katsidis? he's basically a one arm come forward brawler, lost already to juan diaz and casamayor, who JMM beat, why fight this guy? definitely nothing slick here.
juan diaz? feather fisted brawler, nothing slick here. got exposed by nate campbell. why fight him again after he lost to malignaggi? shouldn't jmm tried to fight paulie instead? haters are dissing pac for rematching EM instead of Raheem, why give JMM a pass for this?
casamayor? great boxer in his prime, but at 38? lol.
barrera? past prime, a very green pac already destroyed him years before. isn't this jmm's logic?
and floyd? we all know what happened when he faced a slick boxer.
katsidis? he's basically a one arm come forward brawler, lost already to juan diaz and casamayor, who JMM beat, why fight this guy? definitely nothing slick here.
juan diaz? feather fisted brawler, nothing slick here. got exposed by nate campbell. why fight him again after he lost to malignaggi? shouldn't jmm tried to fight paulie instead? haters are dissing pac for rematching EM instead of Raheem, why give JMM a pass for this?
casamayor? great boxer in his prime, but at 38? lol.
barrera? past prime, a very green pac already destroyed him years before. isn't this jmm's logic?
and floyd? we all know what happened when he faced a slick boxer.
also none of them are african americans!!!! (note: casamayor is cuban american)
where's the link to jmm rejecting the 3rd rematch right after the second fight? If true, pretty interesting.. seeing that's probaby right before pac went on to bigger and better things, leaving jmm chasing his tail.. straight into floyd's fist. Man, jmm is needs a better manager.
so, out of all these so called shot fighters that Pacquiao hand-picked...why doesn't JMM fight one of them first and prove how shot they are and how much better of a fighter he is.... I say start with Cotto first...
I've got respect for Marquez & i hope he gets the fight, but he's **** talkin is gettin a little out of hand.
Pac had already been through a borderline prime MAB. He pretty much cherry picked him in order to get him on the resume & if you believe the talk he's thinkin of doing the same with El Terrible.
Works both ways...
W Casamayor - #1 Lightweight, never been stopped before getting stopped by Marquez.
38 yr old fighter ... SHOT fighter.
W Diaz - Top 3 Lightweight, never been stopped before getting stopped by Marquez. Had just beaten Katsidis in a war.
Overrated ... feather-fisted. Got rocked by a feather-fisted malignaggi.
L Mayweather - Undefeated in 39 fights going in, fighting at 147, was the bigger man and had a difficult style which Arum has been ducking.
No comment.
W Katsidis - Top 3 Lightweight, just came off an impressive TKO win over Kevin Mitchell.
Really? ... he got beat by casamayor, diaz and marquez (the GBP round robin lol)
JMM is a great fighter ... but I'm just playing the game you flomos play.
W Casamayor - #1 Lightweight, never been stopped before getting stopped by Marquez.
W Diaz - Top 3 Lightweight, never been stopped before getting stopped by Marquez. Had just beaten Katsidis in a war.
L Mayweather - Undefeated in 39 fights going in, fighting at 147, was the bigger man and had a difficult style which Arum has been ducking.
W Katsidis - Top 3 Lightweight, just came off an impressive TKO win over Kevin Mitchell.
vs
W Margarito - Already had been stopped by Mosley. Not ranked in the top 10 at WW or JMW. TKO loss to Mosley and unimpressive win against a journeyman.
W Clottey - Never won a big fight outside of a TD against Judah and a decision over a fat Corrales. Even managed to lose against the "bum" Baldomir.
W Cotto - Was stopped already by Margarito. Unimpressive win against Clottey, looked vulnerable.
W Hatton - Stopped by Mayweather 2 years prior.
but..but....
Cotto/Tony/Clottey/Hatton would rape Diaz/Katsidis/Casa
or
Cotto/Tony/Clottey/Hatton rapes JMM. (maybe hatton is a tossup).
margarito aint **** so i believe most top 140 fighters can beat him like amir alexander and bradley i also believe they can beat cotto and as far as 135 i do believe marquez can also beat margarito and even cotto.
skillwise katsidis and diaz are better thyan margarito almost everybody is better than margarito skillwise but those 2 fighters can't compare to cotto skillwise but cotto career is in limbo he's noot the same fighter he was before the margo fight and before the manny fight everyone was sayin he was damaged goods and that he was a shell of himself where as katsidis was the top fighter in his division outside of marquez and had the most buzz about him at the 135 division so cotto may be the better boxer but he is looked at as damaged goods where as katsidis if not for marquez is looked at as the man of the divison and has been lookin good in his recent fights where as miguel looked okay
dude please think about this again. better yet, make a poll.
margarito aint **** so i believe most top 140 fighters can beat him like amir alexander and bradley i also believe they can beat cotto and as far as 135 i do believe marquez can also beat margarito and even cotto.
skillwise katsidis and diaz are better thyan margarito almost everybody is better than margarito skillwise but those 2 fighters can't compare to cotto skillwise but cotto career is in limbo he's noot the same fighter he was before the margo fight and before the manny fight everyone was sayin he was damaged goods and that he was a shell of himself where as katsidis was the top fighter in his division outside of marquez and had the most buzz about him at the 135 division so cotto may be the better boxer but he is looked at as damaged goods where as katsidis if not for marquez is looked at as the man of the divison and has been lookin good in his recent fights where as miguel looked okay
So if its pac you don't care about the size ... but if its jmm, you want to downsize them for him so that he has a chance of winning?
Skillwise, does katsidis and diaz even compare to cotto and margarito?
If he tries to **** on somebody, he might as well look at his resume.
I'm not sure ... but can you name a fighter from 135-140 who can beat cotto and margarito?
margarito aint **** so i believe most top 140 fighters can beat him like amir alexander and bradley i also believe they can beat cotto and as far as 135 i do believe marquez can also beat margarito and even cotto.
skillwise katsidis and diaz are better thyan margarito almost everybody is better than margarito skillwise but those 2 fighters can't compare to cotto skillwise but cotto career is in limbo he's noot the same fighter he was before the margo fight and before the manny fight everyone was sayin he was damaged goods and that he was a shell of himself where as katsidis was the top fighter in his division outside of marquez and had the most buzz about him at the 135 division so cotto may be the better boxer but he is looked at as damaged goods where as katsidis if not for marquez is looked at as the man of the divison and has been lookin good in his recent fights where as miguel looked okay
Skillwise, does katsidis and diaz even compare to cotto and margarito?
If he tries to **** on somebody, he might as well look at his resume.
I'm not sure ... but can you name a fighter from 135-140 who can beat cotto and margarito?
cotto rapes everyone at 140 below. yep including marquez. man i dont even want to think about margarito at 150!
If anybody can say it it's JMM. Funny how keyboard warriors and people who have never stepped in the ring to fight(boxing journalists) say it and their word is taken like it's gold. But no get somebody who actually is legit and fights for a living to say something and here come the Pac huggers. I like Pac, he is a tremendous fighter but what JMM said was the truth. I would say he was wrong but Pac has recently fought the same kind of fighter and the selling point has been "Oh the guy is bigger", so what!? If the opponent lacks the technical skill to win who cares if he is bigger or not. I'm not hating on Pac, like I said the guy is a phenom, i've thought so since he whooped Ledwaba and took the title on 10 days notice, but i'm also not blind. Arum is good at fooling a lot of the boxing public, but the catchweight title fight crap is garbage, especially this last fight IMO.
Skillwise, does katsidis and diaz even compare to cotto and margarito?
If he tries to **** on somebody, he might as well look at his resume.
I'm not sure ... but can you name a fighter from 135-140 who can beat cotto and margarito?
If anybody can say it it's JMM. Funny how keyboard warriors and people who have never stepped in the ring to fight(boxing journalists) say it and their word is taken like it's gold. But no get somebody who actually is legit and fights for a living to say something and here come the Pac huggers. I like Pac, he is a tremendous fighter but what JMM said was the truth. I would say he was wrong but Pac has recently fought the same kind of fighter and the selling point has been "Oh the guy is bigger", so what!? If the opponent lacks the technical skill to win who cares if he is bigger or not. I'm not hating on Pac, like I said the guy is a phenom, i've thought so since he whooped Ledwaba and took the title on 10 days notice, but i'm also not blind. Arum is good at fooling a lot of the boxing public, but the catchweight title fight crap is garbage, especially this last fight IMO.
Dude. Marquez is just trying to get 1 last payday. He is talking sh1t in the hopes of landing a fight with Pac.
It's useless to break down his "logic" because it isn't logic, it's just sh1t talking.
then you can just call my thread 'sh1tting on jmm's last fights' and we're cool :)
Which fight did he ask 50/50 for?
This thread http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=346542
And if you remember the first match, pac wanted an immediate rematch ... but jmm wanted none of it and fought chris john.
Did pac **** talk his way to force a rematch? Nope.
Which fight did he ask 50/50 for?
the 3rd fight w/ pac. i think after the pac-cotto fight. he wanted 50/50 plus OST. unreal for him to demand both, he isnt a draw on the level of pac and floyd, and he knows absolutely well the OST was the reason the pac-may fight fell through.
It's not whining when he has a legitimate reason behind it. Come on man he wants to settle it in the ring not exactly the act of a cry baby.
great post bro he does have a reason theses guys are blind i see you are not biased
really laughable for jmm to diss pac's opponents. he really should just be contented making some noise about how he felt about his fights with manny, coz this doing sh1t comes back at him. he didn't' really have the greatest competition either, except floyd...which he lost EVERY ROUND.floyd would ko pac....they dont want none.
which makes him more of a whining b1tch. i like him as a fighter, one of the greatest technicians. but i never saw a great fighter whine so much.
It's not whining when he has a legitimate reason behind it. Come on man he wants to settle it in the ring not exactly the act of a cry baby.
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