You can say i'm complaining or even pulling the race card, but lets face it they are RACIST! Its not about boxing, skill, or belts, its about color shades. Why is that black fighters not only have to dominate their opponent in the ring but they have to sell themselves to even get the recognition and the credit they deserve? Fighters from Jack Johnson, Ali, Mike Tyson, Roy Jones, and even Mayweather not only had to dominate but they had to act a fool to marketed themselves. Where as white fighters like Joe C, Kelly Pavil (at one time), Klitch bros and the one that takes the cake MANNY PACQUIAO can fight bums, remain humble and get all the credit in the world.
No matter who Mayweather fights its never good enough. He beat castillo, they said he lost, he beat him again and they still complained. Hatton ko castillo and they said Floyd was ducking him, he ko'd him and they turned around and said he was too small. Floyd went up to 154 got the official belt at the official weight they said Oscar was too old. Two years later Oscar drained down to 147 and got stopped by Pac and they gave him fighter of the year. Pac turned around and ko hatton after floyd and got fighter of the decade. Margarito a MEXICAN beat cot first, Pac beat him and they compared him to armstrong and ali. Mosley kos Mayorga and Margarito and loses 12 brutal rounds to floyd, they say Mosley is too old. Pac beats Margarito the WW for the 154 title and he's rated the best fighter ever? I don't understand this ****..
Marquez goes up to 144, they say he was bloated and didn't belong at that weight. Now Roach says bring him to 147 cuz Manny isn't going to do a catch weight?? The catch weight king isn't going to do a catch weight??
If Floyd ever fights Pac, which i doubt because they're going for Marquez. If floyd wins they'll say...he was too small, a congress man etc..
I'm an idiot.
I'm a huge pwill fan, but the problem is he hasn't been built into an attraction (seems like a theme for al haymon guys huh).
seriously, I want so suck off the ts
Maybe u should read on rather than just suck off
You can say i'm complaining or even pulling the race card, but lets face it they are RACIST! Its not about boxing, skill, or belts, its about color shades. Why is that black fighters not only have to dominate their opponent in the ring but they have to sell themselves to even get the recognition and the credit they deserve? Fighters from Jack Johnson, Ali, Mike Tyson, Roy Jones, and even Mayweather not only had to dominate but they had to act a fool to marketed themselves. Where as white fighters like Joe C, Kelly Pavil (at one time), Klitch bros and the one that takes the cake MANNY PACQUIAO can fight bums, remain humble and get all the credit in the world.
you are playing the race card my friend... people dont respect floyd cos of his awfull personality nothing more.... if he was nice and humble and was battering miles bigger opponents that him in style hed get love like pac probably even more so
boxers of all colours get lucky look at mike jones and devon alexander in particular in recent times.... if anything black boxers have a bigger profile and statically i would imagine on the tv more than white boxers in the us?... im mixed race and in general ..its the black guys i tune in for in the us..... but klitsckos and pac.... are the true class
great thread. threadstarter is right. the media has an obsession with pac. you can't deny that. he gets way too much credit for beatign up left overs. true story.
This has been the case for a while. Paul Williams is one of the most exciting fighter around when he gets the right opponent. He has a fight of the year candidate last year, gets a rematch with the guy, who is currently the middleweight champion, and can't even get a PPV? I bet it would sell more than Mosley/Mora did. Yet Marquez/Diaz can after Diaz looks like crap against Malignaggi (even getting wobbled) twice. I'm not even black and I can see that stuff. Mosley is not only one of the best fighters, but one of the most exciting fighters of the last generation? What the hell kept him from being one of the biggest PPV draws?
idiot.
I'm a huge pwill fan, but the problem is he hasn't been built into an attraction (seems like a theme for al haymon guys huh).
seriously, you are dumber than the ts
I like it how nowadays racists pick and choose which races they hate. "Oh Asians are ok, Mexicans are ok, but blacks oh I hate them". Fuking stupid backwards ass thinking on the Thread Starters part!
Racists hate every other race but their own you retard!
For a very long time other races had to sit and watch you blacks dominate most of the devisions of boxing.The wheel has now turned and you are crying,moaning,and it has to be racist doesnt it. :-) and you will carry on complaining.What more can we give you ?
if blacks are not intimidating white folks on the street everyday,or raping or murdering...they are crying....when they feel outdone they use the old race card.
Joe calzache is unbeaten too,but he is not seen as great.Why should FM be seen as great.
people will make up their own minds who are what.Please stop crying about your skincolour.We cannot help that your anchestors sold millions of you ! Even they could not stand you
Oh my gosh.... Isn't it obvious. Flomos aren't fully there. 7-10 flomos are mentally challenged. Proof is everywhere. Why the 30% of good floyd fans endorse this ish, I don't know but collectively flomos have ZERO credibility because of posters like the TS.
You know what's really racist? Accusing a man of using steroids all because he is a little asian man beating guys bigger than him. Just because Asians don't make huge impacts in Sports doesn't mean it can't be done. Its funny because they also like to point out how Manny fights hand picked fighters. Oscar was too old, Hatton was not good enough, Cotto was shot, Clottey is a bum and Marg is a bum without handwraps. All are true. So why does Manny need steroid to beat all these old shot bums?
Accusing him of roids is just pure hate. He came from nothing and look where he is now. Until there is proof, let the man get his shine on. Why are people trying to discredit the little asian man? Why bring him down? Let Manny do his thing. Respect.
Here's the deal
Floyd is an unlikeable phony and cherry picks his fights while Pacquiao is humble, self deprecating, sincere and he'll challenge himself against the biggest and best in the ring.
That's why reasonable men don't like Mayweather. In addition, he's a damn thug.
Close the thread.
You can say i'm complaining or even pulling the race card, but lets face it they are RACIST! Its not about boxing, skill, or belts, its about color shades. Why is that black fighters not only have to dominate their opponent in the ring but they have to sell themselves to even get the recognition and the credit they deserve? Fighters from Jack Johnson, Ali, Mike Tyson, Roy Jones, and even Mayweather not only had to dominate but they had to act a fool to marketed themselves. Where as white fighters like Joe C, Kelly Pavil (at one time), Klitch bros and the one that takes the cake MANNY PACQUIAO can fight bums, remain humble and get all the credit in the world.
No matter who Mayweather fights its never good enough. He beat castillo, they said he lost, he beat him again and they still complained. Hatton ko castillo and they said Floyd was ducking him, he ko'd him and they turned around and said he was too small. Floyd went up to 154 got the official belt at the official weight they said Oscar was too old. Two years later Oscar drained down to 147 and got stopped by Pac and they gave him fighter of the year. Pac turned around and ko hatton after floyd and got fighter of the decade. Margarito a MEXICAN beat cot first, Pac beat him and they compared him to armstrong and ali. Mosley kos Mayorga and Margarito and loses 12 brutal rounds to floyd, they say Mosley is too old. Pac beats Margarito the WW for the 154 title and he's rated the best fighter ever? I don't understand this ****..
Marquez goes up to 144, they say he was bloated and didn't belong at that weight. Now Roach says bring him to 147 cuz Manny isn't going to do a catch weight?? The catch weight king isn't going to do a catch weight??
If Floyd ever fights Pac, which i doubt because they're going for Marquez. If floyd wins they'll say...he was too small, a congress man etc..
Were you wearing this when you wrote this?
http://teesbox.com/images/chip-on-shoulder-big.jpg
You can thank their own demographic for that. Even the African American community isn't tuning in or showing up to their fights. Its not a racist issue, its an interest issue. If African American fighters were being supported by their own people, which they aren't, then you would have a valid point. HBO, Showtime, and ESPN have tried hard to tap into the Afro American market with fighters such as Berto, Kirkland, Dawson, Dirrel, Ward, etc, but they aren't biting.
I think more White and Latin people buy floyd's fights than African Americans itself.
You can say i'm complaining or even pulling the race card, but lets face it they are RACIST! Its not about boxing, skill, or belts, its about color shades. Why is that black fighters not only have to dominate their opponent in the ring but they have to sell themselves to even get the recognition and the credit they deserve? Fighters from Jack Johnson, Ali, Mike Tyson, Roy Jones, and even Mayweather not only had to dominate but they had to act a fool to marketed themselves. Where as white fighters like Joe C, Kelly Pavil (at one time), Klitch bros and the one that takes the cake MANNY PACQUIAO can fight bums, remain humble and get all the credit in the world.
No matter who Mayweather fights its never good enough. He beat castillo, they said he lost, he beat him again and they still complained. Hatton ko castillo and they said Floyd was ducking him, he ko'd him and they turned around and said he was too small. Floyd went up to 154 got the official belt at the official weight they said Oscar was too old. Two years later Oscar drained down to 147 and got stopped by Pac and they gave him fighter of the year. Pac turned around and ko hatton after floyd and got fighter of the decade. Margarito a MEXICAN beat cot first, Pac beat him and they compared him to armstrong and ali. Mosley kos Mayorga and Margarito and loses 12 brutal rounds to floyd, they say Mosley is too old. Pac beats Margarito the WW for the 154 title and he's rated the best fighter ever? I don't understand this ****..
Marquez goes up to 144, they say he was bloated and didn't belong at that weight. Now Roach says bring him to 147 cuz Manny isn't going to do a catch weight?? The catch weight king isn't going to do a catch weight??
If Floyd ever fights Pac, which i doubt because they're going for Marquez. If floyd wins they'll say...he was too small, a congress man etc..
The only racist I see here is the one on USTREAM. Add this to your dictionary: Discrimination.
Research that fool.
How Boring. Another RACE CARD topic. And it's always the BLACK.
How Boring. Another RACE CARD topic. And it's always the BLACK.
How Boring. Another RACE CARD topic. And it's always the BLACK.
How Boring. Another RACE CARD topic. And it's always the BLACK.
How Boring. Another RACE CARD topic. And it's always the BLACK.
How Boring. Another RACE CARD topic. And it's always the BLACK.
U must didn't know...Asians consider themselves white!
Freak ! Get out of your mom's basement. Asians are much discriminated as blacks do in US. Can you please broaden your horizons to see the real world?
I root for Pac now, but the way they talk about him is sickening....The dude fought Margarito the WW for the 154 title. He weighed 144 and Margarito weighed 150. Margarito should've came to 147 or manny should've went to 140...theres no way that was a JMW fight considering the fact both of them aren't JMW~
Are you out of your mind? Margarito to further drain to 147? WTH, he wouldn't last to round 6.
You can say i'm complaining or even pulling the race card, but lets face it they are RACIST! Its not about boxing, skill, or belts, its about color shades. Why is that black fighters not only have to dominate their opponent in the ring but they have to sell themselves to even get the recognition and the credit they deserve? Fighters from Jack Johnson, Ali, Mike Tyson, Roy Jones, and even Mayweather not only had to dominate but they had to act a fool to marketed themselves. Where as white fighters like Joe C, Kelly Pavil (at one time), Klitch bros and the one that takes the cake MANNY PACQUIAO can fight bums, remain humble and get all the credit in the world.
No matter who Mayweather fights its never good enough. He beat castillo, they said he lost, he beat him again and they still complained. Hatton ko castillo and they said Floyd was ducking him, he ko'd him and they turned around and said he was too small. Floyd went up to 154 got the official belt at the official weight they said Oscar was too old. Two years later Oscar drained down to 147 and got stopped by Pac and they gave him fighter of the year. Pac turned around and ko hatton after floyd and got fighter of the decade. Margarito a MEXICAN beat cot first, Pac beat him and they compared him to armstrong and ali. Mosley kos Mayorga and Margarito and loses 12 brutal rounds to floyd, they say Mosley is too old. Pac beats Margarito the WW for the 154 title and he's rated the best fighter ever? I don't understand this ****..
Marquez goes up to 144, they say he was bloated and didn't belong at that weight. Now Roach says bring him to 147 cuz Manny isn't going to do a catch weight?? The catch weight king isn't going to do a catch weight??
If Floyd ever fights Pac, which i doubt because they're going for Marquez. If floyd wins they'll say...he was too small, a congress man etc..
If you stop babying Floyd and tell him to face Pacman with no strigns attached, none of this would have to be argued.
OK, i'll give you one good argument. Honestly man, you're too generalizing the whole boxing industry and yet all your complains are all about Floyd. Ok, let's talk about Floyd. True, he's one of the best fighter out there. In fact, he could be the best bar none. Why I said that? Because he is a speed demon, a defensive tactician and a master of sweet science.
HOWEVER (and those are in capital letters), I see 3 flaws in him.
First, he's a prima donna. He's very difficult to deal with. Just see the different interviews he had over this past few years. He always think he's always right. Not that i'm complaining about how he brags about his skills but let's be real here, he should tone down his ego.
Second, he holds that zero like it's the golden egg. Mistaken as he is, nobody gives a sh*t whether you have a clean slate in your records. Great fighters are not measured from how many fight they win BUT rather, on how many great battles they endured and tough luck, some of it are in losing fashion.
Third, he's so in love with himself. A narcissistic paranoid attitude bordering on acute hallucination and detachment from reality. He's living in his own bubble where utopic accolades are showered upon him. Well, if he happens to browse a few minutes outside his box, he would have learned that man indeed is not an island. He will never be the best in boxing by himself alone. He need a worthy opponent to be great.
Read back through history. All the great boxers attained the pinnacle of their careers precisely because they had overcome unsurmountable opponents. Breaking records and redefining what is the norm. COLOR OF THE SKIN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. It is all about the heart of being a true champion lording over a worthy opponent. From Joe Louis to Ali to SRR, from Hagler to SRL, ODLH to Pacman. They all took it to the limit.
Floyd should, i mean, MUST do the same thing also. It's should not be all about the money, it should be also about legacy.
You can thank their own demographic for that. Even the African American community isn't tuning in or showing up to their fights. Its not a racist issue, its an interest issue. If African American fighters were being supported by their own people, which they aren't, then you would have a valid point. HBO, Showtime, and ESPN have tried hard to tap into the Afro American market with fighters such as Berto, Kirkland, Dawson, Dirrel, Ward, etc, but they aren't biting.
I did say it might be the audience. But the thing about that is, African Americans only make up a small percentage of American citizens. What does that tell u?
It seems more like RACIAL BIASED rather than racism. I can understand it when u have third world countries producing really tough exciting fighters, while the US (with all it's state of the art equipment, vitamins, and strategies that every other gym uses) produces ur run of the mill good boxers just waiting to get tested and proven to be overrated like Alexander (maybe not really, but that's certainly how he looked). But than u got Paul Williams leaving it all in the ring and still not getting fans? Come on...