What would Manny's haters say about the following guys if Manny were to fight and beat them to discredit the wins?
Martinez (@154)
Marquez (@140)
Mayweather (@147)
Berto (@147)
Bradley/Maidana/Khan/Alexander (@140 or slightly higher catch weight)
Mosley (147)
Anyone else you want to say
(Disclaimer: Yes I am a Pacquiao fan, but even though this thread relates to Pacquiao, haters of every popular fighter pick apart the achievements of the fighters no matter what they do. So this isn't so much a thread about whether Pac would fight or beat these guys, but assuming he did, what would his hardcore haters say to discount the win?)
Thats my point, the irrational haters of any fighter will degrade all opposition, it gets to the point that if you listen to only haters there has never been a good fighter ever, because not onlydo they suck, but everyone who they fought and beat sucks, and by extension all of their competitions competition sucks.
Seriously...Manny is already an ATG. All he has to do is beat Floyd, then he'll be an ATG(10). If he beats Martínez it will be hard to disregard him in the top 3.
My take would be
Martinez - Old, or fight should have been at 160
Marquez - Old/shop worn, or Marquez really won
Mayweather - Rusty or Manny was on drugs (whether he was test or not)
Berto - Unproven or small welter tailor made for Pac
Bradley - Style made for Pac
Khan - Roach wasn't able to train him
Alexander - Unproven hot/cold fighter
Maidana - untrained brawler
Mosley - old
Martinez-Drained, Overrated
Marquez-Old, fat, Mayweather's leftovers
Mayweather-Old, would have killed Many a year ago
Berto-Never any good, brawler with no defense, never beat anyone
Sucks/Sucks/Glass Chin/Sucks, lost to a Euro-bum
Mosley-Old, Floyd leftovers
Even if he beat all of them, ever single one, Flomo's would just complain that Leonard or Robinson wasn't around and all the good African Americans are playing basketball.