PAC’S MEN
So who will Manny Pacquiao face next? It looks like there could be three prime candidates.
Bob Arum told Maxboxing on Monday afternoon, "We got terms for Mosley. As far as Berto, we’ll get terms from Lou DiBella. I’ll negotiate and get terms. And then I’ll get terms, maybe, on Marquez because I’m not doing any co-promotions. And I’m bringing the three proposals; I’ll have two or three to Manny in mid-December. He’s going to pick the guy and we’re off and running. Because it looks now like Mayweather is not going to make himself available."
Both Marquez and Berto have fights to win this weekend at the MGM Grand. Marquez faces Michael Katsidis and Berto takes on Freddy Hernandez on HBO. Steve Kim - Maxboxing
what do you think i just did?
but I'm just calling you on your bullshiit and not defending your crap...
No you did not do that,
And, no you not calling anything.
You're a terrible poster.
PACS MEN
So who will Manny Pacquiao face next? It looks like there could be three prime candidates.
Bob Arum told Maxboxing on Monday afternoon, "We got terms for Mosley. As far as Berto, well get terms from Lou DiBella. Ill negotiate and get terms. And then Ill get terms, maybe, on Marquez because Im not doing any co-promotions. And Im bringing the three proposals; Ill have two or three to Manny in mid-December. Hes going to pick the guy and were off and running. Because it looks now like Mayweather is not going to make himself available."
Both Marquez and Berto have fights to win this weekend at the MGM Grand. Marquez faces Michael Katsidis and Berto takes on Freddy Hernandez on HBO. Steve Kim - Maxboxing
What you have here are a list of 2nd options, Floyd still is the 1st choice but i think Arum is just thinking ahead coz what if Floyd wants to settle first his legal battles and then opted to get a tune up first with Mattew. Then the superfight might end up happening at the tail end of 2011.. Still works for me..
Indeed. Bob Arum never tried to make this match up in the first place. He knows any guy Pacquiao fights will make money I also laughed when he said "I don't wanna co-promote" which means "I want to keep all the money to myself".
Bob Arum is a scum bag. Always has, always will be.
Arum was talking specifically about not wanting co-promote with GBP.
He doesn't want to share the promotional costs with the company that tried to tarnish Manny career and reputation with baseless drug accusations and who Manny is suing. I don't blame him.
If GBP want the Marquez fight they will have to put their money where their mouth is and pay for the entire promotion, to ensure Top Rank don't lose any money on the fight. Manny has said this himself in a recent interview.
Shane's my 5th or 6th choice for Pac, but from a business standpoint it probably makes sense to bump him up near the front of the line due his advanced age and rapidly closing window as a somewhat viable candidate for the ppv masses. Same could also be said for JMM, but it'd probably be a super hard sell once ssm hits the big 40 :( harder than it'd be after his 2 recent crappy performances. I'm guessing it's 95% done deal for Shane unless Pac rejects it.
It'll be Shane at 147.
JMM has priced himself out asking for 50/50 purse splits before. Manny will not fight at 140.
Berto is relatively unknown and nowhere near Shanes or JMM's status.
Look for a Pac/Shane fight in late May. Sales will be to the tune of 1-1.2m buys and in Vegas under NSAC rules.
Oh yeah. Manny wins via 7th rd TKO, Brother Naazim and his corner stops the fight
Apparently Shane is not the last option.
And, with Arum saying no co-promotion he is the only option TBH.
And, that is just crap.
Its crap alright.
From a promoter's perspective though, you got the cash cow and these fighters are lining up to him.
TR alone does a fine job of promoting pac ... without the help of these promoters piggy backing.
this pisses me off i didnt mind the margo fight cause i wanted to see that cheater get his butt whooped but mosley is a dumb fight martinez said he would go to 154 so whats the big deal?
i see how ppl excused the margarito thing. i knew hed get his ass beat but ppl thought he'd actually fight back and he did to some extent. but ****ing mosely??? berto is a whole lot more live than mosely at this point. the guy hasnt looked good in over 2 years.
if berto destroys hernandez is stunning fashion and pac doesnt fight him or if bradley destroys alexander in stunning fashoin and pac doesnt fight him then i really dont know what to say. there can be no more excuses.
IMO Mayweather> JMM@140> Alexander/Bradley (winner)@140> Berto> Grandfather Mosley
If the next fight is Mosley (which it most likely is) then FUCK Arum and FUCK Pac. Pac should be standing up to Arum with this shit but he's such a fucking pussy. He says that fighting Marquez is stupid because "no one would want to watch it." WTF? That's his biggest money fight if a fight with Floyd can't be made. Team Pac is fucking bullshit, man.
And if the JMM fight can be made, fight at 140 not 147. No bullshit. Ariza even admitted that Manny weighed 140 the morning of his weigh-in with Margarito and had to overeat just to get up to 144.6.
Also remember gentlemen. This is playing perfectly for Bob Arum, because since he did that horrid deadline garbage with Mayweather which Mayweather had alot of things going on during that period(His trainer on trial etcetc) which was basically the first terms on a 50/50 split even though Mayweather just come off a win against Mosley providing 70mill+ in PPV revenue. They still wanted the 50/50 split. I don't know about you, but at this point if I was Mayweather I'd figure I'm the bigger draw and ask for a 60/40 split, but hey that's just me.
Now the media hyped into this and made Mayweather the "ducker" so Pacquiao basically became more famous. Thus increasing his popularity and PPV buys. This is perfect for Arum because he has YOU fans in the palm of his hand. He knows he can make millions fighting anyone. In this case It's Shane Mosley a guy coming off 2 bad performances. People are saying they'll boycott now, but just wait until the HBO hype train rolls in people will actually think Mosley will have a legitimate chance. So then you'll order the fight because they'll make it seem Pacquiao will lose so they're making it seem as an "historic" event.
Bob Arum is a scumbag and he's ruining the fight, if you can't see it then I suggest you take a few business courses.
Good post, green K.
You can call them on their bull**** and not defend that crap
what do you think i just did?
instead of trying to turn it around on Floyd like you tried to do with your first post in this thread.
but I'm just calling you on your bullshiit and not defending your crap...
No co-promotional?
So Pac-Mosley it is then since I doubt Dibella would not allow TR getting all the money.
Pathetic really.
Pathetic is an understatment.
Pacquiao-Mosley is pathetic at this point.
Is a garbage ass fight.
And, it is sad that is the only fight that Top Rank is serious of making.
Very sad, but hey, it is what it is my man. I honestly think that Arum doesn't want to make that fight with Floyd at all. Arum doesn't want Manny to be tested.
You can call them on their bull**** and not defend that crap instead of trying to turn it around on Floyd like you tried to do with your first post in this thread.
You are right.
For me, it doesn't have to be Floyd, just a worthy opponent who doesn't have a past of being beat up brutally before they face him. Mosley, JMM, or Berto (not ready) are not worthy opponents IMO.
Also remember gentlemen. This is playing perfectly for Bob Arum, because since he did that horrid deadline garbage with Mayweather which Mayweather had alot of things going on during that period(His trainer on trial etcetc) which was basically the first terms on a 50/50 split even though Mayweather just come off a win against Mosley providing 70mill+ in PPV revenue. They still wanted the 50/50 split. I don't know about you, but at this point if I was Mayweather I'd figure I'm the bigger draw and ask for a 60/40 split, but hey that's just me.
Now the media hyped into this and made Mayweather the "ducker" so Pacquiao basically became more famous. Thus increasing his popularity and PPV buys. This is perfect for Arum because he has YOU fans in the palm of his hand. He knows he can make millions fighting anyone. In this case It's Shane Mosley a guy coming off 2 bad performances. People are saying they'll boycott now, but just wait until the HBO hype train rolls in people will actually think Mosley will have a legitimate chance. So then you'll order the fight because they'll make it seem Pacquiao will lose so they're making it seem as an "historic" event.
Bob Arum is a scumbag and he's ruining the fight, if you can't see it then I suggest you take a few business courses.
Pacquiao-Mosley is pathetic at this point.
Is a garbage ass fight.
And, it is sad that is the only fight that Top Rank is serious of making.
I agree with you but like i said, we can't control which fighter should fight who next. I even don't like Pac-MAB rematch. But as a fan, you can criticize me all you want, but i will watch it even if the fight has not that much value cuz of Mosley showing age.
I am not making excuses but maybe Pac deserved an easy fight. Yeah he dominated all of his opponents since moving up to lightweight. But at ww and jr. mw, he took some hits too. In an interview, Pac said his body still aches after 2-3 days after the fight. Margarito, while slow, is no pushover. Forgot what round, Margarito hurt him to the body and i though Pac was going down.
Pac said he has 3 more years left and if it is true, so there is still plenty of time to face more credible opponents.
I don't like it either, but what you gonna do?
arum got the ball and if you don't play by his rules, he's gonna take it home. anybody in arum's position would say the same thing.
You can call them on their bull**** and not defend that crap instead of trying to turn it around on Floyd like you tried to do with your first post in this thread.
would have loved to have seen Pac-Valero
I will take Pac-Maidana as a close second
Well thats gotta be a joke, Maidana would be out within the first 3 rounds.
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