Pacquiao is past his prime......

Tua this is a bit silly. floyd is much further out of his prime than MP is. I ould argue MP is better than ever. Floyd on the other hand is getting hit with right hands that would have been slow motion for him 5 years ago. Floyd is demonstrating the natural progression of a fighter as he ages and gains mass, Pacquiao does not show **** natural progression (at least not in a very noticeable sense). Floyd is slower, his reflexes have markedly diminished, his effective power as he has gone up in weight class has also gone down. Pac is just a bit slower, but his stamina is the same, his power seems to have increased, and he doesn't seem to get seriously hurt, just minor stuns, no matter the bombs landed.

Get the excuses ready! Pac is younger than may and fought easier competition but hes past his prime lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

......all downhill from here. Floyd should wait for 1 more fight. Pacquiao will be ready to go by late next year. Tua this is a bit silly. floyd is much further out of his prime than MP is. I ould argue MP is better than ever. Floyd on the other hand is getting hit with right hands that would have been slow motion for him 5 years ago.

that could be it but i don't know. something has been off since the cotto fight. hard to explain. clottey fight i thought oh it's just how clottey fought like a *****. this time i don't know. maybe he didn't train as hard? don't know..... we'll see. Cotto damages people. I've said it again and again, you may beat him but he takes something out of you too. It's weird Pac mentioned him, and not Margarito after the fight....

I dont know and we dont know yet, Marg had a huge heart and granite chin last night. Though I agree age is his worst opponent.

you don't have to be worn down or inactive to go downhill. those certainly apply though. it's human nature. everyone hits a physical prime and right after they peak it goes down. I know what you're saying but you're severely discounting the fact that Floyd's barely fought lately so obviously there's going to be some ring rust.

And what am i trying to say exactly? Please de-code my secret code lol, Again but fighter are in the same place IMO at the moment, That is my opinion not yours.. Both fighters are past their prime but not shot. ok lets play your game, lets say you not trying to say something. But is Floydie and PAC fights the same times every year? Isnt Floyd only fights once a year? WHen Floyd is on vacation, PAC is fighting am i right? In their past bouts, who fought the more bigger and dangerous oppoenents? And who has taken much more damage? Is it Floyd who fought JMM? a lightweight? Or PAC who fought Cotto? Who has more damage? Floyd vs Mosley? just two clean punch And for PAC vs MARG? who has more risk and still win? Now tell me all of those facts you read, you still think Floyd and PAC is in the same stage of their career? There is a reason why Floyd is having a vacation, and letting manny fighting the dangerous guys. He's a opportunistic, in every sense of the word. This is cowardly at its best.

cmon now. You dont have to say it word by word, to see what you really trying to say. And what am i trying to say exactly? Please de-code my secret code lol, Again but fighter are in the same place IMO at the moment, That is my opinion not yours.. Both fighters are past their prime but not shot.

Again show me where i quote those above or STFU, And please restrain from name-calling, Thats so 2002.. If you have a different opinion to mine fine great for you. My opinion doesnt change (Both fighters are at the same stage not shot a bit past their respective prime). cmon now. You dont have to say it word by word, to see what you really trying to say. Dont play dumb. Its not name calling, if its a fact. Then im just saying the truth. retard :haha:

are you retarded or something? you just said you think both of them are in the same stage of their career. You basically said both PAC and MAY is fighting the same times every year, you saying that Floyd is taking the same damage as PAC in their recent bout? You comparing a JMM to a Margs in power? really? And add to that since 16 PAC is already fighting, but with Floyd he is in the amateur with a ****ing headgear on. Again show me where i quote those above or STFU, And please restrain from name-calling, Thats so 2002.. If you have a different opinion to mine fine great for you. My opinion doesnt change (Both fighters are at the same stage not shot a bit past their respective prime).

the gameplan was fine when pac used it. yeah I dont know what round, but he used the same game plan when he fought Cotto, he was more effective and taking less damage. But for some reason, he always go back to the ropes and trading there. Roach always say stay off the ropes, go slip and slide to the side. But PAC cant seem to do it. That body shot was a close call.

what pacquiao did last night was legendary anyybody that can't see that is an idiot straight up

So you cant show me where i said that? thanks.. Back to your post i dont think either fighter is shot or war-torn, Both have their advantages and disadvantages if i look at it now. Pac hasnt been in much trouble in the last 3 years expect for the JMM rematch, He has been active and destroying people without taking too much back in return. Mayweather has been in active with 2 fights over the same 3 years, He has slow down enough for him to be hit with right hands in those two fights, So yes both fighters are in the same boat to me at the moment. When either of them goes through a beating the same way Margarito,Mosley or Cotto had to go through then get back to me. are you retarded or something? you just said you think both of them are in the same stage of their career. You basically said both PAC and MAY is fighting the same times every year, you saying that Floyd is taking the same damage as PAC in their recent bout? You comparing a JMM to a Margs in power? really? And add to that since 16 PAC is already fighting, but with Floyd he is in the amateur with a ****ing headgear on.

I blame the game plan also, I never thought PAc would trade against Marg. But with that said, there is many instances that PAC is getting a breather. He is getting more likely to get tired. Obviously he's body cant keep up to the pace, he wants to do. the gameplan was fine when pac used it.

I have to agree Pac was past it since Torreocampo ....

watch it on hbo replay. you might notice it more. it's hard to tell though. i let the clottey thing go because i blamed clottey's style. this time i around there was just something off with him. i mean yeah he was kicking ass but he didn't have the usual bounce and sharpness. sounds weird because he was still fast as hell and couldn't miss. check it out on the replay next week. or if someone uploads a hq video. I blame the game plan also, I never thought PAc would trade against Marg. But with that said, there is many instances that PAC is getting a breather. He is getting more likely to get tired. Obviously he's body cant keep up to the pace, he wants to do.

dont play no kid games, cmon now. you saying both pac and floyd is at the same stage of their career but obviously pac been fighting more and against the best and the same time floyd is on vacation. dont bull**** me. So you cant show me where i said that? thanks.. Back to your post i dont think either fighter is shot or war-torn, Both have their advantages and disadvantages if i look at it now. Pac hasnt been in much trouble in the last 3 years expect for the JMM rematch, He has been active and destroying people without taking too much back in return. Mayweather has been in active with 2 fights over the same 3 years, He has slow down enough for him to be hit with right hands in those two fights, So yes both fighters are in the same boat to me at the moment. When either of them goes through a beating the same way Margarito,Mosley or Cotto had to go through then get back to me.

I didnt. :dance: xmeforums.com watch it on hbo replay. you might notice it more. it's hard to tell though. i let the clottey thing go because i blamed clottey's style. this time i around there was just something off with him. i mean yeah he was kicking ass but he didn't have the usual bounce and sharpness. sounds weird because he was still fast as hell and couldn't miss. check it out on the replay next week. or if someone uploads a hq video.

Ok that was funny. lol They both arent what they once was but they are still bar none the best 2 fighters in boxing which makes it a moot point imo. for how long will PAc be on top? You think fighting wars like against MArg wont affect you? meanwhile floyd is tear free, dont give me "but hes going to be rusty" even roger confirm he always in the gym. The fact is we know floyd is saving himself like a virgin for pac to pop his cherry :haha:

A lot of people would say that Floyd aint exactly in his prime right now either to be honest. dont lie floyd is no near being past his prime, the way he's fighting right now he is at the top of his game. He doesnt even uses his footwork anymore for god sake, what does that tell you? He only uses he's reflexes and speed, and both of them is the first one to go if your over the hill.