The fact Michael Katsidis knocked him down and he had to go to war with him to win is reason to feel he don't deserve a 3rd fight with Pac. Basically JMM goes down too easy, gets busted up too easy, I dont care how much heart or will he puts in, I want to see Pac fight an opponent who doesnt have to rely on heart and will to win. Those heart guys are the kind he can dominate. JMM does have skill but he no longer has the chin to trade with Pac. Getting knocked down by Katsidis shows me he'll just get knocked down by Pac again and again.
Pac may knock Marquez down, but he will never knock him out and this is why Pac is afraid of Marquez because he knows it will always go to the scorecards.
Yeah lets keep the "mexican theme" going, considering JMM couldn't top Pac at his best not sure how hes suppose to do it at his worse.
When did I say anything about a "Mexican theme"? You racist jerk.
He has two close fights with Pacquiao. He certainly deserves it more than Margarito.
thats part what makes him so great, he comes back from behind like no one else in the sport.
At this point fighting like that won't get JMM nothing but hurt vs Pac.
Doesn't getting knocked down often mean 10-8 rounds? Now tell me why did JMM not win the first two fights with Pac?
thats part what makes him so great, he comes back from behind like no one else in the sport.
Actually I love JMM but the way he fought tonight would not help him vs Pac, he got hit too much, traded too much, and knocked down. Had he won by 1st round KO I'd be more impressed. Why do you guys always want to put a guy who just traded a beating in with Pac?
he fought that way with katsidis because it was to his benefit. i highly doubt he would have sat there and traded shots with many like that. did you see the first two fights. he gets knocked down but he always gets up. almost all of marquez's fights that end in knock outs come late in the fight because he breaks his opponents down. prime example last night. he dosent knock people out with one punch. you love jmm but it seems that you havent watched one of his fights. he was fighting a tough contender it wasnt a mismatch like berto and hernandez.
Im starting to get sick of no wait i AM sick to Fukkin death of hearing about Manny Pac!
For the record the shot Katsidis dropped Juan with would have knocked out a fukkin horse!
yeah i would have liked to see how manny took that shot although me may have never got hit with that shot.
The fact Michael Katsidis knocked him down and he had to go to war with him to win is reason to feel he don't deserve a 3rd fight with Pac. Basically JMM goes down too easy, gets busted up too easy, I dont care how much heart or will he puts in, I want to see Pac fight an opponent who doesnt have to rely on heart and will to win. Those heart guys are the kind he can dominate. JMM does have skill but he no longer has the chin to trade with Pac. Getting knocked down by Katsidis shows me he'll just get knocked down by Pac again and again.
his face held up better than i thought it would and his chin looks as good as ever. he took katsidis's best shot and it really didnt phase him. when he went down there was two minutes left in the round and he not only made it through the round but came back and dominated the round.
I am just still shocked at the fact someone can turn JMM's epic performance into something negative.
The fact u can't see that is no performance worth throwing him in at 147 vs Pac is what amazes me.
The fact Michael Katsidis knocked him down and he had to go to war with him to win is reason to feel he don't deserve a 3rd fight with Pac. Basically JMM goes down too easy, gets busted up too easy, I dont care how much heart or will he puts in, I want to see Pac fight an opponent who doesnt have to rely on heart and will to win. Those heart guys are the kind he can dominate. JMM does have skill but he no longer has the chin to trade with Pac. Getting knocked down by Katsidis shows me he'll just get knocked down by Pac again and again.
Marquez deserves his trilogy with Pacquiao. But just for visuals. KATSIDIS' power left hook Knocked down Marquez.
If Pacquiao have thrown that same LEFT HOOK there would be follow-up of combinations AND WITH POWER.
Pacquiao would annihilate Marquez.
Marg was never 1 of the top ww in this era. His rain consist of beating bums.
Are we saying marg deserves a fight with PAC over jmm? I mean are you serious. What have marg done(since we want to play that gm). He got ko in 1 fight and won a decision over a nobody before PAC.
Jmm has fought Floyd, Diaz(2x) and just now kats.
So margarito fought and beat all these bums?
martinez
cotto
cintron
clottey
to name a few...
Are we talking about the same margarito, sir?
The fact Michael Katsidis knocked him down and he had to go to war with him to win is reason to feel he don't deserve a 3rd fight with Pac. Basically JMM goes down too easy, gets busted up too easy, I dont care how much heart or will he puts in, I want to see Pac fight an opponent who doesnt have to rely on heart and will to win. Those heart guys are the kind he can dominate. JMM does have skill but he no longer has the chin to trade with Pac. Getting knocked down by Katsidis shows me he'll just get knocked down by Pac again and again.
margarito was knocked OUT by mosely
yet he deserved a shot at pac?
Im starting to get sick of no wait i AM sick to Fukkin death of hearing about Manny Pac!
For the record the shot Katsidis dropped Juan with would have knocked out a fukkin horse!
By your logic,
Pacquiao doesn't even deserve any more money fights.
He was floored by a single Jab from Nedal Heussein.
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I'll give you cintron and clottey( who was beating marhs azz but he always finds a way to lose)
Martinez was green. Martinez would destroy marg right now.
He got ko'd by Mosley
Lost to Williams
He beat cotto (but IMO he cheated. I have no proof so I guess it's whatever with that)
He lost to Daniel sontos
He fought PAC at jmw(or should I say for his azz whooped)
If you think marg deserve a fight with PAC over jmm then I guess that something we are going to have to agree to disagree on.
I understand he hasn't beaten nobody above 140 but look who he fought.
Also who should PAC face. Not Mosley for sure. Only 1 I see is berto. Sergio is out of the question. As a Floyd fan I even understand that manny shouldn't have fight(or don't need to rather).
Marg is one of the top WW wether you agree or not.
But Who????
Don't even say Diaz and Katsidis. lol
JMM has to prove himself at 140, 147.
Getting outboxed the whole 12 rounds against floyd won't get it done. If Pac wins, people will say he beat an aging blown up lightweight.
Why can't you understand that?
1st won I had a draw but the second 1 I had him winning a close decision.
We wouldn't even be discussing this if Floyd would open his mouth.
If Pac not going to fight Floyd then man up and fight Berto. We don't need to see him tread water with JMM again.
Just watched the fight, and i cant believe the 1st 2 threads i see about JMM are negative.
JMM was amazing. Anyone criticising him, or seeing some negative aspect is a total and utter fukking idiot.
Margarito - coming off an unimpressive win against a bum and being destroyed by Shane Mosley gets a fight
Clottey - losing all his big fights and coming off a loss gets a shot at Pacquiao
Cotto - coming off a close fight Clottey, beating a bum, and destroyed by Margarito gets a Pacquiao fight
should I keep going with Hatton and De La Hoya?
Hatton changed his training camp last minute.
DLH was weight drained and was past his prime.