Anyone hear HBO point out Pacquiao fights fighters when they are past prime?

The thing is, all these guys were prime like 5 years ago. It's like if a guy loses one fight, he is shot and past prime. They are the BIGGEST NAMES out there that can bring in the money. I can't see why it's so hard to rationalize the idea that in order to guarantee a boxer a 15 million dollar payday, he needs to fight someone with fans that can bring in the money to pay the 15 million dollars. These undefeated guys coming u have like 5,000 fans in the entire world and they can't even fill the local flea market much less the MGM. So who is Pac to fight then? Look at his resume and tell me that the names on there don't pop out at you. I understand the argument but the reality is he has few choices to fight. Same thing with Floyd, he made himsef a boxing star so to speak, so the fans won't accept him fighting a relative rookie just because that guy is in his prime. Plus, Floyd wants to make 20 million for the fight too, how's that supposed to happen when his opponent has no fans? When Shane Mosley, Joshua Clottey, and David Diaz get more than 5,000 fans feel free to let me know.

Clottey was Manny's primest fight above 140,but Clottey never ever really threw any punches,his other top rank brothers came off some serious beatings,that's all.

Broken Record... BTW I say Hatton was still in his physical prime. He was messed up becuz he was trying to fight the new style he was being taught by Floyd Sr. Otherwise I don't see how he was out of his prime.

All the fighters who face pac raise their game. Pac fought them when they were closer to their prime than manny was. People should slate JMM for fighting Pac at 135, or people should have a go at barrera and morales for not fighting pac now, and having fought pac only when he was wet behind the ears.

Isn't it funny how the TS is talking about how HBO is questioning PAC's opponents, yet we have people here already talking about Mayweather. Shouldn't you be talking bad about Jim, Max, and Emmanuel. This is going 50 pages.

You should ask yourself how many fighters near 35 did floyd fight?

HATTON.....BEST PERFORMANCE ....AGAINST WHO?....WHAT FIGHT ARE U REFERRING TO? HE STRUGGLED IN HIS FIGHT BEFORE FACING PAC.!. I STOPPED READING THERE. You pactards just dont stop..... Hatton struggled against Paulie Malignaggi?? I remember Hatton basically destroying him for 12 rounds. Pactards don't stop,but flomos do worst.

Fighting guys past their prime>>>Retiring to avoid fighting guys in their prime.

I said asked you all this a long time ago. Some people said good observation others said it was b.s, just hate. Out of his last lets say 6-7 big ppv fights which of these fighters would you say were still in their physical prime? Antonio Margarito, Miguel Cotto, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrera, and Erik Morales. I would say Marquez in the rematch was still in his physical prime and Morales even after being in tough fights still had a good amount left. Of these two fights you could argue Marquez won the rematch and we all saw Morales beat Pacquiao in a clear decision. So where does that leave Margarito? This happened after the hand wrap controversy and the beating by Shane Mosley. He fought Cotto after coming off that hellacious beating by Margarito Ricky Hatton was damaged goods after the Mayweather fight. His life has spiraled out of control. De La Hoya, shot, past prime, and weight drained. To me,only Oscar,Morales in the third fight and maybe Margo where what you can call shot. Cotto beat Clottey and Foreman by tko since he get beat by Margo,I don't think he was,is shot. Hatton previously beat Malignaggi. In our days,when you lost a fight by tko.You are shot.Doesn't work like that. Of course after 3 fights with Manny,Morales was shot. Past his prime means nothing,Hopkins was supposed to be over the hill,but the best Hopkins I ever saw was post 40. You can deny the three best WW where Cotto,Mosley and Clottey (they all beat Berto and co) and Manny fought 2 of them,and this being BASICALLY a batamweight midget. I agree Manny could(should maybe) have fight Mosley after his big win over Margo. But doesnt mean he is a ducker,and by the way,you would say Mosley was shot.

How do you really determine if a boxer is already past his prime?? Ricky Hatton may have suffered his first loss vs Floyd but he went on to retain the lightwelterweight title vs Lazcano and Malignaggi before fighting Pacquiao. Cotto may have lost against Margarito but he successfully defended his WBO welterweight title vs Jennings and Clottey. In fact, he is now WBA light middleweight champion. Clottey was never a boxer who is past his prime, he always gives his best in every fight except that against Pacquiao when he couldn't bring himself to open himself for Pacquiao's attacks. Margarito despite his loss against Mosley was never past his prime, except that he was suspended for a year. How could he have a good comeback when you're basically grounded in not fighting for a year? Despite his defeat against Pacquiao, he was able to bring damage to Pacquiao. Prompting Pacquiao's team not to let him fight anymore at 154lbs. What is really our gauge in determining a fighter being past his prime?

hatton was coming off his best ever performance, just because a boxer loses does not mean they are finished Cotto was in his best shape Margo was near if not at his best, the fight showed this, his conditioning was excellent marquez and morales (2nd) were near their best as well clottey again the same as the above why do people always and I mean always have to discredit a fighters win? HATTON.....BEST PERFORMANCE ....AGAINST WHO?....WHAT FIGHT ARE U REFERRING TO? HE STRUGGLED IN HIS FIGHT BEFORE FACING PAC.!. I STOPPED READING THERE. You pactards just dont stop.....

Out of all his big wins the only one i give him full credit for is the first barrera fight. I hate when people say he fights for legacy. No he doesn't just like other fighters he fights for money he just makes you think he fights for his legacy.

hatton was coming off his best ever performance, just because a boxer loses does not mean they are finished Cotto was in his best shape Margo was near if not at his best, the fight showed this, his conditioning was excellent marquez and morales (2nd) were near their best as well clottey again the same as the above why do people always and I mean always have to discredit a fighters win?

No matter how much you take the mickey out of Pac, it is much easier to do it with floyd.

all of that may be true but the important things that make manny so special is that he EXCEEDS our expectations...that's what is making him seem so invincible... we picked him to beat hatton, maybe cotto, margarito and clottey the thing that makes his victories so special is THE WAY he did it he ran through all of them, he took out 90% of the toughest/best welterweights like they were nothing in back to back to back fights past prime, coming of defeats, weight drained....that may all be true but the fact of the matter is while we expect manny to win, he takes it to another level who predicted he would handle cotto clottey hatton margarito SO EASILY... that's what makes manny special, the ease of how he is doing it Its called Roids!

The thing is, all these guys were prime like 5 years ago. It's like if a guy loses one fight, he is shot and past prime. They are the BIGGEST NAMES out there that can bring in the money. I can't see why it's so hard to rationalize the idea that in order to guarantee a boxer a 15 million dollar payday, he needs to fight someone with fans that can bring in the money to pay the 15 million dollars. These undefeated guys coming u have like 5,000 fans in the entire world and they can't even fill the local flea market much less the MGM. So who is Pac to fight then? Look at his resume and tell me that the names on there don't pop out at you. I understand the argument but the reality is he has few choices to fight. Same thing with Floyd, he made himsef a boxing star so to speak, so the fans won't accept him fighting a relative rookie just because that guy is in his prime. Plus, Floyd wants to make 20 million for the fight too, how's that supposed to happen when his opponent has no fans?

Personally i have grown to like and respect Manny. I dont particularly believe what i wrote. I am just playing devil's advocate. Thoughts? all of that may be true but the important things that make manny so special is that he EXCEEDS our expectations...that's what is making him seem so invincible... we picked him to beat hatton, maybe cotto, margarito and clottey the thing that makes his victories so special is THE WAY he did it he ran through all of them, he took out 90% of the toughest/best welterweights like they were nothing in back to back to back fights past prime, coming of defeats, weight drained....that may all be true but the fact of the matter is while we expect manny to win, he takes it to another level who predicted he would handle cotto clottey hatton margarito SO EASILY... that's what makes manny special, the ease of how he is doing it

Mannys next fight will be Shane Mosley, your theory Is confirmed, of course if he beats Mosley HB will consider it the greatest win ever!

Personally i have grown to like and respect Manny. I dont particularly believe what i wrote. I am just playing devil's advocate. Thoughts?