like the title says, I've never seen a Pac fan answer these questions. They post pics of food, deflect (Meaning, they ask a question instead of answering), spew insults, but they never just answer.
1. Out of all the reasons/excuses Top Rank gave for Manny not testing, which do you ride with most? (Don't come with the "Manny agreed to all testing) because he did not, if he did we'd already have seen the fight.
2. Floyd asked for testing from contract to fight night, Manny offered 3 tests and 30 day cutoff.
Then Manny (after 24 7 footage) offered 24 days, and Floyd offered 14.....
Now manny wants 7 day cutoff.......................
............Why did'nt Manny accept 14 days when it was offered?..................... He's willing to do 7 but not 14?..................
I'm just asking these 2 questions so I get a better grip on how they think.....
like the title says, I've never seen a Pac fan answer these questions. They post pics of food, deflect (Meaning, they ask a question instead of answering), spew insults, but they never just answer.
1. Out of all the reasons/excuses Top Rank gave for Manny not testing, which do you ride with most? (Don't come with the "Manny agreed to all testing) because he did not, if he did we'd already have seen the fight.
2. Floyd asked for testing from contract to fight night, Manny offered 3 tests and 30 day cutoff.
Then Manny (after 24 7 footage) offered 24 days, and Floyd offered 14.....
Now manny wants 7 day cutoff.......................
............Why did'nt Manny accept 14 days when it was offered?..................... He's willing to do 7 but not 14?..................
I'm just asking these 2 questions so I get a better grip on how they think.....
Not a Pacman fan anymore,but fair is fair & right there is the answer U need!!Pacman does not have to (bend to anything Floyd feels like demanding)!!If I were Pacman I'd tell Floyd straight up to go fvck himself with that extra testing $hit!!
But also Pacman made himself look a little suspicious with his different excuses!!He should have just said no period!!
The whole phobia of needles makes me wonder if Pac's excuse of giving blood makes him weak is even true. I will give him the weakness excuse and I think he stepped up to the plate when he offered a 7 day cut off. He should have accepted the 14 day cut off in the first place. Since Floyd offered 14 days the first time, why the hell didn't he accept 7 days the second time. At this point, its Floyd that has caused this fight from not happening.
you ever heard of sonny liston?....he had the same phobia!.....
demands from a boxing diva . he thinks his bigger than boxing.without floyd boxing will survive and to the consternation of flomos why pacman would not undergo OST .
Guys wake up from dreamland oist! KFC would never fight pacman and that 2nd time he ducked. and he ducked many fighters at their peak of their careers. We know ,we all know that he knows what we know that he IS ducking again.
PACMAN:You_Rock_ THEIR WORLD
Thread should end right here. It's not like this is the first
time Floyd ducked a fighter. It's been a pattern documented
by numerous boxing writers in many parts of the globe.
So this 14, 7 day, etc, not being okay is truly embarrassing,
the fact that his fight with Mosley was cut-off 18 days
before the fight.
I'm sorry gentleman, no judge and jury in the would agree
with these inconsistencies supported by a pattern of ducking.
Anyways, if the intent of these threads is to focus on Pac,
I don't think they're working. They just remind people of the
absurdity of the demands, thus justifying the cowardice label.
simple question.. WHY???
floyd: easy fight easy money fight me pac!!!
manny: ok lets fight!!
floyd: uhm uhm.. lets do a drug test!!!
floyd didnt asked this shiet on JMM which he claimed JMM is much better fighter than manny..
now go figure WHY and answer this shiet if u can!!
MY ANSWER?? FLOYD IS FAKKING SCARED OF PAC!! TRUE STORY AND ADMIT IT!!
demands from a boxing diva . he thinks his bigger than boxing.without floyd boxing will survive and to the consternation of flomos why pacman would not undergo OST .
Guys wake up from dreamland oist! KFC would never fight pacman and that 2nd time he ducked. and he ducked many fighters at their peak of their careers. We know ,we all know that he knows what we know that he IS ducking again.
PACMAN:You_Rock_ THEIR WORLD
Lets say that is true ,,, how does it justify Manny saying no and trying to water it down ,,,,, does Manny advocate PEDS in sport ? because thats the message he is putting out ,,,,,
Its not about Floyd asking , its irelevant who or why the question was popped , its the opponent asking !! , and I dont care what opponet it is , if they request better drug testing in a bout they are contesting then it should be a resounding automatic yes from the other side , thats what a champion does ,, the crime in this is not just against boxing , its against World Sport trying to stamp out PEDS ,,,, you wanna make Manny a God , well at least make him a fair fighter first , Im sick to death of him having advantages over opponets he stacks fights his way , Floyd wants a even fair fight .
++++I'M SURE THIS VICTOR CONTE'S QUOTE IS VERY FAIR AND NOBODY CAN DENY IT ESPECIALLY FLOYD JR. AND HIS FANS SINCE CONTE IS EXPERT ON ROID/PEDS ---------- "For whatever claims they said about Floyd being drug testing for the Mosley fight, he was tested 19 days before the fight. Let's get real here. Floyd's saying my way or the highway, well that's BS. It's got to be a compromise and there's never going 100% (accurate test) and we need to acknowledge that and I think Manny has made an effort to compromise and move to Floyd's direction and I think Manny needs to be applauded for that." -- Victor Conte
Manny wanted to make the fight happen, which is why he was willing to bend to 20 days, then 14, then 7. this what happens in negotiations, one side has to meet halfway. Floyd apparently doesnt.
Why did you not ask why Floyd made stricter demands each negotiation? Arent there 2 sides to a story? Do you only look at the world in floyds perspective? is that definitively being biased?
How are u "bending" to 20days, then 14, then 7, when your team originally agreed to full OST? Why are u ignoring that part? So, you tell me who met half way if Pac started with full OST, then moved to 30 days then 24 days and Floyd met him in the middle at 14? Why don't u call Pac the "duck" from walking away from that? Are u gonna do that? You are asking about bias? What about that?
like the title says, I've never seen a Pac fan answer these questions. They post pics of food, deflect (Meaning, they ask a question instead of answering), spew insults, but they never just answer.
1. Out of all the reasons/excuses Top Rank gave for Manny not testing, which do you ride with most? (Don't come with the "Manny agreed to all testing) because he did not, if he did we'd already have seen the fight.
2. Floyd asked for testing from contract to fight night, Manny offered 3 tests and 30 day cutoff.
Then Manny (after 24 7 footage) offered 24 days, and Floyd offered 14.....
Now manny wants 7 day cutoff.......................
............Why did'nt Manny accept 14 days when it was offered?..................... He's willing to do 7 but not 14?..................
I'm just asking these 2 questions so I get a better grip on how they think.....
I am not a Pac fan or a Floyd fan (I am both actually), but here is my answer to your questions.
1- All I heard from Pac camp is that he feels giving blood too close to the fight would weaken him. I do not agree that it would, but since it is what he believes, it would be a disadvantage on the mental side of his preparation. I honestly never read anything "official" about Pac being affraid of needles or stuff like that. All I read about it was on the forums. Until someone can give me an official quote of Pac using that as an excuse, I will doubt it. It could very well be a random poster on a forum saying that as a joke and someone else using it and it starts spinning (that's how rumors generally start).
2- Manny agreed to 14 days, but Floyd withdrew the offer. I really can't see a good reason for the withdrawal. Usually, that kind of thing happens in a negociation when there is an advantage that can be gained from an agreement before a precise date, advantage that would not exist after that day , after which the offer is withdrawn. But this is not the case in the Pac-Floyd situation. And now that Pac has agreed to 7 days cutoff, I really don't understand why it isn't enough for some people. If Pac uses something illegal, he has do use it in actual training (there is not much training in the week before the fight) for it to have any effect.
Just my opinion.
They see a special fighter doing special things. I know what they feel- fear.
Lets say that is true ,,, how does it justify Manny saying no and trying to water it down ,,,,, does Manny advocate PEDS in sport ? because thats the message he is putting out ,,,,,
Its not about Floyd asking , its irelevant who or why the question was popped , its the opponent asking !! , and I dont care what opponet it is , if they request better drug testing in a bout they are contesting then it should be a resounding automatic yes from the other side , thats what a champion does ,, the crime in this is not just against boxing , its against World Sport trying to stamp out PEDS ,,,, you wanna make Manny a God , well at least make him a fair fighter first , Im sick to death of him having advantages over opponets he stacks fights his way , Floyd wants a even fair fight .
His questions have been answered by at least 5 different people in this thread. His reading comprehension is akin to that of the Mayweather clan.
+++++correct!...floydfans can't comprehend that 7 days is shorter than 14 days that floyd first agreed to and the fact that they were tested 19 and 18days during the floyd/mosley fight...they question why pac changes his compromised from 14 days to 7 days but they failed to realized or question why floyd keeps on changing his demands from 14 days to all the way to the fight..clearly a biased question.
((( "For whatever claims they said about Floyd being drug testing for the Mosley fight, he was tested 19 days before the fight. Let's get real here. Floyd's saying my way or the highway, well that's BS. It's got to be a compromise and there's never going 100% (accurate test) and we need to acknowledge that and I think Manny has made an effort to compromise and move to Floyd's direction and I think Manny needs to be applauded for that." -- Victor Conte" ))))---IS THIS GOOD ENOUGH ANSWER FOR THE OP'S QUESTION???????
Haha. Good to know that I've aggravated you enough that you show your true viewpoint.
Provide some concrete evidence besides extraordinary performance. You know fight night weights and other statistics are available, right?
I answered your pathetic, grammatical nightmare questions in my first post in this sorry thread. Have fun rage typing me a response to this. i've always been on the "Testing" side of things, it's no secret. I just can't see how some people side with declining drug tests. Interesting tho
doesnt that answer your question then ? or are you going to keep making threads?
yes bob has a plan genius. Everyone in the world including Greenburg (who is neutral) knows he tried to make the fight happen. You havent explained why floyd went on vacation when he clearly had more than 6 months time to rest and retrain. floyd has a plan, to not fight manny. wow, lol..... :banghead: no use
Haha. Good to know that I've aggravated you enough that you show your true viewpoint.
Provide some concrete evidence besides extraordinary performance. You know fight night weights and other statistics are available, right?
I answered your pathetic, grammatical nightmare questions in my first post in this sorry thread. Have fun rage typing me a response to this. And still no answers>>
Keep up cowboy... 7 days is fine, I was good with 14 days.
Ok if the manny fight was 6 months after Floyds, how much time would be needed to make such a fight?
manny needs a rest (2 months at best) then camp (6 to 8 weeks) And dopnt mention promo..
Bob has a plan dude, it's not hard to see. It's Bob milking this cow, you're missing the whole show "Get your head out your azz)
doesnt that answer your question then ? or are you going to keep making threads?
yes bob has a plan genius. Everyone in the world including Greenburg (who is neutral) knows he tried to make the fight happen. You havent explained why floyd went on vacation when he clearly had more than 6 months time to rest and retrain. floyd has a plan, to not fight manny.
They see a special fighter doing special things. I know what they feel- fear. Yea, the homerun race was fun to watch to (Bonds, Big Mac and Sosa).. boy were those the days, remember?
Sir, it was floyd who offered 7 days cut-off... he refused to honor his earlier 14days offer. Wanting to make the fight happen, Pac agreed to 7 days... Afterwhich, floyd went into an indefinite leave.
Hope this clears up the misconception.:boxing:
WOW!!!! should i use you as the "Poster Child Of Missinformation"
wtf are you talking about, he went to 7 days. If manny wanted the fight, he wouldve accepted it right? well he went even further.
If 14 was acceptable to floyd, why isnt 7? are you really that ****in stupid or is it an act?
your vacation theories are just as stupid as well. The manny was fight was 6 months after shane. so floyd didnt have to "get back into camp". Youre only regulating him to only 1 fight a year, but youre biased as **** so its understandable. Keep up cowboy... 7 days is fine, I was good with 14 days.
Ok if the manny fight was 6 months after Floyds, how much time would be needed to make such a fight?
manny needs a rest (2 months at best) then camp (6 to 8 weeks) And dopnt mention promo..
Bob has a plan dude, it's not hard to see. It's Bob milking this cow, you're missing the whole show "Get your head out your azz)
like the title says, I've never seen a Pac fan answer these questions. They post pics of food, deflect (Meaning, they ask a question instead of answering), spew insults, but they never just answer.
1. Out of all the reasons/excuses Top Rank gave for Manny not testing, which do you ride with most? (Don't come with the "Manny agreed to all testing) because he did not, if he did we'd already have seen the fight.
2. Floyd asked for testing from contract to fight night, Manny offered 3 tests and 30 day cutoff.
Then Manny (after 24 7 footage) offered 24 days, and Floyd offered 14.....
Now manny wants 7 day cutoff.......................
............Why did'nt Manny accept 14 days when it was offered?..................... He's willing to do 7 but not 14?..................
I'm just asking these 2 questions so I get a better grip on how they think.....
Sir, it was floyd who offered 7 days cut-off... he refused to honor his earlier 14days offer. Wanting to make the fight happen, Pac agreed to 7 days... Afterwhich, floyd went into an indefinite leave.
Hope this clears up the misconception.:boxing:
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