Don't get me wrong here Marquez is a really good fighter and has done great things for the sport of boxing but lets be honest here Manny isn't the same boxer who fought Marquez a few years back, he was put down by Mayweather so my guess is Pacquiao will probably knock him out I mean seriously look at Pac's recent track record. He's either knocking em out or breaking faces and lets not to mention if Mayweather was too fast for Marquez just imagine what Pacquiao would do with his speed and high volume of punching... The one thing I don't like about things already in the media is how Freddie wants the fight to be at 147... Come on Freddie the man couldn't get that high fighting Mayweather and it would be an uneven advantage.
Marquez's best weight class is at 135, Pacquiao at 147. Pac going down to 135 to fight JMM is not the most fair compromise to get an even playing field. It should be somewhere in the middle like 141 which is in the welterweight division.
The last time they fought, JMM was at his peak; Pac was not. Hence, the close fight. If a third fight happens next year, I don't think JMM will have any chance at all and will be his last.
JMM have agreed to fight Pac @ 147.
Marquez has no chance of winning at 147 but the guy is so desperate to have his big payday. Manny is a complete fighter now and at the peak of his career, he was different since he fought JMM. Pac's right hand has developed and a became lethal fist.The skills of Morales is still the same and obviously shows that he is slowing down.
Now FLOMOS are crying why JMM will fight Pac at 147 , take it easy Pac next opponent will be known before the year ends.
Pac could go at 140.
I think the reason why this will be hard to make is because of the GBP vs Top Rank rivalry.
Until JMM figures out how to stay on his feet for the entire 12 rounds against Pacquiao, he'll never win on the cards.
That's just the way it is.
Marquez's shirt should've said, "I would've won twice against Pacquiao if I hadn't kissed the canvas 4 times"
JMM have agreed to fight Pac @ 147.
Marquez has no chance of winning at 147 but the guy is so desperate to have his big payday. Manny is a complete fighter now and at the peak of his career, he was different since he fought JMM. Pac's right hand has developed and a became lethal fist.The skills of Morales is still the same and obviously shows that he is slowing down.
Now FLOMOS are crying why JMM will fight Pac at 147 , take it easy Pac next opponent will be known before the year ends.
I also respect JMM for his skills, but that t-shirt thing will cost/hurt him and GBP when it comes to a future Pacquiao fight, that's foo shizzle...
nah......
money talks.
in the end the money will decide who pac fights next.
besides that's the good kind of fighters talking crap.
none of that bernard hopkins , floyd mayweather , david haye bull****.
he thinks he won? fair enough.
he wants to challenge pac? go ahead.
nah i didn't miss it. just didn't bring it up. :lol1:
not having to cut weight helps. that's why i want it 135. give jmm as much help as possible.
make it sporting.
i know pac has improved , i just don't want to take away too much from jmm giving pac those tough fights.
he got a good win last night. i'll be nice to him today.
i got 364 days in the year to **** on him. i'll give him 1 day. :D
I also respect JMM for his skills, but that t-shirt thing will cost/hurt him and GBP when it comes to a future Pacquiao fight, that's foo shizzle...
You know what you missed tua? Pacman doesn't drain himself anymore like he use to when he was still fighting at 130. Weigh-in day, he's around 128 1/2 to 129 3/4, fight night, he's 144 or more, a 15 pound gain overnight, just like what Margo did. Marquez survived those heavy blows before, he even hurt Pacquiao more than a couple of times, but not this time. Pac will eat Marquez' counters for breakfast and he will put Marquez down for good this time...
nah i didn't miss it. just didn't bring it up. :lol1:
not having to cut weight helps. that's why i want it 135. give jmm as much help as possible.
make it sporting.
i know pac has improved , i just don't want to take away too much from jmm giving pac those tough fights.
he got a good win last night. i'll be nice to him today.
i got 364 days in the year to **** on him. i'll give him 1 day. :D
seasoned - pac had 50 fights under his belt at the time of the rematch
confident - pac has been confident since forever. you don't take on marco antonio barrera in texas or take a championship fight on 2 weeks notice against ledwaba without confidence.
much better right hand - they started working on the right hand since 4 years earlier after the 1st fight. he showcased it against velazquez and marquez 3 years earlier.
You know what you missed tua? Pacman doesn't drain himself anymore like he use to when he was still fighting at 130. Weigh-in day, he's around 128 1/2 to 129 3/4, fight night, he's 144 or more, a 15 pound gain overnight, just like what Margo did. Marquez survived those heavy blows before, he even hurt Pacquiao more than a couple of times, but not this time. Pac will eat Marquez' counters for breakfast and he will put Marquez down for good this time...
The Pacquiao NOW will Destroy Marquez if they ever fight in the future. Maybe Marquez just wants to retire and move to the recreational sector with a big cash on the pocket thats why he keeps chasing Pacquiao? :Lol Pacquiao is on the different level now than Marquez in terms of skill and physical attributes. Those who say otherwise are the Pacquiao hater's who can't live to the fact that the no. 1 Pound for Pound Boxer is not even American or someone in the latin American region.
If Katsidis can knock JMM down then I can see Pac keeping him down. JMM isn't the same fighter anymore either. He looked a lot easier to hit tonight against katsidis.
What I find funny is its JMM who keeps chasing after Pac but Pac has to come down in weight? LOL if you want to fight someone that bad then go up to their weight class. Say what ever you people want but Pacquaio is a Welterweight fighter now. He has NO OBLIGATION to make it easier for JMM.
I would make it simple, If JMM wants 50/50 payday, then fight Manny at welter, if he wants it at 140 or 142 then take a lesser purse.
I call that fair.
This still doesn't change the fact that the ONLY fight I really want to see is against Mayweather.
For me,
1. Berto @ 147
2. Winner of Bradley alexander at 140
3. sergio at 160
Pac aint fighting marquez at 135 & probably will never fight anybody below 147. He's too successful to be told what to do & his leeches too afraid to tell him to do the right thing. Im dead set against mosley too old & washed up & marquez (too sadistic).
serg is too damn big. if he's gonna fight serg let it be his retirement. win or lose , go out in a blaze of glory.
imagine a former flyweight champ retiring after fighting the middleweight champion of the world for a title in a 9th division. win or lose that's atg stuff.
i know pac won't fight at 135. lame roach don't even want 140.
i just think 135 would be the best fight. even it up a little bit. even at 140 jmm is screwed. plus i like the idea of a 5th lineal title. pac's the only one to have 4 (112 , 126 , 130 , 140) a 5th would be awesome.
What you fail to understand is that Manny did this already and JMM said NO. So JMM should shut his pie hole and be happy if Manny is willing to beat his ass to oblivion this time.
earth to idiot.
i know that.
why are you trying to argue things , i'm not even arguing?
you have reading comprehension problems.
so who do you want pac to fight if floyd doesnt happen?
me?
bradley/alexander winner at 140.
get all those belts. just to add to his resume.
or even berto. jmm 3 is fine. i wouldn't even care if it's mosley tbh.
i'm a bad person to ask. i buy all his fights. i don't whine about it like others do. if pac is fighting , i'm watching.
you're the one going all nuts trying to argue **** i don't even want to argue about.
why do i think manny should man up?
because he's the better fighter , he has the advantages plus , and more importantly , the more he gives up to jmm the better the fight will be.
no one is insulting pac , nitwit.
i think 135 is a better fight and better for his legacy.
****ing emo. :lol1:
What you fail to understand is that Manny did this already and JMM said NO. So JMM should shut his pie hole and be happy if Manny is willing to beat his ass to oblivion this time.
How do you know he can make 135? There has been no evidence of that recently. Cut the crap. If JMM wants the fight, he has no choice but to move up. end of argument.
because fighters usually cut 10-15 lbs.
what all of a sudden he can't anymore?
please.
if he doesn't want to , fine. don't say he can't though. he can.
i'll explain it to you like i explained to the other nitwit.
i'm not saying pac HAS TO. or HE SHOULD.
i don't even care if he fights jmm , i watch whoever he fights anyway.
I WANT to see it 135. myself. what i would like to see.
Why would I be butt hurt? Because you told me to take my vagina with me... I heard better insults in 1st grade man, I'm just waiting for you to validate why Manny is the one who has to man up.
you're the one going all nuts trying to argue **** i don't even want to argue about.
why do i think manny should man up?
because he's the better fighter , he has the advantages plus , and more importantly , the more he gives up to jmm the better the fight will be.
no one is insulting pac , nitwit.
i think 135 is a better fight and better for his legacy.
****ing emo. :lol1:
he can make 135.
cut what 10 lbs? 11? 12?
he use to cut way more than that.
How do you know he can make 135? There has been no evidence of that recently. Cut the crap. If JMM wants the fight, he has no choice but to move up. end of argument.
what's funny is you think some guy who is a big pac fan is "hating" on pac.
i didn't reply because you're lame.
you're so defensive and butthurt so easily. :lol1:
Why would I be butt hurt? Because you told me to take my vagina with me... I heard better insults in 1st grade man, I'm just waiting for you to validate why Manny is the one who has to man up.
pactards are getting as bad as flomos now.
emotional cunts.
must be some 14 yr. old kid at some internet cafe in manila.
going through puberty has his hormones and emotions revving.
I just saw how stupid your post was and had to comment, its funny how you just tell me to leave because you have nothing to dispute what I put because you know its true. JMM had his chance with Manny the 3rd time and he passed, if he don't get another shot its no ones fault but his own.
what's funny is you think some guy who is a big pac fan is "hating" on pac.
i didn't reply because you're lame.
you're so defensive and butthurt so easily. :lol1:
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