Team Pac wont take OST, but accused Margarito of Doping!

Before the fight Freddie made a ruckus that they suspect Margarito took a stimulant in the dressing room, something that will be out his system before the fight is over, thus beating a urine test. Yet they refuse to take the OST insisted by Mayweather, that's some hypocritical **** right there. Makes me think Roach and Ariza know everything there Is to know about beating urine tests, they not going to do OST, no chance to dope, simple as that. The difference is, they asked for a urin test, not a blood test before the fight. Manny said he would give urin up to the fight but not blood.

It's because of something called probable cause and legitimate evidence. Floyd should learn what that means. What was the "Probable cause" and what was he "Legitimate Evidence?"

Before the fight Freddie made a ruckus that they suspect Margarito took a stimulant in the dressing room, something that will be out his system before the fight is over, thus beating a urine test. Yet they refuse to take the OST insisted by Mayweather, that's some hypocritical **** right there. Makes me think Roach and Ariza know everything there Is to know about beating urine tests, they not going to do OST, no chance to dope, simple as that. they found a bottle of hydroxy cut in marg's dressing room. to date, there is absolutely no evidence that pac is on PEDs. YOU FAIL!

one has reasonable proof while the other doesn't big difference. False. Buh bye.

Before the fight Freddie made a ruckus that they suspect Margarito took a stimulant in the dressing room, something that will be out his system before the fight is over, thus beating a urine test. Yet they refuse to take the OST insisted by Mayweather, that's some hypocritical **** right there. Makes me think Roach and Ariza know everything there Is to know about beating urine tests, they not going to do OST, no chance to dope, simple as that. one has reasonable proof while the other doesn't big difference.

Manny needs to clean his life up, he runs around with the wrong type and must have a serious drug problem if he refuses testing.

Pac is the center and yet he can't seem to out draw FMJ in gates or PPV. Makes perfect sense. Oh yeah, sorry...Pac vs. Cotto did outdraw FMJ vs. Marquez by 100k..hahaha Sorry man Pac is on center stage in the boxing world.. I said "World", just in case you didn't catch it...:dunce:

The best thing about all this Pac Hate and the Flomo Bullsh!t boils down to 1 thing... 1. Pac is the center of Professional Boxing and all you Floyd fukks hate it... So keep grasping for every little thing you have to discredit Pacs wins and keep making excuses for Floyd, it doesn't change the almighty conclusion that Floyd is now just a backdrop to Pacquiao's career... I think that hurts all of you Floyd fans above all else... HILARIOUS!!! Pac is the center and yet he can't seem to out draw FMJ in gates or PPV. Makes perfect sense. Oh yeah, sorry...Pac vs. Cotto did outdraw FMJ vs. Marquez by 100k..hahaha

So what's the "smoking gun" from Pacquiao that you see that necessitates drug testing? • His unprecendented streaks of impressive wins while not losing his speed and strength? Margarito had history of cheating. Where's your precedent with Pacquiao? None. I'll be waiting for you also. There isn't a precedence with Pac, but there certainly is a lot of suspicious things going on, that would make ANY impartial person question whether he is using something or not. How about the following: He had moved up 8 weight classes and gained strength and maintained at most of his speed. (Something that has never been done b4, even by the greats) His trainer has had 2 fighters test positive for PED's and has lied and said he knows NOTHING about steroids, only to have his own words from the past contradict him. His strength and conditioning coach has been involved with PED's in the past. Pac's team originally agreed to full OST, then changed that to 3, 5, 7, 30, 24, 14 then supposedly 7. Pac's team had numerous reasons why he couldn't take blood tests. Pac's team wanted to be informed when the "random" drug tests would be coming. If someone says that all of this of this doesn't raise more doubt than a bottle of Hydroxycut, which stopped containing a banned substance 6yrs ago, I don't know what else can be said. By the way, Hydroxycut is a nurtritional SUPPLEMENT, not a drug. Nothing different than the numerous supplements that Pac takes via Alez Ariza. Roach has alot of nerve saying anything, when Ariza has said that he is the ONLY ONE that knows what supplements Pac takes.

and SSM too right...oh wait.:twak:to compare Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, I would of always considered SSM the more dangerous of the 3 for Pacquiao, Freddie Roach agrees which is why he aggressively avoided that fight stating, "Shane is too good" but hey Shane is over the hill now, great news for Team Pac

Please read and re-read my posting. i didn't say it was illegal. I said that at least there's a "smoking gun" there most specially with Margarito's history and proven "cheating". With Pacquiao, there were no RED FLAGS up nor real "smoking gun" other than: • "boy is he fast, strong despite going up the weight divisions...we're scared of him!" With Pacquiao, at least he has fought fighters that Mayweather has ducked in Cotto and Margarito despite his size. and SSM too right...oh wait.:twak:

Yes, How?!!!!!, HOW!!!!!? did he know. Think about it, meditate on it, imagine it, and let the us know. Common knowledge is so difficult to acquire nowadays that we can't even use common sense to deduce that coffee or hydroxycut probably don't last too long in your system. Roach did nothing but destroy his own argument against OST, this is a wrap, if this was a court of law he just ruined his case.

The best thing about all this Pac Hate and the Flomo Bullsh!t boils down to 1 thing... 1. Pac is the center of Professional Boxing and all you Floyd fukks hate it... So keep grasping for every little thing you have to discredit Pacs wins and keep making excuses for Floyd, it doesn't change the almighty conclusion that Floyd is now just a backdrop to Pacquiao's career... I think that hurts all of you Floyd fans above all else... HILARIOUS!!!

How about you answer my questions that you keep ducking and have now ducked a THIRD TIME. IMDAZED asks the tough questions that only his imagination can answer.

Here's the deal: Floyd - like Manny - has never tested positive for PED's, yet he's willing to undergo OST with no cut-off dates to prove he's clean. The majority of the boxing public agrees better testing is needed.-- Why? Fighters have been caught or have admitted to using PED's despite conventional testing procedures in the past. Shane Mosley took random testing and passed with flying colors. Is Team Pacquiao afraid Manny won't pass the tests? Only Team Pacquiao want cut-off dates. -- Why?

So what's the "smoking gun" from Pacquiao that you see that necessitates drug testing? • His unprecendented streaks of impressive wins while not losing his speed and strength? Margarito had history of cheating. Where's your precedent with Pacquiao? None. I'll be waiting for you also. How about you answer my questions that you keep ducking and have now ducked a THIRD TIME. Really? So then how did steroid testing begin? Go ahead, I'll be here waiting - since I asked you before and got no response. And second, I don't need to assume anything. If you're saying that a smoking gun/proof is needed in order to ask for tests then what is the smoking gun the commissions use?

Really? So then how did steroid testing begin? Go ahead, I'll be here waiting - since I asked you before and got no response. And second, I don't need to assume anything. If you're saying that a smoking gun is needed in order to ask for tests then commissions shouldn't test! Period! Don't be so thick. So what's the "smoking gun" from Pacquiao that you see that necessitates drug testing? • His unprecendented streaks of impressive wins while not losing his speed and strength? Margarito had history of cheating. Where's your precedent with Pacquiao? None. I'll be waiting for you also.

How does freddie roach know whatever Margarito took in the dressing room would be:hitit: out his system before the fight was over? Does this not confirm that team Pac was full of **** when they said they'd take a test 2 weeks before and immediately after the fight? Yes, How?!!!!!, HOW!!!!!? did he know. Think about it, meditate on it, imagine it, and let the us know. Common knowledge is so difficult to acquire nowadays that we can't even use common sense to deduce that coffee or hydroxycut probably don't last too long in your system.

How does freddie roach know whatever Margarito took in the dressing room would be out his system before the fight was over? Does this not confirm that team Pac was full of **** when they said they'd take a test 2 weeks before and immediately after the fight?

Cause Team Pac has perfected the drug game, Freddie Escobar Yes they have. Pac is the Tony Montana of Peds.