Martinez is almost the EXACT same size as Margarito.

Pacquiao ducks anyone with decent BOXING ability. Oscar and Cotto both had better then decent boxing ability.

Pacquiao will be licking his chops tonight maybe if JMM goes through a brutal war with Katsidis or if Berto struggles at all with this Hernandez guy. I'll bet that neither one of those guys will win as conclusively against their foes the way that Martinez did against Williams and Pacquiao will jump all over them if he sees anything he can exploit. I actually hope Berto gives a beatdown on Hernandez, so when the Pac-Berto comes off, there will be no more excuses.

Pacquiao will be licking his chops tonight maybe if JMM goes through a brutal war with Katsidis or if Berto struggles at all with this Hernandez guy. I'll bet that neither one of those guys will win as conclusively against their foes the way that Martinez did against Williams and Pacquiao will jump all over them if he sees anything he can exploit.

Who cares what they said before the fight? Why not Martinez now? Why not Mayweather-Martinez now? Who cares if PBF is on vacation, he rested enough.

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Who cares what they said before the fight? Why not Martinez now?

I can see where Burner's comin' from, but his analogy of Margs and Martinez's almost same size is what threw his point off the window. Coz the others are right, if Martinez is the exact same size as Marg, then Sergio wouldn't have a problem going down 150. That just about squashes the whole point of this thread. To be fair my friend the thread title says "almost".

No. It's common knowledge that even b4 Martinez vs Williams that Manny's next fight will be against a WW. Even DiBella acknowledges this as well. Nice try webb........I'll give you that...lol Now that is FACT!

Pac just did that in his last 2 fights. Nice try. Clottey was about 165. Margarito was 165 (+) Martinez was 168 Save it. Even after his dominating performance against Marg, Pac got seriously hurt after the fight and has immediately stated that he would never fight above 147 anymore.. And this was before Martinez KO Williams..

For now, yea, for now. They will wait till the guy loses or fades, THEN fight him and hype it up like its the fight of the century. No. It's common knowledge that even b4 Martinez vs Williams that Manny's next fight will be against a WW. Even DiBella acknowledges this as well. Nice try webb........I'll give you that...lol

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And he weighed 168 on fight night. Margarito was 167. So this is just about cherry picking Pac knowing that Martinez isnt some slow, flat footed face first brawler he can just dart in and out on. Like I been saying it has nothing to do wth color. Its about style. Manny ducks certain styles. He wants nothing to do with Martinez unless hes drained. Disgrace. But Martinez is not Black!!! He's not qualified for Pac's next opponent!! Pwill got KTFO!!! Mosley's old!!! Bhop's retired Grandpa!! Berto's Green & he's Haitian!! There's no more Black American fighters for Pac but Floyd!! Leave Martinez Nuts for now!! We want Floyd!!

For now, yea, for now. They will wait till the guy loses or fades, THEN fight him and hype it up like its the fight of the century. That's why Manny tried to get a fight with Floyd. It's not Manny's fault that Floyd went on vacation. You can't blame Manny on this.

even before these call outs Manny/Arum said he will fight a smaller guy (WW) next. Even Dibella acknowledges this and thats why he said they can make it in the future. Also Arum stated that he is turning down the fight, for now, because Manny will be going to 147 in his next bout. Notice he said "for now" and not no way in hell like he did back in 09 when they ask him about Margarito vs Pacquiao. This fight is gonna happen and I don't see what makes anyone think Manny will duck this guy. For now, yea, for now. They will wait till the guy loses or fades, THEN fight him and hype it up like its the fight of the century.

mike tyson is even smaller than margarito...use your brain dumb kid Yup, if Tyson was still around, Manny would have to fight him next because Tyson was also around 5'10" ....... lol The difference is that Martinez has been fighting at 154 for a major part of his career and now has been fighting at 160 and most importantly WINNING at 160. What this means is that Martinez has been used to getting hit and hitting these big guys and KOing some as he did against Williams (including knock down in the first fight) Margarito on the other hand was a career 147 fighter. To boot, Manny faced Margo at 150. So then perhaps if Martinez would come down to 150, one can make more of statement as to why not. Still, Manny's team said this during training camp that Manny should come back down to 147 as 154 is too high for him. BUT if Manny thinks he can, go for it. If they say they can't do 154 then why do you guys want to force the issue? Manny tried at 150 (not 154) now they need to decide. What's so hard to understand?

Team Pac also said they would take full drug testing. Turns out it wasnt true. Dont buy everything they sell kid. How do you feel about his 147 pound fight being against JMM? Look where it got your boy Floyd, with all his antics just to fight Pac. Sh!tting his career. I know you're just frustrated since your boy got manhandled. You just want to see Pac get beaten up so that you can finally release all those anger. :lol:

So they turned down 155 only to want JMM at 147? Un fukking real. Sergio can come fight Pac for the 154lb title. What are you going to say when Pac carves up sergio's sexy face? The only thing Sergio has is size, once again it will be the ONLY thing he has. Just like Pac's previous opponents he will be systematically sliced to pieces. Who has Sergio beaten? Pavlik and Williams? These guys were fringe contenders (i don't care about belts) at best and never became anything more than hype. People forget Sergio lost to Maragrito albeit green (and no i don't think it was the wraps back then either). Pac is more athletic and moves better, punches sharper, has better attack angles and is overall much better than sergio. Sergio may look fast but when he's put next to Pac he'll look like he's an old man always one step behind. So bring on the fight I say, looks like floyd ain't fighting and Pwill will have to retire so we need something to look forward to.

No Ceilings must have comprehension problems when Team Pac said they'll fight at 147 next and that was a week before Martinez knocks the sh!t out of PWill. That's what happens when hate fills up your entire brain. Let Pac fight at 147 against Floyd if it's still possible or Berto maybe after that if Pac wins we can talk about Sergio vs Pac. Team Pac also said they would take full drug testing. Turns out it wasnt true. Dont buy everything they sell kid. How do you feel about his 147 pound fight being against JMM?

No Ceilings must have comprehension problems when Team Pac said they'll fight at 147 next and that was a week before Martinez knocks the sh!t out of PWill. That's what happens when hate fills up your entire brain. Let Pac fight at 147 against Floyd if it's still possible or Berto maybe after that if Pac wins we can talk about Sergio vs Pac.

you plan on paying me my points my dude? we had a bet of 250K, remember? Manny doesn't duck anyone neither he already said he would fight Martinez, albeit a ridiculous catch weight but he already expressed an interest in fighting Sergio that can be built off of. I don't see how Manny Pacquiao can come across as ducking anyone, I'm against the fact that he doesn't want to take the tests but other than that Manny Pacquiao is 110% balls even before these call outs Manny/Arum said he will fight a smaller guy (WW) next. Even Dibella acknowledges this and thats why he said they can make it in the future. Also Arum stated that he is turning down the fight, for now, because Manny will be going to 147 in his next bout. Notice he said "for now" and not no way in hell like he did back in 09 when they ask him about Margarito vs Pacquiao. This fight is gonna happen and I don't see what makes anyone think Manny will duck this guy.