Jose Luis Castillo (Prime) vs. JMM @ 135

If JMM boxes, he wins. If he chooses to stand and bang, Castillo in his prime stops him.

Castillo was unstoppable at 135...well, before Corrales. Oh yeah, sheer horror. Dudes were having trouble getting to the final bell against Castillo. Definitely, sad that Castillo couldn't make the weight for the rematch, though. I still remember Corrales in interviews "THAT IS COMPLETELY UNPROFESSIONAL..."

I don't disagree with your stance at all. I'm just glad you didn't use Mayweather not stopping Castillo as your reasoning. Castillo was unstoppable at 135...well, before Corrales.

Honestly...D. I don't give Margquez a snowball's chance in hell of stopping Castillo. I don't disagree with your stance at all. I'm just glad you didn't use Mayweather not stopping Castillo as your reasoning.

Castillo was so good in his prime at lightweight. Much as I love JMM, and this is no definite, I think I'm going wtih Castillo.

I see what you're saying eaner, we just have differing views. I'm not stating that Marquez would KO Castillo, I was simply stating that it's not "crazy" to think that he could. Personally, I don't think Marquez would KO Castillo, but I still leave that possibility open. Honestly...D. I don't give Margquez a snowball's chance in hell of stopping Castillo.

no I am basing it off of the shellacking JLC took against Chico who at 135 was one of the hardest punchers in the sport. He landed bombs on JLC and still could not get him off his feet I see what you're saying eaner, we just have differing views. I'm not stating that Marquez would KO Castillo, I was simply stating that it's not "crazy" to think that he could. Personally, I don't think Marquez would KO Castillo, but I still leave that possibility open.

Very mouthwatering dream match up, Slight edge to Castillo IMO because he was an intelligent pressure fighter, He doesnt just walk in a straight line and take punches, People that beat Castillo in his prime have to be good or even great technically. JMM while technically good might not be big enough to get castillo off him, I see castillo winning a UD but he would know he has been in a fight.

Nobody oozed more machismo than Razor Ramon, you crazy? That toothpick was serious. But I'm glad you watched. Corrales was a blood and guts warrior but he was a very, very capable boxer who at one point was rated higher than Floyd Mayweather pound for pound. And his war against Castillo was epic not because of their heart but because of their skill. It was breathtaking - the combos, fluidity..everything. Especially when it ended up in an opponents eye before the bell. Definitely dude. Very capable boxer I do agree with. That's one thing about Chico boxing fans have to love, the dude would fight everyone. If he could, he'd have probably fought on the undercard and the main event (minus Castillo I, of course).

no I am basing it off of the shellacking JLC took against Chico who at 135 was one of the hardest punchers in the sport. He landed bombs on JLC and still could not get him off his feet 100% agree. In terms of power, Marquez couldn't hold Corrales' jockstrap.

You're absolutely right on Chico's unreal power. The bold is exactly what I meant. The guy posted that it's "crazy" to think JMM would KO Castillo and I don't think it's irrational at all. We've seen guys with tough beards get ko'd (recently PWill and Margarito by Mosley). I just happen to find that just off Marquez's counter-punching ability, it would make him less susceptible than Castillo in exchanges. To make it as if just because Mayweather doesn't ko somebody means nobody else can actually sounds a bit off to me, especially considering Mayweather uses an accumulation to stop his opponents if he does. no I am basing it off of the shellacking JLC took against Chico who at 135 was one of the hardest punchers in the sport. He landed bombs on JLC and still could not get him off his feet

I saw what you meant in the Casamayor rematch. It's terrible though because Chico's jab could be effective but he would abandon it. Don't get me wrong, I exaggerated by making that statement, but I still feel Corrales was a blood and guts warrior, a real throwback type fighter, not so much a boxer. For example, most guys who can box that start moving up to higher weight classes don't necessarily depend on their "devastating power" that reigned over smaller weights but rather shifted toward their boxing ability to win fights. I think we both can agree that Corrales oozed more machismo than Razor Ramon, though. Nobody oozed more machismo than Razor Ramon, you crazy? That toothpick was serious. But I'm glad you watched. Corrales was a blood and guts warrior but he was a very, very capable boxer who at one point was rated higher than Floyd Mayweather pound for pound. And his war against Castillo was epic not because of their heart but because of their skill. It was breathtaking - the combos, fluidity..everything.

but it took someone with unreal power at 135 in Chico a full ten rounds of clobbering JLC to stop him and even then JLC never left his feet while I never say never I can't see JMM stopping him even after an accumulation You're absolutely right on Chico's unreal power. The bold is exactly what I meant. The guy posted that it's "crazy" to think JMM would KO Castillo and I don't think it's irrational at all. We've seen guys with tough beards get ko'd (recently PWill and Margarito by Mosley). I just happen to find that just off Marquez's counter-punching ability, it would make him less susceptible than Castillo in exchanges. To make it as if just because Mayweather doesn't ko somebody means nobody else can actually sounds a bit off to me, especially considering Mayweather uses an accumulation to stop his opponents if he does.

I see what you're saying...again, watch those fights, bud. Casamayor II and the first Castillo bout. I saw what you meant in the Casamayor rematch. It's terrible though because Chico's jab could be effective but he would abandon it. Don't get me wrong, I exaggerated by making that statement, but I still feel Corrales was a blood and guts warrior, a real throwback type fighter, not so much a boxer. For example, most guys who can box that start moving up to higher weight classes don't necessarily depend on their "devastating power" that reigned over smaller weights but rather shifted toward their boxing ability to win fights. I think we both can agree that Corrales oozed more machismo than Razor Ramon, though.

excellent matchup. JMM by UD...dominating most of the fight, but gettin knocked down once or twice...much like his Pacquiao fights. Castillo could earn a split decision, too..from knock downs. VERY close and interesting matchup.

Castillo by UD. Marquez's chin and heart would bring him to the score cards, but I could see him tasting the canvas at least once.

JMM is only a year younger than Casa. Diaz wasn't "finished" in that first fight, he fought well in spots and only lost once to Campbell. Katsidis is a beast, so shove your "meh" up your ass. Castillo in his prime was a massive lw, I don't know who to pick in this fight because Castillo was a very skilled guy. Yet some people make it sound like he was some crude slugger or something. Pickem fight. i agree!! Castillo was a very skilled pressure fighter and was as durable and tough as any fighter could be in their prime Marquez has been my favorite fighter for the last ten years plus but i dont know if he could beat a prime Castillo. I would bet Marquez hits the deck in a match against Castillo and with that in mind the; fight would be competitive and make it to the score cards that could go either way for Marquez or Castillo Marquez recent run at lightweight has been impressive but I would not favor any of those guys against a prime castillo especially the version of casamayor Marquez fought

here's why a prime (the one that beat Floyd in their 1st fight)Castillo stops or KO's Marquez. #1 size-Castillo was a big ****in 135lbs #2 durability- the guy was an iron tank with a Magarito like chin #3 underated skills- You think someone with no skills, foot work, slipping, ducking , inside fight game and versatility of offense(great jab, great Uppercut, overhand right, killer body shots) could have put an ass whooping on lil Floyd? #4 Marquez's warrior heart would have led him down the warpath with a relentless Castillo forcing a brutal inside war that Marquez no shape no how survives. Great fight but Marquez gets brutally TKO'd

I think Castillo catches Juan with a left hook he can't get up from.

at 135 I think JLC wins a close decision the guy was a beast at lightweight