And i think Mayweather knows this. Thats why he keeps bringing up Pacquiao being given the fighter of the decade award. He is bitter towards boxing for not giving him the award. And for this sole reason, i believe the fight will get made because Floyd needs Manny more than Manny needs him.
As of right now, pacquiao will go down as the GREATER/ MORE ACCOMPLISHED fighter. Mayweather will go down as the MORE TALENTED/ SKILLED fighter. Mayweather has to fight and beat pacquiao to surpass him. No other fighter will do.
This is such bull****, its beyond retarded. The Public isn't pressuring Pacquiao to take the test, the public is pressuring Floyd to fight Pacquiao. There is no cloud of suspicion over Manny. Stop being delusional. ESPN, MSNBC, YAHOO, EXPERTS, PUNDITS, ANALYSTS aren't pushing out articles upon articles calling for Manny to take the tests, but pushing out articles upon articles calling Floyd a COWARD for not fighting Manny.
And its the PUBLIC who defines your legacy. Not fanboys.
truth right here!
This is such bull****, its beyond retarded. The Public isn't pressuring Pacquiao to take the test, the public is pressuring Floyd to fight Pacquiao. There is no cloud of suspicion over Manny. Stop being delusional. ESPN, MSNBC, YAHOO, EXPERTS, PUNDITS, ANALYSTS aren't pushing out articles upon articles calling for Manny to take the tests, but pushing out articles upon articles calling Floyd a COWARD for not fighting Manny.
And its the PUBLIC who defines your legacy. Not fanboys.
lmao give it up brah. these guys live in their own world:
public = only mayweather fans
real boxing fans = only mayweather fans
official drug testing = mayweather's terms
But they clearly avoided Mosley. The guy was willing to come down to 140, but they never gave him the time or day. Now after his loss to Mayweather and his poor outing against Mora, they want him at 147?
Just doesnt make sense.
If people are gonna talk about Floyd avoiding Margarito, its only fair to bring up Pac avoiding Mosley. No bias.
it's not the same thing at all. if manny and mosley had been in the same division for years while both were top fighters and never fought like margarito and mayweather then it would be a duck but they weren't.
manny didn't have his first real welterweight fight till november 2009. the oscar fight was supposed to be a one off and manny was currently at 140. mosley lost to mayweather in may of 2010 and was already scheduled to fight berto in january so a pac fight wasn't possible during that period. yes pac could have fought mosley instead of cotto because both are good fighters but imo cotto is much better than a 38 year old mosley. it's not like pac fought baldomir or judah instead of mosley.
This is such bull****, its beyond retarded. The Public isn't pressuring Pacquiao to take the test, the public is pressuring Floyd to fight Pacquiao. There is no cloud of suspicion over Manny. Stop being delusional. ESPN, MSNBC, YAHOO, EXPERTS, PUNDITS, ANALYSTS aren't pushing out articles upon articles calling for Manny to take the tests, but pushing out articles upon articles calling Floyd a COWARD for not fighting Manny.
And its the PUBLIC who defines your legacy. Not fanboys.
True that....
If they dont fight because Manny wont be tested OST , he will always be under a cloud in any debate for years to come , whenever somebody says Manny did this or that somebody will bring uo the PEDS issue ,,,,,
For fuk sake Manny take the dam testing and fight Mayweather , we dont want golden oldies JMM or Mosley , Manny has had his 2 exhibitions now we want Pac vs May nothing else will do .
Funny how in the past few days articles from ESPN, Yahoo, and every other credible Boxing website and writer have written an article of the greatness of Pacquiao without the discussion of OST testing..
Maybe to you he will always be under a cloud but to the boxing writers and historians who have followed the sport longer then both of us together, PACQUIAO WILL GO DOWN AS AN ALL TIME GREAT, NO DOUBTS ABOUT THAT
This is such bull****, its beyond retarded. The Public isn't pressuring Pacquiao to take the test, the public is pressuring Floyd to fight Pacquiao. There is no cloud of suspicion over Manny. Stop being delusional. ESPN, MSNBC, YAHOO, EXPERTS, PUNDITS, ANALYSTS aren't pushing out articles upon articles calling for Manny to take the tests, but pushing out articles upon articles calling Floyd a COWARD for not fighting Manny.
And its the PUBLIC who defines your legacy. Not fanboys.
Excellent post and sometimes the reality needs to be told to flomo, pac haters.
In 50 years time, Pac will be considered on a level with SRR and Ali and the talk of roids will be well and gone.
Floyds fans will always make out Pac is on roids, but when has their opinions meant anything? When has anyone cared about what flomos think?
Pac is already the greater fighter.. I dont hear any other boxing historian or writer comparing Floyd to the likes of any ATG's..
Its more like, why is Floyd fighting this person or why isnt he fighting him...
Pac gobbles Floyds career.. NO IFS ANDS OR BUTS...
It keeps Pac busy. Pac isnt retired so he will fight. I dont know if Pac ducked SSM, he fights anyone. SSM isnt the only one who wanted to fight Pac, he needed to get in line, or pac needed to book a date in his diary with SSM.
But it dont make sense now i agree with you other than some people want to see it. SSM fans want to see him beat Pac.
Yeh i didnt mean Pac ducked him as such, your right the guy would fight anyone and everyone, but his team didnt want the fight. Roach didnt want it, and he thought he'd get away with it because he didnt think Floyd would fight him. Had this been another fighter, they would have got crucified, but Pac being Pac it was hardly mentioned.
If they dont fight because Manny wont be tested OST , he will always be under a cloud in any debate for years to come , whenever somebody says Manny did this or that somebody will bring uo the PEDS issue ,,,,,
For fuk sake Manny take the dam testing and fight Mayweather , we dont want golden oldies JMM or Mosley , Manny has had his 2 exhibitions now we want Pac vs May nothing else will do .
This is such bull****, its beyond retarded. The Public isn't pressuring Pacquiao to take the test, the public is pressuring Floyd to fight Pacquiao. There is no cloud of suspicion over Manny. Stop being delusional. ESPN, MSNBC, YAHOO, EXPERTS, PUNDITS, ANALYSTS aren't pushing out articles upon articles calling for Manny to take the tests, but pushing out articles upon articles calling Floyd a COWARD for not fighting Manny.
And its the PUBLIC who defines your legacy. Not fanboys.
It keeps Pac busy. Pac isnt retired so he will fight. I dont know if Pac ducked SSM, he fights anyone. SSM isnt the only one who wanted to fight Pac, he needed to get in line, or pac needed to book a date in his diary with SSM.
But it dont make sense now i agree with you other than some people want to see it. SSM fans want to see him beat Pac.
Yeh i didnt mean Pac ducked him as such, your right the guy would fight anyone and everyone, but his team didnt want the fight. Roach didnt want it, and he thought he'd get away with it because he didnt think Floyd would fight him. Had this been another fighter, they would have got crucified, but Pac being Pac it was hardly mentioned.
But they clearly avoided Mosley. The guy was willing to come down to 140, but they never gave him the time or day. Now after his loss to Mayweather and his poor outing against Mora, they want him at 147?
Just doesnt make sense.
If people are gonna talk about Floyd avoiding Margarito, its only fair to bring up Pac avoiding Mosley. No bias.
It keeps Pac busy. Pac isnt retired so he will fight. I dont know if Pac ducked SSM, he fights anyone. SSM isnt the only one who wanted to fight Pac, he needed to get in line, or pac needed to book a date in his diary with SSM.
But it dont make sense now i agree with you other than some people want to see it. SSM fans want to see him beat Pac.
I think he might just want to complete the triangle theory. Cotto beat SSM. Marge beat Cotto. SSM beat Marge. Its a bit confusing.
Pac wants to simplify it. He beat Cotto, he beat Marge and he might as well complete the full set now.
But they clearly avoided Mosley. The guy was willing to come down to 140, but they never gave him the time or day. Now after his loss to Mayweather and his poor outing against Mora, they want him at 147?
Just doesnt make sense.
If people are gonna talk about Floyd avoiding Margarito, its only fair to bring up Pac avoiding Mosley. No bias.
I think he might just want to complete the triangle theory. Cotto beat SSM. Marge beat Cotto. SSM beat Marge. Its a bit confusing.
Pac wants to simplify it. He beat Cotto, he beat Marge and he might as well complete the full set now.
The only triangle in this is the 3rd easy fight while ducking Floyd , Mosley is done , a win over him now is bullsh!t , Pac had his chance while Mosley was considered to still have it , now that its been shown after Floyd and Mora that Mosley has nothing left you want Pac to fight him ,, you people are so phony .
Plus Floyd fought the guy who Manny ducked, when Mosley was willing to come down to 140, Manny still didn't face him. Now after Floyd destroyed him, they want him at 147?
Makes no sense to me.
I think he might just want to complete the triangle theory. Cotto beat SSM. Marge beat Cotto. SSM beat Marge. Its a bit confusing.
Pac wants to simplify it. He beat Cotto, he beat Marge and he might as well complete the full set now.
If they don't fight each other it marks both their career's. You can say it would hurt Floyd worse but people already view his career as full of black marks. With Manny it is reverse his career is sterling.
If I have a career that has other black marks why really care because what is one more even if it is bigger and bolder but if you have one black mark on an otherwise sterling career there is really no way to gloss over it because it will stick out.
Also no one knows what the future holds and boxing being very much what have you done for me lately it is impossible to tell, I don't see Floyd as being able to retire for a long time (atleast for good) if he can continue winning and beats a couple important guys who knows how people will think of him. I am pretty sure he will be in the sport longer than manny even if Manny is younger just based on their career paths.
Plus Floyd fought the guy who Manny ducked, when Mosley was willing to come down to 140, Manny still didn't face him. Now after Floyd destroyed him, they want him at 147?
Makes no sense to me.
that was'nt the case homeboy....pac had the option to either fight mosely or cotto at that time....and moneywise and legacy wise, cotto was the clearly the better option....and when berto pulled out vs shane, pac was already scheduled to fight clottey....
Plus Floyd fought the guy who Manny ducked, when Mosley was willing to come down to 140, Manny still didn't face him. Now after Floyd destroyed him, they want him at 147?
Makes no sense to me.
No history will see Mayweather as a joke and was so scared that he had to bring up OST testing and PED issue cause he was to much of a puzzy to step in the ring.
Pacman is already rated much higher then Mayweather..
Mayweather going to be remember as the biggest ducker of this era...
hahahahaha, well thats a bit of a ridiculous comment considering he came back and beat the best welterweight in the world in Mosley. If the Pacquiao fight doesnt happen because he goes prison, then he has a genuine excuse. But if all that is avoided, i guarantee the fight gets made.
If they dont fight because Manny wont be tested OST , he will always be under a cloud in any debate for years to come , whenever somebody says Manny did this or that somebody will bring uo the PEDS issue ,,,,,
For fuk sake Manny take the dam testing and fight Mayweather , we dont want golden oldies JMM or Mosley , Manny has had his 2 exhibitions now we want Pac vs May nothing else will do .
No history will see Mayweather as a joke and was so scared that he had to bring up OST testing and PED issue cause he was to much of a puzzy to step in the ring.
Pacman is already rated much higher then Mayweather..
Mayweather going to be remember as the biggest ducker of this era...
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