Why is Floyd so hesitant. Why did Floyd come up with an out of the norm drug test demand.. Its simple Pac his a HUGE THREAT Reasons
1. Power - Pac has power to hurt Welterweights not only in his left but his right hand as well. Pac hurt Margarito and dropped Cotto with both hands. Pac will hurt Floyd their is NO DOUBT about it
2. Speed - Every fighter that has faced Pac has mentioned this. You dont know how fast he is until you get in the ring with him. Pacs handspeed is insane and unpredictable.
3. Footwork - Pacs footwork is just as good as Floyds. He can dart in and out, moves side to side, and bounces around confusing opponents
4. Stamina - This includes Pacs work ethic. Pac has serious stamina and picks it up in the later rounds. This dude doesnt seem to tire. He is a gym rat just like Floyd. Pac WILL keep up with Floyd and possibly even speed it up
5. Punch Combinations - Pac throws 5 - 6 - even 7 punches at once. He does this confuse his opponent, you dont know how many punches Pac will through. Usually a fighter will throw a 2 or 3 punch combo and then rest. Pac confuses you with the amount of punches he throws and again all with POP...
6. Heart - No matter how dangerous the exchanges Pac is in, Pac has huge heart and will not back down. Sometimes heart can be a bad thing for fighters but Pacs heart has benefited him.
7. Chin/Durability - Pac has taken flush shots by Cotto, Margarito, and Clottey. Pacs has proven he can take shots by a Welterweight and remain on his feet.
8. Awkward Angles - "They say the punches that hurt you are the ones you dont see coming" Pacs throws from angles you dont see..
9. Southpaw - Like Floyd Sr. said, he dont want his son fighting Southpaws, Pac is the best Southpaw fighter to date. Extremely a factor when fighting Floyd. Dont forget the right hook Pac possesses that rock Marg. That same right hook that dropped Floyd when Judah landed it..
These are all simple facts to why I think Pac can beat Floyd
Im sure some of you can come up with more but from this assessment alone, its clear why Floyd is hesitant to fight Pacman.. Pac has become a complete fighter
Pac will not throw a 100 punches a round versus Mayweather. So, get that thought out of yall mind. When a person can counter everything that you do, you think twice about throwing so many punches.
Pac will throw less of course cause Floyd will be back peddling most of the time. Trust me when Pac lands one flush shot, Floyd will feel it.. Pac isnt just beating his opponents by decision hes tearing them up..
Floyd will be shocked when he feels Pacs power and sees Pac speed..
Why do think he is so hesitant to fight Pac.. Come on man..
Pac should face those fresh boxers who are hungry and would pose some threats to pacquiao.
So your saying Floyd has been do this? Shane, how many losses, Marquez Old as dirt how many losses..
Some of these guys makes me laugh, For you to throw 1000 plus punches you would need the following: A stationary target (Possibly a slow fighter), a flat-footed fighter or a dumb fighter.
When you throw 1000 plus you leave yourself open to AN intelligent/smart boxer who has a great boxing IQ to take advantages of those 1000 times you let your hands go.
Any volume puncher who faces any decent counterpuncher or a smart fighter would find it hard..
Just to bad Floyd is hesitant though. Makes you wonder....
Pac will not throw a 100 punches a round versus Mayweather. So, get that thought out of yall mind. When a person can counter everything that you do, you think twice about throwing so many punches.
Some of these guys makes me laugh, For you to throw 1000 plus punches you would need the following: A stationary target (Possibly a slow fighter), a flat-footed fighter or a dumb fighter.
When you throw 1000 plus you leave yourself open to AN intelligent/smart boxer who has a great boxing IQ to take advantages of those 1000 times you let your hands go.
Any volume puncher who faces any decent counterpuncher or a smart fighter would find it hard..
Why is Floyd so hesitant. Why did Floyd come up with an out of the norm drug test demand.. Its simple Pac his a HUGE THREAT Reasons
1. Power - Pac has power to hurt Welterweights not only in his left but his right hand as well. Pac hurt Margarito and dropped Cotto with both hands. Pac will hurt Floyd their is NO DOUBT about it
2. Speed - Every fighter that has faced Pac has mentioned this. You dont know how fast he is until you get in the ring with him. Pacs handspeed is insane and unpredictable.
3. Footwork - Pacs footwork is just as good as Floyds. He can dart in and out, moves side to side, and bounces around confusing opponents
4. Stamina - This includes Pacs work ethic. Pac has serious stamina and picks it up in the later rounds. This dude doesnt seem to tire. He is a gym rat just like Floyd. Pac WILL keep up with Floyd and possibly even speed it up
5. Punch Combinations - Pac throws 5 - 6 - even 7 punches at once. He does this confuse his opponent, you dont know how many punches Pac will through. Usually a fighter will throw a 2 or 3 punch combo and then rest. Pac confuses you with the amount of punches he throws and again all with POP...
6. Heart - No matter how dangerous the exchanges Pac is in, Pac has huge heart and will not back down. Sometimes heart can be a bad thing for fighters but Pacs heart has benefited him.
7. Chin/Durability - Pac has taken flush shots by Cotto, Margarito, and Clottey. Pacs has proven he can take shots by a Welterweight and remain on his feet.
8. Awkward Angles - "They say the punches that hurt you are the ones you dont see coming" Pacs throws from angles you dont see..
9. Southpaw - Like Floyd Sr. said, he dont want his son fighting Southpaws, Pac is the best Southpaw fighter to date. Extremely a factor when fighting Floyd. Dont forget the right hook Pac possesses that rock Marg. That same right hook that dropped Floyd when Judah landed it..
These are all simple facts to why I think Pac can beat Floyd
Im sure some of you can come up with more but from this assessment alone, its clear why Floyd is hesitant to fight Pacman.. Pac has become a complete fighter
well marquez managed to figure him out and made it a close close fight floyd is a better fighter than marquez and aint as aggressive as marquez i see floyd outpointing him
Another thing to add.
LEVEL OF COMPETITION..
In the Past three years Pac has been fighting suppose stronger bigger men. Either taking them out or shutting them down....
Floyds level of competition wasnt that of a threat in the ring, Shane who seriously stopped being aggressive after the 2nd (If you didnt see that then you have to be straight blind) Marquez who wasnt even a real threat to Floyd, his punches didnt hurt him, he was overweight and out of his realm... Prior to that Floyd was on a year and a half layoff and right now this time off Floyd is taking is not helping him..
Keep it real..
Add in the fact that Pac will punch with a counter puncher (he's evolved since Marquez), he won't wait to get countered. His style at times is very similar in theory to jeet kune do (bruce lee's martial art) where they believe offense is the best defense, you throw you counter at the same time the other guy is trying to hurt you. This is also the reason why Pac got caught with that body shot against Margs in the 6th round, Pac's arm got caught in the ropes as he was going to snap Margs in the face with a left to take the power out of Margs body shot before it landed.
Agree with this, He has fought alot of fighters, Which he gained experience through. Different types and styles.
pac didn't have the power to stop margarito.
shane stopped margarito.
floyd beat shane.
work ethic there is none like floyd.
defense floyd is an atg great in defense.
footwork..pacquiao doesn't have 3% of floyd ability when it comes to fw.
speed..floyd is 5 times faster and he's got a better jab.
getting beat up..well pacquiao has been smashed in each and every fight.
just get used to it..pac is a cheater who fights damaged goods at catch weight :lol1:
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watch floyd vs JMM if you want to see how pacquiao would end up,the only thing is that floyd had remorse with JMM he toyed with him while on the other hand JMM beat pacquiao twice that's why pac moved up in weight so he could do his catch weight thing, now he wants JMM because he knows he lost to him but THIS time it's gonna be at pacquiaos prefered weight class :rofl:
I know we all have differing opinions, and I think that's great. But your assessment sounds pretty bias TBH.
So, Pac "didn't have the power to stop Margarito" - a man 17lbs heavier then him in a higher weight division (who, btw his face was minced meat by the 11th round) .... BUT YET, when FMJ doesn't take out a blown up light weight, he was "toying with him". Floyd didn't knock JMM out because "Floyd had remorse for JMM" ??!? Come on, really?
I would say what sounds a little more reasonable IMO is that - Pac, had he really wanted to, could have taken Tony out in the last 2 rounds and most believe he was taking mercy on a man who could no longer see and was starting to look like a monster, AND Floyd was coming off retirement and probably wanted to get rounds in rather than trying to K.O. a guy who has never been stopped.
I just don't understand why people feel the need to put one fighter down to try to make another fighter seem better.
Bob told Dan Rafael on friday that he would market a mosley manny fight by hyping the fact manny has never fought an african american fighter. If Bob is saying this then how can you call it nonsense.
non-sense because it is not about the nationality or color of skin...get it?
I also hope manny will fight next either bradley/alexander to shut that "slick black american" non-sense.
Bob told Dan Rafael on friday that he would market a mosley manny fight by hyping the fact manny has never fought an african american fighter. If Bob is saying this then how can you call it nonsense.
If the fight doesn't get signed, I'd like pac to face the winner of Bradley/Alexander, Berto or Sergio Martinez(catchweight or not) to lessen some doubts.
I also hope manny will fight next either bradley/alexander to shut that "slick black american" non-sense.
If the fight doesn't get signed, I'd like pac to face the winner of Bradley/Alexander, Berto or Sergio Martinez(catchweight or not) to lessen some doubts.
do u mean manny fighting himself? these are attributes (dodges, bobs, weaves, and parrys the punches then counters off it) of manny. too bad only 1 person is said to be to equalize, but he has to grow some balls to fight.
The only fighter Manny would beat at his weight is another version of Manny.
Floyd has become irrelevant at this point.
I can't wait for Manny to fight an opponent that has mastered the "sweet science" rather than a come forward brawler/puncher. Wonder what would happen when the opponent doesn't stand there and take Manny's pucnhes but dodges, bobs, weaves, and parrys the punches then counters off it.
do u mean manny fighting himself? these are attributes (dodges, bobs, weaves, and parrys the punches then counters off it) of manny. too bad only 1 person is said to be to equalize, but he has to grow some balls to fight.
But honestly, Pac wont be throwing 1000 punches. I think it would be lesser, he would be thinking twice because of the counterpunching style of Floyd and knowing that Floyd is also fast. Plus floyd knows to dictate the tempo.
If this fight happens, you'd immediately see how overrated Floyd is.
Pac landing his first combinations would put Floyd into trouble. No way would Floyd escaped those combinations.
Floyd will never sign up for this fight.
Mark my word.
Even if Pac Team agrees to every silly demand Floyd ask. He won't even bother to ask.
Floyd's corner will stop this fight in the early rounds.
There's a reason why this fight is not happening. Ask Floyd himself.
I can't wait for Manny to fight an opponent that has mastered the "sweet science" rather than a come forward brawler/puncher. Wonder what would happen when the opponent doesn't stand there and take Manny's pucnhes but dodges, bobs, weaves, and parrys the punches then counters off it.
Floyd's corner will stop this fight in the early rounds.
There's a reason why this fight is not happening. Ask Floyd himself.
from your sig, i wonder if floyd will fight the loser of williams-martinez
But honestly, Pac wont be throwing 1000 punches. I think it would be lesser, he would be thinking twice because of the counterpunching style of Floyd and knowing that Floyd is also fast. Plus floyd knows to dictate the tempo.