I honest think pwill was stupid for demanding a 158 lbs catchweight. martinez can still make 154 lbs. 158 lbs doesn't really benefit him or martinez. it's like asking that they both get water before the fight.
there's only a couple reasons imho why pwill would ask for a catchweight:
1) pwill or his team are trying to fool the public that he can still make 147 lbs
2) pwill or his team think they are big shots and are trying to dictate terms
3) pwill or his team are worried cause pwill got rocked last time at 160 lbs and think that 2 lbs is gonna weaken martinez
what's your take?
u right man pacquiao gets ATG credit with his catchweights
Julio Cesar Chavez fought for Whitaker's welterweight championship at a catch weight. You going to rip him?
I think everyone should ask for catchweights now since Pacquiao seems to be getting good reception from doing it. Maybe Williams will gain some fans by asking for catchweights especially in title fights.
u right man pacquiao gets ATG credit with his catchweights
I honest think pwill was stupid for demanding a 158 lbs catchweight. martinez can still make 154 lbs. 158 lbs doesn't really benefit him or martinez. it's like asking that they both get water before the fight.
there's only a couple reasons imho why pwill would ask for a catchweight:
1) pwill or his team are trying to fool the public that he can still make 147 lbs
2) pwill or his team think they are big shots and are trying to dictate terms
3) pwill or his team are worried cause pwill got rocked last time at 160 lbs and think that 2 lbs is gonna weaken martinez
what's your take?
Bargaining chip they tried to hold out for more $$ that may not have happened so they say 158 plus Williams was on the canvas last time out so wants a possibly weaker Martinez.
Why did Pacman ask for catch weight against Cotto yet allowed bigger Clottey to weigh in at 1547?
What? :thinking:
Anyways there is nothing wrong with this catch-weight fight.
you guys are already discredit his win ok..did u discredit pacroids 145 and 150 catchweights
I'm not discrediting pwill's victory (which isn't a foregone conclusion)... I'm asking why the catchweight when it's unnecessary. neither guy are true 160 lbers. both are simply exceptional 154 lbers.
I think Williams trains harder than Martinez does regardless though and that may be a factor in the fight tonight is that Williams may outlast Martinez if it becomes a battle of attrition. I still think Martinez has the power advantage though even though we saw that sick vid of Paul Williams' training.
I agree. martinez takes rounds off and that he's the bigger puncher in this fight.
I made the comment in the compubox numbers post by bigpoppa that williams throws a lot of punches, but martinez is by far more accurate.
if pwill can increase his accuracy without sacrificing his output he wins.
if martinez can increase his output (even by jsut a little), without sacrificing his accuracy, then he wins.
I just wanna know what they still say he's 6'1..lol
This guys gotta be like 6'3 or 6'4
And as far as the catchweight..because he's puzzy..he doesn't want Martinez to have the full 160lb strength..I can't believe he even went as far as to ask for a catchweight yet brags about supposedly having 3 weight classes shook...pffft!!
Paul Williams is a scam!
exactly, he got three divisions shook but aint fighting in none of the three tonight :rofl:
i asked the same question in one of the threads several days ago. It doesnt serve any purpose, unless people think Martinez was weight drained during the weigh in. I don't think it is significant enough to affect Martinez, if that is the intention of williams.
I think Williams trains harder than Martinez does regardless though and that may be a factor in the fight tonight is that Williams may outlast Martinez if it becomes a battle of attrition. I still think Martinez has the power advantage though even though we saw that sick vid of Paul Williams' training.
But, I don't think that this will have any real barring on the fight.
exactly. that's why I think it was a dumb ass move asking for 2 lbs cause it doesn't have any real bearing on the fight.
both of them are 154 lbers, 2 pounds under 160 lbs doesn't mean jack shiit. Now if pwill wanted to fight pavlik at 158 lbs, now that would definitely swing the odds in his favor cause pavlik is having problems making 160 lbs.
that's why I think it's either reason #1 (trying to make it seem like pwill isn't a big guy) or reason #2 (they think they are bigshots).
I think that Williams was hoping that it could potentially drain Martinez and get him to be the smaller man in there. Because, realistically, Martinez has not only fought the bigger competition. He's bfought the better competition, in terms of the big guys on their resumes.
So, he's hoping that he can get him a little drained, considering Williams has made 154 pounds more recently. Psychologically, he hopes it will get in Martinez' head as well.
But, I don't think that this will have any real barring on the fight.
I told you all this "most feared man" was all a damn lie. The most feared man asking for a catchweight?? Give me a break lol.
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nuff said
I told you all this "most feared man" was all a damn lie. The most feared man asking for a catchweight?? Give me a break lol.
Margarito ducked a rematch with him. What are you gonna say? That he petitioned for a mandatory shot? Lol. Yeah a mandatory shot for his vacant belt like Cotto was waiting for. And I still respect Margarito more than a lot of other people do but I refuse up to this day to put the blame on Williams for that rematch not happening.
I told you all this "most feared man" was all a damn lie. The most feared man asking for a catchweight?? Give me a break lol.
Damn who's that in your sig Chicano?..
And I agree with this entire post..I hope Martinez pulls it thru this time and doesn't get robbed (119-110 lmfao!!)
Why did Pacman ask for catch weight against Cotto yet allowed bigger Clottey to weigh in at 1547?
you don't get to use that excuse when its convenient for you.
I just wanna know what they still say he's 6'1..lol
This guys gotta be like 6'3 or 6'4
And as far as the catchweight..because he's puzzy..he doesn't want Martinez to have the full 160lb strength..I can't believe he even went as far as to ask for a catchweight yet brags about supposedly having 3 weight classes shook...pffft!!
Paul Williams is a scam!