda a fighter that would stop khan. a guy with speed and pop. i would guess it would end early in bertos favor. cause theres just no way berto wouldnt tag him on the chin. the only unknown is if khans chin has improved somewhat. it will never be great but his current batch of nonpunchers since the prescott loss hasnt answered that question. and in all reality maidana is probably not skilled enough to get a definitive answer from either ... but at this point imo beto by stoppage "oh here we go again, so here we go again with this"(Floyd v Brian Kenny). Maidana is THE TEST for Khan's chin. If he gets past Maidana without being knocked down, then Berto and co are in for a hek lot of trouble.

I would give it to Berto by KO cuz he's faster than the average Khan opponent. And I think his power is good enough when combined with his speed that he would stop Khan. But personally I would put Berto's Power rating at about B+ and Khan's more along the lines of B- or C+. Khan's not solid enough in the body for his power to increase when he moves up in weight. His power may be a little underrated, from what I've seen, not by much. Also when it comes to defense, I would have Khan around an A- maybe a B+ and Berto's around a B- maybe C+. Khan's foot movement and upper body speed along with the fact he doesn't really take chances makes him a solid defensive fighter, while Berto's defense, at least as of late, seems like it's really lacking.

berto is exactly the kinda a fighter that would stop khan. a guy with speed and pop. i would guess it would end early in bertos favor. cause theres just no way berto wouldnt tag him on the chin. the only unknown is if khans chin has improved somewhat. it will never be great but his current batch of nonpunchers since the prescott loss hasnt answered that question. and in all reality maidana is probably not skilled enough to get a definitive answer from either ... but at this point imo beto by stoppage

Berto by late KO

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Nice analysis, but I actually think Khan wins this, hes the taller guy and will use that to his advantage, his jab is better also.. which would be key for Khan to win. He also has far superior handspeed and better footwork, UD Khan, he will dance around him all night and frustrate. Don't be fooled, Berto doesn't hit that hard and Khan takes a better punch at the higher weights, in a few fights I expect the glass chin comments to be gone. Purely because Berto gasses out after the mid rounds im giving it to Khan by T/KO Hmmmm. I see. I've only seen Berto fight 3 times so I guess I don't know that much at all about him. I have noticed his stamina problems though. Reginald, I also agree that in a few fights, by the time he's at Welterweight, his glass-chin reputation would have gone. No doubt he'll take a better punch at Welter. Khan's power is under-rated so perhaps he can stop Berto. If he sets him up with his jab and lands those right straights of his, Berto's in trouble. But I can't help but think that Khan is still a bit vulnerable to somebody with good speed and good power that has skill (like Berto). Bradley has skill and speed but no power. Alexander has power and speed but not much skill compared to Khan. Ortiz is probably Khan's biggest threat at JWW imo.