ENOUGH. Pacquiao and Floyd are welterweights, Martinez is a middleweight.

Is this concept really so hard to understand? Pac and Floyd aren't even big welterweights, and only in his last couple fights has Floyd been an average sized middleweight, and just barely. Pac won't even come in above 145 at a weigh in. Everyone who says these two are ducking the middleweight champion, who himself understands that the two are not his size, is a f***ing moron and just needs to shut up. If they want to make the fight, all the power to them and I'll be excited. But they deserve no criticism if they don't. they just want to see them lose the hating is clouding they're judgment

b.c he wants fighters to be drained and to focus on weight rather than training...we know why Focusing on weight is part of the training for all boxers. Having too eat so much to put on more weight than is natural could also be a distraction to training? But, the catchweights issue is a legitimate criticism of Pac's wins.

Floyd will not be fighting for a while. It has been said on Boxing News that Floyd has "way to much on his plate right now." Because Floyd is in this mess with the law, apparently he will be putting his efforts into straightening that out before training for a fight. He believes that it is a slap in the face to the judges if he starts training for a fight while trying to resolve his issues. Even though I hate Floyd, it is understandable his reasoning about not setting up a fight with anyone.. But we'll have to wait and see what happens.

Is this concept really so hard to understand? Pac and Floyd aren't even big welterweights, and only in his last couple fights has Floyd been an average sized middleweight, and just barely. Pac won't even come in above 145 at a weigh in. Everyone who says these two are ducking the middleweight champion, who himself understands that the two are not his size, is a f***ing moron and just needs to shut up. If they want to make the fight, all the power to them and I'll be excited. But they deserve no criticism if they don't. martinez vs. either are fantasy fights. if one could move up to challenge martinez, it would be wifebeater because he is taller and bigger. pac can make 144 lbs easy, but wifebeater can't make 144 lbs anymore. saying that either is ducking martinez is a sign of retardation.

If you want accurate,Martinez is a lightmiddleweight(he weighed 157,can make 155,154) Floyd a WW. Manny a lightWW. Floyd is only a division smaller!!! :D If he was still at 154, there would be more reason behind Pac or Floyd fighting Sergio, but Sergio apparently can't/won't make 154 anymore. So we are talking about a middleweight here.

Is this concept really so hard to understand? Pac and Floyd aren't even big welterweights, and only in his last couple fights has Floyd been an average sized middleweight, and just barely. Pac won't even come in above 145 at a weigh in. Everyone who says these two are ducking the middleweight champion, who himself understands that the two are not his size, is a f***ing moron and just needs to shut up. If they want to make the fight, all the power to them and I'll be excited. But they deserve no criticism if they don't. If you want accurate,Martinez is a lightmiddleweight(he weighed 157,can make 155,154) Floyd a WW. Manny a lightWW. Floyd is only a division smaller!!! :D

Is this concept really so hard to understand? Pac and Floyd aren't even big welterweights, and only in his last couple fights has Floyd been an average sized middleweight, and just barely. Pac won't even come in above 145 at a weigh in. Everyone who says these two are ducking the middleweight champion, who himself understands that the two are not his size, is a f***ing moron and just needs to shut up. If they want to make the fight, all the power to them and I'll be excited. But they deserve no criticism if they don't. Agree completely... no more catchweights. Pac and Floyd need to fight, that's it.

Thanks. Neither one of them will be fighting Sergio, and that is fine. They need to fight each other. ^^^^^^^truth

This makes you appreciate the stones that JMM possesses. JMM was barely a lightweight when he went up to what ended up being full welterweight (after being cheated) to fight Mayweather. Respect to the piss drinker. But JMM couldn't hurt Floyd, just like Pac or Floyd won't be able to hurt Sexy at 160. Sexy ate flush punches from Pavlik who weighed 178, but Sexy never went down (the KD was more due to being off balance since he was only hit with a grazing blow). Sexy would laugh at Pac or Floyd's punches, especially Floyd's.

There is an argument about Martinez and Marg both being almost the same size. It's a really good point. Pacquiao should defend his title against Martinez at 154, Im sick of catchweights as well. If your gonna fight in another division, hey atleast do it in the proper way, 154 it is pac, if not just move back Pac to your own real division which is 140. I disagree about Martinez and Margarito. Yeah, Margarito is apparently taller but he has been at welterweight his entire career until the last two fights, when he has been past it and looking to rejuvenate his career. Martinez is a full grown middleweight now, much quicker and stronger than Margarito, he is inarguably a bigger man.

lol Flomos doesnt want Floyd vs Sergio cuz Sergio is to big for lil Floyd but they want to see Pacquiao vs Sergio even do their boy Floyd is way bigger guy then Pacman. They basically admitts that Pacquiao has chance against Sergio and Floyd has no chance.

There is an argument about Martinez and Marg both being almost the same size. It's a really good point. Pacquiao should defend his title against Martinez at 154, Im sick of catchweights as well. If your gonna fight in another division, hey atleast do it in the proper way, 154 it is pac, if not just move back Pac to your own real division which is 140.

Bump, since the first page is still flooded with morons saying Pac/Mayweather not fighting Martinez is a duck.

Is this concept really so hard to understand? Pac and Floyd aren't even big welterweights, and only in his last couple fights has Floyd been an average sized middleweight, and just barely. Pac won't even come in above 145 at a weigh in. Everyone who says these two are ducking the middleweight champion, who himself understands that the two are not his size, is a f***ing moron and just needs to shut up. If they want to make the fight, all the power to them and I'll be excited. But they deserve no criticism if they don't. I am not going to lie, I would love to see Pacquiao or Floyd fight Martinez. But the truth of the matter is, if they don't fight Martinez, you can't exactly use it against them. They are in two completely different divisions. And like you said, Pacquiao and Floyd are not big WW's.

There is no real competition for May and Pac besides each other below Martinez. Tbh I think both can and probably would beat Sergio so both are fair fights.

I understand some people are just trying to get someone in their with Pac and Floyd who can beat them, but come on. The only fight we should be criticizing these two for not making is with each other. Agreed. I do not understand why this fight is so hard to put together.. Supposedly Arum is trying to get in contact with Floyd's team.. how much of that is the truth, I don't know. I do know that this fight has to happen. Could you even imagine the hype this fight would bring?? People are talking about the 1.1million ppv orders for Pac/Marg... this fight would absolutely demolish that... It will be great for boxing.

Martinez should concentrate on the middleweight division and unify it. Mayweather certainly won't fight him, that's for sure and Pacquiao won't fight him. He could also move up to the super middleweight division in the next two years where there will definitely be huge fights there, but I can see that being a problem as Showtime has that division prity much to themselves and Martinez is loyal to HBO. Martinez vs Pirog Martinez vs Sturm Martinez vs Ward Martinez vs Bute Martinez vs Dirrell ^^ All sound like decent fights.

he a catch weight middleweight,lol. he can be as much a light middleweight as he can middleweight. floyd is bigger and more likely to make light middleweight properly. pac is a light welter/welter.

Is this concept really so hard to understand? Pac and Floyd aren't even big welterweights, and only in his last couple fights has Floyd been an average sized middleweight, and just barely. Pac won't even come in above 145 at a weigh in. Everyone who says these two are ducking the middleweight champion, who himself understands that the two are not his size, is a f***ing moron and just needs to shut up. If they want to make the fight, all the power to them and I'll be excited. But they deserve no criticism if they don't. With all the big fights happening so close together, NSB is lit up with stupidity. Martinez is a legit middle weight. Get over it. Martinez' rising stock is the perfect weapon for Pac/Floyd haters.

couldnt agree more. well said