Do you really consider Pac a legit 154 title holder?

He cant beat k-9 and cotto? What belt holder can't he beat? Nah im thinking more, Martinez at 154 or so....or P will (whos just a tall fuker, pacs a much better fighter) I mean, i do think he can beat any1.....but i just dont know if he would

I see that 13 trolls have voted.

Im a huge huge pac fan But the fact is, to be a legit holder of a division, you have to be able to beat all the people in that division, and im not sure if pac can do that.... Not because hes not great...cos he is the best in the sport in my opinion....but hes just not big enough for that division, i still think he would beat 90% of the people in that division tho... That just shows how great he really is He cant beat k-9 and cotto? What belt holder can't he beat?

I don't really agree with the 154 belt that Pac won because it was only a vacant belt. What I saw was Pac beating a good welterweight in Margarito...PAC was like,'hey I'll give you 3 extra pounds and we can still fight'. It was opportunity that was there and Pac took it, don't blame Pac but blame the WBC. PAC winning his 154 belt is more real than Oscar winning his 160 belt. PAC dominated a big welter who they fought within the Jr. Welterweight division. Oscar on the other hand lost his fight and was given the decision just so he could fight Hopkin.

Im a huge huge pac fan But the fact is, to be a legit holder of a division, you have to be able to beat all the people in that division, and im not sure if pac can do that.... Not because hes not great...cos he is the best in the sport in my opinion....but hes just not big enough for that division, i still think he would beat 90% of the people in that division tho... That just shows how great he really is

its great to see pac destroy margarito, but as for him being called a jmw champion................ some ppl may argue he beat marg when marg's at 165, hence, pac is fully capable destroying and fighting jmw boxers... hence... making him a jmw champion....................................................................... ........................ ............................................ i'll get my coat

Pacs win was great, but how can he keep a straight face when they call him a JMW champ? I guess boxing is a business, and being called a 8 weight champ makes for good promotion and more money. He either holds a title or he doesnt What you are looking for is if he is the legit champ, and thats a no I was seeing if 'boxing fans' think him having the 154 belt is bullshiit or not. Seems like all the people who voted yes to him being a legit 154lber havent posted why. Its just a shame such a great fighter undermines the sport and boxing fans with this sham of being a MW champ.

your more of joke for thinking pac is the legit champ of 154 ok,who's better in a 154 division now?

He either holds a title or he doesnt What you are looking for is if he is the legit champ, and thats a no

Why is everybody acting like a bunch of bitches over another mans success? Most title holders today arent legit. Look at the title holders in every weight class right now and I bet you dont recognize half the fighters. The belt system is a joke. What Manny did was batter a man nobody would have given him a chance against 2 years ago. I have no doubt he could unify the titles against Cotto and Bundrage, but I have no desire to see it.

not unless he fights martinez

No, of course he isn't.

Of course not. Not only did he fight for a bogus vacant belt against a garbage, underserving opponent, he did it 4 pounds below the limit for that weightclass. A sham.

WBC is a joke.

No he isnt but he is still a great fighter and his accomplishments are very impressive.

hhahaha no way his 154 title is a fake it is a joke just like him., :rofl: Your a joke!

Pac will beat anyone at 154. Margarito now will beat all of those guys there Angulo would probably murder Margi, seriously. Dizzy would beat margy, soundly I might add with a jab alone. Williams would win again, it would be a great test for Alverez who i think would win. I even see clottey winning the re (hes campaigning there now). Get real. All you need to know about margi was evident in his return fight prior to pacman. As for idiots claiming pac is a legit 154 holder.. how when he will never defend the belt without a catchweight or at all. and suddenly martinez is too big and shouldnt be challenging him at that weight.. but how is it a problem if he's willing to make the cut and weigh in at the limit? pac fans are just hypocrites.

Pac will beat anyone at 154. Margarito now will beat all of those guys there

No way and hard core Pac fans shouldn't either.