I think Manny is on PEDS.

certain minerals and natural supplements if used in the right way can almost mimic growth hormones so this thread is a fail. He has a specialist mixing these brews up, totally legally.

I AM READY FOR ALL THE FLAME FROM PAC TARDS, but REAL boxing fans hear me out!!! No Joke. Alex Ariza came into his camp right around the time of 2008, when Manny was getting ready to fight Marquez for the 2nd time. He went to WAR with Marquez who is a lot smaller than mayweather, cotto, clottey, cheato. Manny didn't break Marquez's face lol, he got rocked by a counter left hook also. And during that night I believe manny weighed around 145-147ish? So lets fast forward....ppl are saying Manny has always weighed around that much..EXCEPT now he is RAMPAGING guys, like Cotto , cheato, knocking out guys with 1 punch who had decent chins. It dosn't make sense. I also read somewhere that Pacquaio benched 315x 1 before his fight against Hatton. YEAH OKAY, if that is the case, that is seriously mad juice. Power lifters at that weight can barely do that and they train all year around for it. Imagine a power lift who just starts putting on gloves and whooping everry1. All I am saying is that..I think Alex is behind all this stuff, Manny's power has seriously gone up 300%. His fighting style is the same, look at all his previous fight he is the same guy, in and out, jab sucks, just good in and out movement. Plus he wants 7 day cut offf lo...u can do EPO up to 5 days..and when someone is small liek Manny, He can sweat off whatever is in his system on the night of the fight. Also the tougher the competition it seems Pacman performs so much better, like against Clottey it was kind of boring he looked human but ppl knew Clottey wasnt gonna throw back. Against Cotto and Marg, man..he compeltely just walked through everything and destroyed them. Manny please take drug test and fight Mayweather. I know I will get 10 red k's but watever. Im with you on this....Ill also take some red ...no problem. Something is not right.

i thought pac only won against Oscar cuz Oscar weight drained himself I thought Pac won against Cotto becuz Cotto wasn't the same after Margarito. I thought Pac won against Clottey cuz Clottey didnt throw punches and it was a fix fight. I thought Pac won against Margarito becuz Margarito is too slow. and i thought Hatton lost becuz of this add to that all the other boxers who got caught taking drugs like toney, vargas and others especially mosley who was using dope from balco the leading dope maker before and yet didn't turn into superhuman like what the ts is talking about..ts need some common sense.

First off, Ariza is not a mad scientist who discovered the perfect PEDS. Khan is also one of Ariza's client but he ain't like Pac. Pacquiao is rampaging in WW division since he doesn't need to lose too much weight during the training and he can eat anything he wants, so that he'll only worry/focus on his training. That's why coach Roach can set most of the training to developing Pac's footwork, right hand and other aspects that needs development while maintaining his speed. Pac is one of the hardest working guy during training so it should not be a surprise why he's that good. Plus he maintains a healthy lifestyle outside the ring. If you've only use your brain before posting a thread like this one, you probably figured out the answer . Flomos and their imagination... What do expect from low IQ individuals.

First off, Ariza is not a mad scientist who discovered the perfect PEDS. Khan is also one of Ariza's client but he ain't like Pac. Pacquiao is rampaging in WW division since he doesn't need to lose too much weight during the training and he can eat anything he wants, so that he'll only worry/focus on his training. That's why coach Roach can set most of the training to developing Pac's footwork, right hand and other aspects that needs development while maintaining his speed. Pac is one of the hardest working guy during training so it should not be a surprise why he's that good. Plus he maintains a healthy lifestyle outside the ring. If you've only use your brain before posting a thread like this one, you probably figured out the answer .

pac lost before because he was weight drained, in his last fight he fought marg who was weight drained and he lost. common sense.

In short, he's been that good. The right PEDS will do that , we saw Manny at 146 we saw JMM at 144 , which one looks to be on PEDS at the higher weight .

Study shows that those who believe on baseless accusations have low IQs. That is a given with these guys. so obvious pre.. I put that on everything. Most of these flomos have low I.Q.s and that ain't a joke cuz it aint funny. It makes me wonder if the really do believe what they are saying because it just don't make sense. Is it just cuz they love Floyd so much or do they really believe that people take the silly stuff they say and believe seriously?

In short, he's been that good.

I AM READY FOR ALL THE FLAME FROM PAC TARDS, but REAL boxing fans hear me out!!! No Joke. Alex Ariza came into his camp right around the time of 2008, when Manny was getting ready to fight Marquez for the 2nd time. He went to WAR with Marquez who is a lot smaller than mayweather, cotto, clottey, cheato. Manny didn't break Marquez's face lol, he got rocked by a counter left hook also. And during that night I believe manny weighed around 145-147ish? So lets fast forward....ppl are saying Manny has always weighed around that much..EXCEPT now he is RAMPAGING guys, like Cotto , cheato, knocking out guys with 1 punch who had decent chins. It dosn't make sense. I also read somewhere that Pacquaio benched 315x 1 before his fight against Hatton. YEAH OKAY, if that is the case, that is seriously mad juice. Power lifters at that weight can barely do that and they train all year around for it. Imagine a power lift who just starts putting on gloves and whooping everry1. All I am saying is that..I think Alex is behind all this stuff, Manny's power has seriously gone up 300%. His fighting style is the same, look at all his previous fight he is the same guy, in and out, jab sucks, just good in and out movement. Plus he wants 7 day cut offf lo...u can do EPO up to 5 days..and when someone is small liek Manny, He can sweat off whatever is in his system on the night of the fight. Also the tougher the competition it seems Pacman performs so much better, like against Clottey it was kind of boring he looked human but ppl knew Clottey wasnt gonna throw back. Against Cotto and Marg, man..he compeltely just walked through everything and destroyed them. Manny please take drug test and fight Mayweather. I know I will get 10 red k's but watever. You just gotta have common sense and look at stuff logically rather than making excuses for what your mind can't fathom. Pacquiao even at his lighter weights has always come in at the 140-148 mark after he hydrates. Obviously you will be healthier if you don't have to make weight anymore and you build some muscle you could not before because of weight restrictions. All in all Pac isn't that much bigger. Punch resistance increases, look at cotto at 140 vs. 147. Look @ manny getting koed by singsurat, Torrecampo and kd by nedal hussien and Rakkiatgym. Why couldn't Erik Morales, Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrera who are legend in the sport do what these lesser and much lighter fighters could. Pac was at a healthier weight when fought those guys and is at an even healthier weight now. Now add in the fact that does not need to dehydrate himself with his new skill set; right hand, improved balance, more muscular less dehydrated frame and you get a better fighter with better durability, more power, better technique. You have to look at it logically rather then resorting to imaginative excuses that discredit a man. You just have to believe that humans can accomplish great things and it happens all the time. There is no other reason for it but hard work and determination. They don't make excuses for other peoples greatness and you shouldn't either. Learn the sport too obviously you don't know the science of boxing. 7 days is good enough. Fighters are tapering off and slowing down to almost nothing during the last 7 days and would not be the best time to do Peds. Pac can't bench no 315 that is totally made up.

Sorry to burst your bubble---at 130 Marquez considers Pacquiao punch harder than Mayweather's...you must realize this--how many times did Pacquiao hit Marquez compared with the bigger guys his fought? He hit them a lot and you must also factor in that Pacquiao struggled to make 130 when he fought Marquez--decreasing his physical attributes including his chin. As for Hatton---that dude was asking to get KO'd the way he trained--losing crazy amounts of weights in between fights.

PEDS give you super human strenght and punching power, they make you faster and also a much better boxer. :nonono:

Styles make fights, put Manny in with JMM again at 140 and I can guarantee you he won't look as good as he did against his last 6 opponents I can guarantee you that. 2 years ago maybe, not now thou. 140 JMM won't last with Pac. It would get stopped in 10 due to consistent damage.

If PEDS can do this then why aren't fighters doing it? It turns ordinary fighters to Supermen. Why didn't Toney/Mosley turn Superhuman? U f*cking crazy. When Mosley fought Oscar the 2nd time he was a damn monster

Manny's always been a great athlete, his genes are special. He lost 2 fights out of 50 plus just because he was starved. He lost the other because he was outboxed against Morales but his boxing is far superior than it was then. People never give dude his credit for being a boxer, instead he is just labeled a brawler with speed. Pac is a very complete boxer now, he isn't on PEDS, he's on his A-game.

Like what? circuit training? lolz Go to barnes and noble, read a page a day so youre not overwhelmed. Until then, eat your beef, chicken and rice so you too can be superman.

Tony is not a defensive fighter! The guy eats 5 punches just to land one or two. Tony is a stalker. Until Pac is found guilty stop assuming he is on PED's! Why cant it be that he is just that damn good? "Maybe Pacquaio has top of the line PEDS lol, Mosley is considered a monster, but look how nasty he looked against Mayweather, he landed 2 lucky punches in a matter of 12 rounds. And Toney is a defensive fighter...he dosnt' brawl liek manny does."

haha, its hilarious you think it was that simple. And How do you know it was just a few tweaks? Alot of work went into changing the way he works out and what he eats. There's a full ****in book on it. Do you think its a 1 page book just says, "eat small meals, eat beef, chicken, rice. Superman!" I can see why you think he's on peds with your mentality. I would too if I think he's jsut eating beef chicken and rice, "and thats it" haha. Good thing im not as dumb and naive as you. Like what? circuit training? lolz

obviously boxers watch their diet..duh..but how can a little change up in a diet and excerise make you run down guys so much bigger than you. in 08 marquez who is SMALLER and cant hit as hard , gave him the fight of his life. And now with a few exercise tweaks and a "diet" change he is super man..come on man. You think Alex ariza is the only trainer out there in the world who knows how to work somebody out? please bro. haha, its hilarious you think it was that simple. And How do you know it was just a few tweaks? Alot of work went into changing the way he works out and what he eats. There's a full ****in book on it. Do you think its a 1 page book just says, "eat small meals, eat beef, chicken, rice. Superman!" I can see why you think he's on peds with your mentality. I would too if I think he's jsut eating beef chicken and rice, "and thats it" haha. Good thing im not as dumb and naive as you.

actually, yes it does. Ask Roy Jones or Benard Hopkins if theyve ever drank alcohol. Why does Bhop eat Vegan, because he just enjoys eating bland food? What type of person watches their diet under a magnifying glass? an athlete? or a keyboard warrior. Why does Ricky Hatton stop drinking beer and watches his diet a month or two before a fight? If you knew anything about boxing, boxers take that diet very seriously. Since you love floyd though, its a different matter. obviously boxers watch their diet..duh..but how can a little change up in a diet and excerise make you run down guys so much bigger than you. in 08 marquez who is SMALLER and cant hit as hard , gave him the fight of his life. And now with a few exercise tweaks and a "diet" change he is super man..come on man. You think Alex ariza is the only trainer out there in the world who knows how to work somebody out? please bro.