Pac-Marg “championship” fight is plain old BS!!

but that's the issue...it shouldn't be for the 154...especially, when he weighed in @ 144!!!!!..that's 10 pounds!!...that bradley/alexander/amir chin weight after a meal, man i have no prob the opponent per say, as long as they make weight...marg is huge in comparison anyway, so that in itself was a feat..props to pac...but within boxing structure...that belt was bull****! they've been accomodating PAC a little too much...first it's the "DIAMOND" belt, then a 7th divisional belt, then an eighth....i would be surprised if they try to get him an belt for his next fight..just to break records and say he's supernatural.. he's impeccable..we know that...no need to validate with worthless trinkets, or demean his good wins with catchweight clauses...they're not doing pac any favors...in 50 years, they'll mention his accomplishments, but they would also hint @ enabling environment that facilitate his successes His weight isn't really an issue,IMO!!He can weight whatever he wants for a fight,as long as it's not over the limit!!The Problem is the opponent in that fight didn't belong or deserve to be in the same ring with him!!There are far more deserving fighters than Margarito!!

The greatest fighter of our generation dominated Margarito for a 154lb title,that's where the problem lies,in his choice of opponent!!Great fighters shouldn't get to break records beating people like Margarito!!Same for his counterpart!!More worthy fighters fight at 154!! but that's the issue...it shouldn't be for the 154...especially, when he weighed in @ 144!!!!!..that's 10 pounds!!...that bradley/alexander/amir chin weight after a meal, man i have no prob the opponent per say, as long as they make weight...marg is huge in comparison anyway, so that in itself was a feat..props to pac...but within boxing structure...that belt was bull****! they've been accomodating PAC a little too much...first it's the "DIAMOND" belt, then a 7th divisional belt, then an eighth....i would be surprised if they try to get him an belt for his next fight..just to break records and say he's supernatural.. he's impeccable..we know that...no need to validate with worthless trinkets, or demean his good wins with catchweight clauses...they're not doing pac any favors...in 50 years, they'll mention his accomplishments, but they would also hint @ enabling environment that facilitate his successes

WEIGHT LIMIT MY ASS...that's the recent mainstream excuse for validating the catchweight trend....arguing that he's still "within" welterweight or bantamweight limit is bull****...he simply DID NOT make the recognize limit for that specific weight....unfortunately, this bs argument is being lent some credibility when the likes of sTEWARD or Arum, or any boxing stapleface support bouts with catchweights...i understand the need to make good fights, but don't tarnish the integrity of the sport on that acct.....not everyone would start blurring the lines for their own benefits.

The greatest fighter of our generation dominated Margarito for a 154lb title,that's where the problem lies,in his choice of opponent!!Great fighters shouldn't get to break records beating people like Margarito!!Same for his counterpart!!More worthy fighters fight at 154!!

8 division champion thing has to be taken with a grain of salt. just as you would oscar's 6 division titles. yeah it was a vacant belt and a catchweight and he didn't deserve it but neither did oscar deserve the 160 belt he "won" off of sturm. yea..maybe true...cuz i don't really know the details of that fight...AND from my understanding, that was a gift decision to DLH as well...but that was a one-shot deal if anything, one thing is certain, DLH wasN'T glorified as much as PAC is been glorified @ the moment....why? for setting catchweights in @ least 2 championship fights!?...BS!!

Where on earth is catchweight illegal? i's not illegally so to speak since there was an agreement in place..but for boxing as a sport, setting catchweights is bull****, if not illegal...it's cutting corners..someone would say it's an act that tarnishes the integrity of the sport, just becuz we want to glorify/give accolades to someone the one good thing out of this is the publicity that boxing garners...maybe the sport will experience a resurgence on account of that.

I think Pac-Marg fight as a Super welterweight championship was some plain old BS..Pac is NO eight-divisional world champ in my book. How are u gonna weigh-in @ 144 for a 154-Ib belt!?...F/that...Pac might be a phenom, but he's also catchweight chUmp!...he didn't even bother to weigh-in as a regular welterweight (147Ibs); the weight class he claims he belongs to...he just came in @ almost 2 weight divisions below and then cheated with speed...I don't know if like the guy anymore after this. Because I’m trying to figure out how HE himself justifies the fight for an 8th divisional championship belt..it’s cool if u want to challenge urself against a bigger man, but don’t pretend or sanction it as a world-recognized championship bout…cuz it’s a farce...On a different note; Punchwise, i think Pac hits harder than Mayweather (see Margarito's face)..Skillwise, Mayweather trumps that catchweight chump...Ultimately, Mayweather beats him! That said, Pac put on a spectacular showcase against a bigger man. Period!. Regardless of the pertinent facts such as the illegal catchweight issue, drained opponents and ****ty championship billings etc…the bottomline line was, it was a smaller man versus a significantly bigger man. In the fight, Pac was shown to be vunerable, but that little man pulled it out in fine fashion...or maybe it was Marg didn’t capitalize on those moments he had pac hurt…cuz pac was indeed hurt several times. Nonetheless, he was very impressive..he really threw heavy-handed power shots more than anything else..and he needed to cuz it was marg…he really, really was committed and use the approriate tools (angles and power shots)…the shots he threw in the clottey fights were many feints, no power behind then cuz he was tired casual viewers didn’t see that, but marg forced him to deliver in this fight. Marg also fell victims to Pac mental games..from the catholic cross showcase, to the beating his fists together when someone momentarily gets the better of him…Marg was strong, and he had some successes, but I felt like he falter mentally @ some point even tho he didn’t give up to the end. Pac mind games are soooooooo obvious and simple, and can easily be disregard or dismissed. Mayweather would do just that…he won’t fall for them..but rather, I think it’d be vice-versa… I don’t hate Pac as a person, or a boxer…I hate the way he’s glorified for all these achievements when the fact is, he cut corners..he cut corners by taking on Diaz who wasn’t a top 3-4 super lightweight (but that performance was amazing tho). He cut corners with DLH by draining him and not making 147 himself (I think). That Hatton win was LEGIT!..but maybe Hatton was already gone b4 that, courtesy of that white power and bodily abuse (we’ll never know)…he cut corners by fighting cotto @ 145, cotto was drained and mentally compromised if I’m not mistaken, pac himself never made 147 for that fight, but it was billed as a WBO championship fight. The Clottey win was LEGIT!, but Pac was tired as ****, he could not break down clottey. HE FEINTED A LOT OF AGGRESSION IN THAT FIGHT, and so he looked good to casual observers because the little output from clottey. When clottey DID throw punches, he actually hurt pac (see pac face after that fight, that’s the most damage he has suffered in a while)…he now cut corners with marg…bring a 154ib beast to 150..at that point, even tho he was bigger, marg was not marg..technically he was still bigger than pac…and he did make an effort to fight, but he was a sitting duck… You don't understand. Boxers fight at a weight LIMIT which means they can't weight above a certain weight so if they choose to weight less that's their choice. BTW in 99% of cases weighing in less will put u at a disadvantage. Cheated with speed? - I stopped reading after that.

8 division champion thing has to be taken with a grain of salt. just as you would oscar's 6 division titles. yeah it was a vacant belt and a catchweight and he didn't deserve it but neither did oscar deserve the 160 belt he "won" off of sturm.

That said, Pac put on a spectacular showcase against a bigger man. Period!. Regardless of the pertinent facts such as the illegal catchweight issue, drained opponents and ****ty championship billings etc…… Where on earth is catchweight illegal?

I disagree. TS is a ****tard.

A hate Manny, love Mayweather thread. What else is new?

wow!...take manny's dick out of your mouth...u r a sucking a bit too hard:bigeyes:

Pac-Marg “championship” fight is plain old BS!! Quit with your BullShT jealousy and envy. The world just witness two brave warriors and gladiators, champion and former champion who could not attend post commitments, both ending up destroyed. MP with possible internal bleeding, Margo in hospital. Maybe both their last fight. Get a life dude, you are a disgrace to boxing.