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Berlin: The former undisputed world middleweight champion ‘Marvelous' Marvin Hagler warns Manny Pacquiao is destined to a similar career fate as his, if Floyd Mayweather won't agree to a legacy-cementing showdown with the Filipino fighter.
Speaking to Gulf News on the sidelines of the ongoing three-day Laureus Academy Forum in Berlin — where 17 living sports legends are meeting to review the direction of the foundation, its next awards ceremony and its stable of social projects worldwide — Hagler said, "His legacy will probably be the same as mine in the sense that he waited around for this guy and he doesn't want to fight."
Like Pacquiao, Hagler was also 32-years-old when in 1987 Sugar Ray Leonard fresh out of retirement like Mayweather, refused to offer Hagler the fight everyone wanted to see.
The only difference was it would have been a re-fight to settle the earlier controversial showdown that saw Leonard steal Hagler's world title with what Hagler still describes as a "pitty-patty", "flashdancy" amateur show.
Leonard landed soft touches for points. Hagler connected fewer, but more crushing blows. Leonard won.
"I hung around for another year hoping Leonard would give me the same opportunity I gave him, unfortunately he didn't. He was playing the same kind of game as Mayweather's doing."
In the public eye
In support of Pacquiao, Hagler praised the Filipino Congressman for doing all the right things by staying active, still fighting and remaining in the public's gaze.
But Hagler believes the ‘Pac-man' only has one more fight left and he can't wait around for Mayweather forever.
"I always used to say you got to fight me now at my best else what you going to say afterwards, you beat an old man?"
Hagler suggested Mayweather's just waiting for Pacquiao to lose before he comes out of the woodwork. But with Pacquiao, the best pound for pound fighter on earth still on winning form with a 12- round points defeat of Antonio Magarito this week, it looks increasingly unlikely.
"Something is a little nervous about that fight. I think its more Mayweather if he wanted to fight he could make it happen tomorrow."
Hagler has resigned himself to the fact that "Pacquiao will just wipe it off and say well I offered it to you and you didn't come out. I'm not hanging around in this game too long so ciao."
This would be a strikingly similar retirement to Hagler's, leaving fight fans divided over the subject for decades to come.
"He won't get that big legacy until the fight with Mayweather comes off. But in time that fades away and people tend to forget. Fans remember me as a fighter a true champion. That Leonard fight don't bother me no more," Hagler mused.
I wish we could have Marvin get more involved with the sport. These new generations of boxing fans don't know just how good he was.
Yup, old school boxing doesn't need any hyping. The fighters fight the best. Proving themselves every time they step in the ring. Marvin is one of them old school who knows what boxing is all about.
Hagler is a traitor to his race supporting Pac over Floyd
Yeah the best ballers are traitors to seems like Kobe and Michael Jordan likes Pac more.. Hmm. maybe they see the best should stick together..
If Marvin Hagler really said this then he needs to shut his simple ass up. Mayweather was going to jail, shocked everyone by getting his sentence delayed, and called Pacquiao out! The reply was we can't cuz we are going to build a new stadium. All of a sudden now that mayweather has moved on there is no more talk about the new stadium. Manny Pacquiao is a PUNK that is most likely on some serious steriods. And IF Marvin really said this, then he is really stupid too.
You calling the great boxer stupid? Think again..
Floyd clearly ducking pac over a 50/50 split is definitely a deal breaker. It is a deal breaker when we know pac is a the global icon.
PAc is ranked 28 in the top athletes of 2012 in the usa while floyd only ranked 48 lol
He recently teamed up with Michael Jordan the great one shows who really commands the Benjamins. He even deserves more than 50/50, but agreed to it just to make it happen. The question is why does Floyd prices himself up? Pac having to be endorsed by Nike and being tied up with the Great
they are salable athletes and are likable. They are loved and watched.. That's were you know they sell! That's the common sign of being a famous salable athlete. You have to be attached to brands.
Pac is doing great coz he is recognized, while FLoyd coz he ain't much of a role model is stinking with no endorsement deal as of late.
Top athletes makes more money doing commercials and brand tie-ups with top brands. Your boy has none of that.. Just shows who is the man.
PAc even has more endorsement in the usa than Floyd.
Major World Titles:
WBC Flyweight World Champion (112 lbs)
IBF Junior Featherweight World Champion (122 lbs)
WBC Super Featherweight World Champion (130 lbs)
WBC Lightweight World Champion (135 lbs)
WBO Welterweight World Champion (147 lbs)
WBC Super Welterweight World Champion (154 lbs)
Minor World Title:
IBO Junior Welterweight World Champion (140 lbs)
Lineal Championship Titles:
Lineal Flyweight World Champion (112 lbs)
The Ring Featherweight World Champion (126 lbs)
The Ring Junior Lightweight World Champion (130 lbs)
The Ring Junior Welterweight World Champion (140 lbs)
Regional/International Titles:
OPBF Flyweight Champion (112 lbs)
WBC Super Bantamweight International Champion (122 lbs)
WBC Super Featherweight International Champion (130 lbs)
Special Titles:
WBC Emeritus Champion
WBC Diamond Champion
WBO Super Champion
International:
2000–09 Boxing Writers Association of America Fighter of the Decade
2000–09 HBO Fighter of the Decade
2006, 2008, and 2009 Boxing Writers Association Fighter of the Year
2006, 2008 and 2009 ESPN Fighter of the Year
2006, 2008, and 2009 The Ring Fighter of the Year
2001–2010 World Boxing Council Boxer of the Decade
2008 Sports Illustrated Boxer of the Year
2008 Yahoo! Sports Fighter of the Year
2008 and 2009 ESPN Star's Champion of Champions
2008 and 2009 World Boxing Council Boxer of the Year
2008, 2009 and 2010 The Ring No.1 Pound-for-Pound (year-end)
2009 Ask Men Most Influential Men (ranked 24th)
2009 ESPN Knockout of the Year (in Round 2 against Ricky Hatton)
2009 ESPY Awards Best Fighter
2009 Forbes Magazine World's Highest-Paid Athletes (ranked 6th)
2009 Sports Illustrated Fighter of the Year
2009 The Ring Knockout of the Year (in Round 2 against Ricky Hatton)
2009 TIME 100 Most Influential People (Heroes and Icons Category)
2009 and 2010 Forbes Magazine Celebrity 100 (ranked 57th and 55th)
2010 Bleacher Report Most Exciting Athletes of All Time (ranked 85th)
2010 World Boxing Organization Fighter of the Year
2010 Yahoo! Sports Boxing's Most Influential (ranked 25th)
The question is who really is ducking here? 50/50 is a fair shake. More than generous enough..
Flomos: "Hagler doesn't know anything about boxing."
Yeah Marvin was the one that thought Floyd wanted Manny to take a test but not Floyd , Marvin is right up with the latest isnt he :)
Everyone can be undefeated if you know when to fake a retirement and vacation.
if you say so
anyway Cotto @ 154 is much better than Cotto at a walking deadman weight of 145
you can be undefeated all you want but names are where it's at.
floyd has names under his belt. the one's that are actually brave enough to get in the ring with him that is.
42-0
Everyone can be undefeated if you know when to fake a retirement and vacation.
you can be undefeated all you want but names are where it's at.
floyd has names under his belt. the one's that are actually brave enough to get in the ring with him that is.
42-0
Joe Calzaghe 46-0 > Floyd 42-0
Don't forget to look at the opposing fighters credentials first.
Names mean everything and Floyd has taken on all of them except for the guy who ducked the May 5th date.
If you wanna talk math how about you add up Floyd's earnings vs Manny's for their fights. Floyd still gets paid more even if his PPV does less buys, it's pathetic how much Arum steals from his puppet. And do people really use all of those useless titles as a way to praise the fraud? You are aware those are all useless right?
42-0
Joe Calzaghe 46-0 > Floyd 42-0
Pac has Nike, HP, KFC, MacDonald > Floyd has only lame soda
Pac is a congresman > Floyd soon will be ex-convict
Pac has 4 lineal and 8 division titles > Floyd has 2 retirements and plenty of vacations
Do the math
If you wanna talk math how about you add up Floyd's earnings vs Manny's for their fights. Floyd still gets paid more even if his PPV does less buys, it's pathetic how much Arum steals from his puppet. And do people really use all of those useless titles as a way to praise the fraud? You are aware those are all useless right?
42-0
Fact is, Floyd is 42-0 #1 p4p spot by all credible boxing sources.
Pacquiao has gotten knocked out in one punch and there's video of it on youtube. He has like what, 5 losses?
Then you can add in all of the Marquez losses and we have a score.
Pac has Nike, HP, KFC, MacDonald > Floyd has only lame soda
Pac is a congresman > Floyd soon will be ex-convict
Pac has 4 lineal and 8 division titles > Floyd has 2 retirements and plenty of vacations
Do the math