Floyd asking for ost

Manny should just take the damn tests. What's he got to lose? He'll make a ton of money in the process. Not to mention, he'll clear his name. He wins all the way around. I just don't understand why he doesn't do it. giving into mayweather's insecurities makes floyd a complete fighter. i would like to see pacquiao take the test then dominate floyd @ his own game. it would be bittersweet. but this is boxing, the battle begins before the bell. i doubt team pac are in a hurry to give in just because people are riding on mayweather's hype. yeah the pac excuses to not take the tests sucked but it is what it is.

Manny had already said that the Mayweather fight is not important to him...why give it to demands? It's like giving in to the demands of Juan Manuel Marquez. thats exactly the problem people are okay with Manny fighting Margarito for a vacant belt at a catchweight and gets props for it. why should he fight the loaded 140 division or HOFers like JJM Mosley and Mayweather? why even try if people dont want you to?

Lets get our facts straight. Team Wife Beater never asked, they made demands after they've dragged PAC's name through the mud with accusations, insinuations, you name it they did it. In hopes of coercing PAC to take OSTs. It's really not easy to just agree with someone after he just publicly tried to make a fool out of you. Speaking of facts...Ignore the fact that they agreed in the beginning thought right? They didn't demand anything. This was part of the negotiations from the beginning. It was a concession that Pac would've made, just like the ones that FMJ made. Nothing different. So what you are saying is that you agree with Mayweather for not fighting Pac the second time, after they lied about the 14days and tried to make him look fool after the 1st negotiations?

Yes sir, Mayweather offered the 14 day cutt-off but 3days after the Pac/Clottery fight have been signed. Umm, WRONG! Check your facts, jack. He offered them B4 they even went to the mediator. Floyds team said this after the fight they walked away. Pac's team lied and said it didn't happen. Then, the mediator came back and said that Pac's team was lying. Now that you know the facts, and since since I am sure that was a negative in your eyes for Floyd, does that same negative apply to Pac. Pac's team walked away from the 1st negotiations, like it or not.

Mayweather's only demand was random OST, Pacquiao said no, then Pacquiao wanted 30 day cut off, Mayweather offered 14 day cut off, Arum said Team Mayweather never offered 14 day cut off, mediaitor for Pacquiao-Mayweather said Arum lied and Mayweather did offer 14 day cut off, and that Arum just wanted Pacquiao to fight Clottey. Actually, Roach confirmed that they agreed to OST originally. After that, he changed w/the different interviews. I saw him go from 3, 5, 7 30, then to 24 after they got caught in the lie about drug testing previously. Roach also mentioned Pac "feeling weak 2-3 days after, superstion and Manny being afraid of needles. Later, he claimed that it wasn't Manny, but that HE would not let him take the drug test so close to the fight, because he would lose 3(i think he said) in sparring. So how many lies does it take?

Jesus, what are you, like 14? "crackhead sr." "wifebeater". I mean can we discuss this without that school yard elementary bullshiat? foreal, this place has turned into philboxing. the IQ and humor level on that forum is pathetic.

Floyd agreed to their demands,ring size,glove size the good old 10 million penalty for each pound? Wtf man he doesn't wanna clear his name?let that cheater fight catch weight fights and floyds and shanes left overs but one thing is for sure pacquiao fans will always be talking about floyd mayweather because they know their hero paccy is wrong so they go and cry to floyd about it

floyd just needs to believe in himself again. there's big doubt underneath that thick layer of bravado. i guess it comes with the territory if you've been fighting big name nobodies for the last few years... had he done magic like he did with corrales before the first negotiations, we wouldn't be on this steroid garbage. but then again, money would've just retired anyway. there will always be a margarito in his career. he just chose a different path to avoid it this time.

But, but, how soon you forget Crackhead, Sr's comment about how a PAC on PEDs doesn't matter, his boy will outbox the sh*t out of the midget. Oh, and what about, "PEDS don't give you boxing skills" - Crackhead Sr. Oh, wait, wait, "I don't want my son to face southpaws, but my son will knock him out anyway" - Crackhead Sr. Oh, here's some more "Easy money, easy work" - Wife Beater The world is waiting for Wife Beater to give us what he has been promising to the world for nearly two f**kin' years now. Please Wife Beater, we want to witness a mismatch, between a slick AA vs. Asian Midget with zero boxing skills. The world can't wait for this lopsided victory of yours. Jesus, what are you, like 14? "crackhead sr." "wifebeater". I mean can we discuss this without that school yard elementary bullshiat?

Funny that you say that considering Pac has passed every drug test since he set foot on US soil... Its one thing if the NSAC or Boxing Commission tells Pac to condone in the new strict blood testing protocol and Pac says "No or I need a cut off" but if Floyd Mayweather who has a history of finding an excuse not to fight particular fighters (and if you say this isnt true your just blind) request out of the norm blood testing demands then I would say "GO F$$# YOURSELF" But as of Today Pac is willing to compromise while Floyd is no where to be found... Says alot at this stage of all the drama.. Do you seriously have faith in the Comissions to detect any and all forms of cheating? Why shouldn't the most lucrative fight in the sport's history employ a test that detects PEDs that routine testing can't?

well floyd gave into the 10 million over weight because he has never been over the weight limit. over a catchweight yeah but he never cared about that anyway. and he gave in 50 50 because he still comes off with alot of money. but since manny didnt give into his demands he refuse to give in to mannys anymore. thats why floyd wont comprimise with 14 days or any days anymore he wants random thats his demand and either manny accepts or no fight. if floyd back down now its like he lost already and if manny backs down he can seem like the hero and it plays into the fight even more bahahahha get floyds nuts outa ya mouth boy.. i can see his pubes hanging out ya teeth

I really don't see how drug testing would be the issue specially since both will be subjected to it . I expect the split or the fight date but never thought OST would be the killer It's not anymore a big issue. Not even Floyd has come out saying that. Only some people on this board since Manny has gone down to 7 days WITHOUT ANY NEGOTIATIONS, according to Floyd! As EVERYONE has said, the issue is Floyd taking his long vacation. Now it may be extended more because of his personal problems. Time will tell.

I'm gonna have to disagree with "They just don't want to give in to eachother's demands". Mayweather gave in to 8oz gloves, 50-50 split, and $10Million for every pound over 147 at the weigh in. Those were all 3 of Pacquiao's demands and Mayweather said yes to all of them. Mayweather's only demand was random OST, Pacquiao said no, then Pacquiao wanted 30 day cut off, Mayweather offered 14 day cut off, Arum said Team Mayweather never offered 14 day cut off, mediaitor for Pacquiao-Mayweather said Arum lied and Mayweather did offer 14 day cut off, and that Arum just wanted Pacquiao to fight Clottey. Margarito said since May, the he was gonna fight Pacquiao in November. Arum was just trying to keep it in house for 2010. There was nothing anyone can do. yes there was someone and that someone was Floyd. If Floyd would have said, "who would go on a vacation for that long, of course I want to fight Manny" .... BUT Floyd said he didn't want to fight Manny so Manny had to fight his 2nd option, Margo.

Lets get our facts straight. Team Wife Beater never asked, they made demands after they've dragged PAC's name through the mud with accusations, insinuations, you name it they did it. In hopes of coercing PAC to take OSTs. Ego is very much in play here. So, PAC's rebuttal to all this is to just keep destroying common foes where the other one can only muster boring SD's, UDs, hehe. Thing is it's only in this forum that this OST thing still gets talked about. As soon as Team Pac announced that they were agreeing to the 14 day cut-off months ago, that was all the real world wanted to hear. Since then Floyd became the laughing stock and the mainstream media lay the blame everything squarely on Floyd. Everyone knows that Floyd deciding to go on vacation has nothing to to do with this OST nonsense.

I really don't see how drug testing would be the issue specially since both will be subjected to it . I expect the split or the fight date but never thought OST would be the killer

If you have nothing to hide you take the test. It's that simple. I cannot think of a single athlete in the world other than Manny Pacquiao that would refuse a drug test (a 50 million dollar one at that) and yet the other fighter is construed as the one ducking. It's laugable really. Could you imagine if the roles were reversed? People would be completely incensed that Mayweather is holding up the biggest fight in history because he isn't willing to prove he is a clean fighter. Funny that you say that considering Pac has passed every drug test since he set foot on US soil... Its one thing if the NSAC or Boxing Commission tells Pac to condone in the new strict blood testing protocol and Pac says "No or I need a cut off" but if Floyd Mayweather who has a history of finding an excuse not to fight particular fighters (and if you say this isnt true your just blind) request out of the norm blood testing demands then I would say "GO F$$# YOURSELF" But as of Today Pac is willing to compromise while Floyd is no where to be found... Says alot at this stage of all the drama..

This isn't about either ducking the other or being afraid, but an ego thing. I really wish people would use common sense and realize this. Not only is it a battle of egos between Manny and Floyd....but also with Haymon and Arum. of course. thats why i dont see why people constantly sayign floyd duck or scare or whatever when there are so many people in the background that has controll of this fight. it will happen even if they both are forced into it but it will happen at the right time. making threads about floyd ducking who and manny this and that all day is promoting the fight without them actually promoting it. whatever floyd manny arum haymon hbo did is working. floyd is the villian manny is hero and this fight will be huge

Lets get our facts straight. Team Wife Beater never asked, they made demands after they've dragged PAC's name through the mud with accusations, insinuations, you name it they did it. In hopes of coercing PAC to take OSTs. It's really not easy to just agree with someone after he just publicly tried to make a fool out of you. I don't know about you, but if someone was falsely accusing me of using performance enhancing drugs, the first thing I would want to do is take a drug test to prove they were wrong.

well floyd gave into the 10 million over weight because he has never been over the weight limit. over a catchweight yeah but he never cared about that anyway. and he gave in 50 50 because he still comes off with alot of money. but since manny didnt give into his demands he refuse to give in to mannys anymore. thats why floyd wont comprimise with 14 days or any days anymore he wants random thats his demand and either manny accepts or no fight. if floyd back down now its like he lost already and if manny backs down he can seem like the hero and it plays into the fight even more

is the same reason why manny declines it. roach even says we wont give in(not because they are afriad of anything or are using anything) but because giving into that is like losing the first 2 rounds. they just dont want to give in into eachother demands. its that neither is afriad. its just their way of mind games and post poning the fight. but doesnt matter what i say the manny haters and the floyd haters will continue to waste their time and life looking for anything to degrade the other fighter facts or no facts they will ignore the truth and just believe whatever makes their own beliefs look like reason. This isn't about either ducking the other or being afraid, but an ego thing. I really wish people would use common sense and realize this. Not only is it a battle of egos between Manny and Floyd....but also with Haymon and Arum.