Correct me if I'm wrong.
No matter which weight they fight at, 140 or 147, Pacquiao would Still weigh the same on fight night. If the fight is at 140lb, Pacquiao will just rehydrate to a comfortable weight easily. (Obviously Pacquiao can make 140lb easy)
JMM DOESN'T have to come in @ 147lb, right?
So I really don't see why some peeps are making a big deal out of this.
For the Margarito fight, Pacquiao was on a ridiculous diet and an extreme training regimen. Pacquiao barely came in at 144.6lb. Pacquiao can eat comfortable and not wake up in the middle of the night to drink those high calorie shakes vs. marquez. I really don't see the big deal. Both men will weigh around the same come fight night
Stop yourself. Really.
You are being sold a bill of goods on that whole "we can't get weight on Manny" thing.
manny was 148 on fight night for Margarito,
manny was 148 on fight night for Diaz.
Look it up.
SilverSun,
Here is why it matters:
Manny has found out what Mayweather knew for a long time. It is very nice not to have to dry out on fight week and not to have to "make weight". You can eat and be comfortable and not put in extra work. That allows you to have more stamina on fight night.
Making the fight at 140 would force manny to do something he hasn't had to do in a couple of years. Perhaps taking Pac out of his comfort zone.
In essence, JMM is asking Pac to do what Pac has been forcing his opponents to do.
After all, if a few pounds didn't matter, why did they force Cotto to come down to 145? RIGHT?
For the Margarito fight, Pacquiao was on a ridiculous diet and an extreme training regimen. Pacquiao barely came in at 144.6lb. Pacquiao can eat comfortable and not wake up in the middle of the night to drink those high calorie shakes vs. marquez. I really don't see the big deal. Both men will weigh around the same come fight night
JMMs ring weight last night was 145. Pacs last was 148. JMM/Pac3 at 147 seems reasonable to me now although I'd have no problem with it being at 144. It's not like MP is going to rehydrate up to 160, JMM and Pac fight at the same weight it appears. All roads lead to Manny Pacquiao, evidenced by every significant boxer from 135-160 wanting to be his next dance partner. See if you can beat Pac at his best, not one that's weight drained like the Pac hatred like to attribute to his recent opponents, then there can be no excuses. Let's get it on, Pac/JMM 3!!
SilverSun,
Here is why it matters:
Manny has found out what Mayweather knew for a long time. It is very nice not to have to dry out on fight week and not to have to "make weight". You can eat and be comfortable and not put in extra work. That allows you to have more stamina on fight night.
Making the fight at 140 would force manny to do something he hasn't had to do in a couple of years. Perhaps taking Pac out of his comfort zone.
In essence, JMM is asking Pac to do what Pac has been forcing his opponents to do.
After all, if a few pounds didn't matter, why did they force Cotto to come down to 145? RIGHT?
Listen. My point is Pacquiao will come in 146-148lb fight night regardless. He can easily make 140lb and rehydrate to the desired weight. Making the fight at either weight division makes no difference, maybe just psychologically.
Marquez is the one that wants this fight. He should know Pacquiao will come in at w/e weight he wants regardless if it's 140 or 147. Marquez can come in at w/e weight he wants as well
and what I am saying is that you can switch the names Pacquiao and Marquez in your statement above for Mayweather and Hatton.
On fight night, Hatton was 154 and Mayweather was 148. Yet people say that Hatton was at a disadvantage fighting at 147.
I don't have a problem with the concept, per se. I'm merely pointing out your hypocrisy.
However, there IS one important component about the weight class (which prolly doesn't apply in this instance). Yes, a higher weight class gives you the option of not drying out to make weight. But you take the risk of the other guy being 155+ on fight night.
I really don't see the big deal myself.
Both are within the same weight range at 147.
I just don't know who's stopping them from weighing below or near that limit.
The point is that Hatton is heavier than Mayweather on fight night. Yet people are saying that RH had no business at 147.
Nobody told Marquez where/how to come in....right? The higher weight only gave him more options, not fewer. Right?
Yet, it is said that Mayweather's win is less important because the fight was contested at the 147 limit.
Similarly, Marquez and Pac have similar fight-night weights. In fact (unlike floyd/ricky), Pac outweighs JMM by a few pounds. Pac is the naturally bigger man by about a half a division to a division. And we all realize that JMM is less effective at the higher weight than Pac is.
You have to treat the two matchups the same. Either the weight class didn't matter...or it does.
Listen. My point is Pacquiao will come in 146-148lb fight night regardless. He can easily make 140lb and rehydrate to the desired weight. Making the fight at either weight division makes no difference, maybe just psychologically.
Marquez is the one that wants this fight. He should know Pacquiao will come in at w/e weight he wants regardless if it's 140 or 147. Marquez can come in at w/e weight he wants as well
Ricky Hatton came in at 145lb I believe, Marquez doesn't have to come in overweight. Your point?
The point is that Hatton is heavier than Mayweather on fight night. Yet people are saying that RH had no business at 147.
Nobody told Marquez where/how to come in....right? The higher weight only gave him more options, not fewer. Right?
Yet, it is said that Mayweather's win is less important because the fight was contested at the 147 limit.
Similarly, Marquez and Pac have similar fight-night weights. In fact (unlike floyd/ricky), Pac outweighs JMM by a few pounds. Pac is the naturally bigger man by about a half a division to a division. And we all realize that JMM is less effective at the higher weight than Pac is.
You have to treat the two matchups the same. Either the weight class didn't matter...or it does.
for the same reason that people said it mattered in mayweather-hatton.
Ricky Hatton came in at 145lb I believe, Marquez doesn't have to come in overweight. Your point?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
No matter which weight they fight at, 140 or 147, Pacquiao would Still weigh the same on fight night. If the fight is at 140lb, Pacquiao will just rehydrate to a comfortable weight easily. (Obviously Pacquiao can make 140lb easy)
JMM DOESN'T have to come in @ 147lb, right?
So I really don't see why some peeps are making a big deal out of this.
for the same reason that people said it mattered in mayweather-hatton.
it matters because the fight is not only about manny what about the other man in this equation? do u think marquez rather the fight be at 140 or 147?
What I'm saying is, it DOESN'T matter if the weight is 140lb or 147lb, Manny will still be 146-148 come fight night. I'm pretty sure this is why JMM doesn't care if the fight is at 147lb.. jeez
The people that are saying 147lb is BS... they're idiots with low IQ because JMM doesn't have to come in at 147lbs.
it matters because the fight is not only about manny what about the other man in this equation? do u think marquez rather the fight be at 140 or 147?
Why doesn't Marquez come in light? I mean he can come in 140 Fight. Now matter what weight they fight at, Manny is gonna be 148 on the day of the fight...so what does it matter.
FWIW....I don't want to see this fight as it's a waste of everyones time. I expect a TKO stoppage within 5 rounds, with the possibilty of Manny one punch KO'ing Marquez' old @ss.
Pacquiao weighed in 144.6lb for the Margarito fight. He was on heavy calorie shakes to keep weight on, etc. We can safely assume Pacquiao makes 140lb easy.
I think he makes 140 as well-it is most likely his most dominating weight....135...that is a completely different thing to ask.
Who would he be making 135 for...Marquez? That would be crazy.
What's being talked about is 140lb and 147lb
Majority of the Pac-haters were saying they want to see the fight at 140lb. I simply provided some info on why it doesn't matter.
it matters because the fight is not only about manny what about the other man in this equation? do u think marquez rather the fight be at 140 or 147?
What makes you think PAC can make 135 without seriously hurting his performance in the ring? What-because some crazy PAC fans say making 140 is easy? What do they know what is easy and what is not for Manny at this point?
5 pounds is huge-ask Diego Corrales and JL Castillo what the big deal over a few pounds is.
Pacquiao weighed in 144.6lb for the Margarito fight. He was on heavy calorie shakes to keep weight on, etc. We can safely assume Pacquiao makes 140lb easy.