I'm sorry but if anybody credits Pac for going for his 8th title in a WW fight has to be crazy. This has to be the funniest thing i've seen in boxing. THis is a WW fight lol
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so according to you theory Ivan Calderon can fight for the 154 lb title.........what do you think guys? is Mr Cuba is a Pacnut Hugger?
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Theoretically, he could. Realistically, he probably wouldn't.
so according to you theory Ivan Calderon can fight for the 154 lb title.........what do you think guys? is Mr Cuba is a Pacnut Hugger?
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there is no weight minimum:, theres a weight maximum.
The #1 and #2 best P4Ps all time both had title fights where they weighed one less than the weight limit in their time, two today. Even Armstrong depended the WW belt weighing as a LW. That's one of the reasons they are great today because they were able to do it. I don't see why Pac can't and shouldn't do it himself. He's already considered ATG anyways.
There's no hope for you guys.....
Manny is cheating boxing period...
If u wanna bring Floyd up?
Floyd/Oscar Floyd 148, Oscar 154. We've already seen a WW beat a JMW
148 is JMW.
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My post went right over your head NOW CLASS HAS ENDED for sure.
your posts have no point. you are trying to argue about the nature of weight divisions just to say that pac shouldn't come that low during the weigh in when there isn't even a rule stating a "minimum weight" requirement. you might as well argue about gravity and why it doesn't let you fly like a unicorn over a fckin rainbow.
i didnt know 150 is welterweight? hmmmm
so when floyd weighed 150 against daddy oscar it was ok but its not ok if marg weighs in that much?1st of all your jokes get lamer and lamer but that's neither here nor there at this point---that was oscar's fault--e said floyd had to weigh at least 150 pounds at the weigh-in, and floyd did--manny said tony and him are fighting at 150 pounds and only one of them showed up as such--manny knows this fight is about speed---this is tony's
1st time fighting at 150, and when floyd fought oscar, oscar was used to 154 pounds, not a catchweight, manny is already faster than margarito---now with less weight, he'll be much faster--would his punches have the same speed at 150 as they would at 144.5? floyd's punches were slower at 150 than they were at 140 and 147-----while oscar punched like he usually did at 154 seeing how he fought there enough times---manny is smaller, yes---but he will outspeed tony weighing less than him---maybe it'll backfire on manny--i don't know---we'll see----
who the fck called other fighters cowards? there is not a single rule that's created to reinforce the "minimum weight limit" issue and yet here you are arguing about the perceived "morality" of this fight in terms of "pac's safety". the man is a fckin boxer, and before that, he lived in the streets, and now he's dealing with politics in a violent 3rd world country, he has gone thru worse risks than this, brah.
i said it before and i'll say it again, it doesn't fckin matter who, what, when, where or fckin how the weight divisions were created... the fact that there is no such thing as a "minimum weight limit" means that any fighter can weigh as light as he wants to without any penalties.
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My post went right over your head NOW CLASS HAS ENDED for sure.
Im sorry I cant debate with a guy who is going to start putting words in my mouth then go ahead and debate it....wheres the NEVER in my statement, in my post?
Dumbass divisions were put in place to protect the health of fighters. I know some of you guys are obsessed with Pac because you believe him to be superman or super drug man whatever. But if Pac is hospitalized or put in a coma ...I bet you will all rethink this. Why do you think this does not happen regularly? Not because fighters are cowards but because its not allowed for most. You ask Allowed?
Well commissions are not creating belts for weight classes in between weights and allowing fighters to win divisions in that class. Only for Pac.
And the only thing dummies see is...HE DA MAN...lol
Many fighters would do the same thing given the opportunities.
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who the fck called other fighters cowards? there is not a single rule that's created to reinforce the "minimum weight limit" issue and yet here you are arguing about the perceived "morality" of this fight in terms of "pac's safety". the man is a fckin boxer, and before that, he lived in the streets, and now he's dealing with politics in a violent 3rd world country, he has gone thru worse risks than this, brah.
i said it before and i'll say it again, it doesn't fckin matter who, what, when, where or fckin how the weight divisions were created... the fact that there is no such thing as a "minimum weight limit" means that any fighter can weigh as light as he wants to without any penalties.
you sure it never happened??? NEVER!!?? you can still retract that statement if you wish... consider this a "check" in terms of chess.
class dismissed.
Im sorry I cant debate with a guy who is going to start putting words in my mouth then go ahead and debate it....wheres the NEVER in my statement, in my post?
Dumbass divisions were put in place to protect the health of fighters. I know some of you guys are obsessed with Pac because you believe him to be superman or super drug man whatever. But if Pac is hospitalized or put in a coma ...I bet you will all rethink this. Why do you think this does not happen regularly? Not because fighters are cowards but because its not allowed for most. You ask Allowed?
Well commissions are not creating belts for weight classes in between weights and allowing fighters to win divisions in that class. Only for Pac.
And the only thing dummies see is...HE DA MAN...lol
Many fighters would do the same thing given the opportunities.
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So boxers from different weight classes don't fight each other for the heavier fighters belt ...why? why does this not happen...When there is so much money to be made. Class in session.
you sure it never happened??? NEVER!!?? you can still retract that statement if you wish... consider this a "check" in terms of chess.
class dismissed.
i don't get what? that you think divisions have both a maximum and minimum weight limit?
i will try and put it in simpler terms... are you familiar with basic geometry?
ok weight divisions are like rays (there is a maximum limit but there is no minimum limit) as opposed to line segments (maximum and minimum weight limit).
it doesn't fcking matter who, what, when, where, or fckin how weight divisions were created, the point is that there is no "minimum weight limit".
class dismissed.
So boxers from different weight classes don't fight each other for the heavier fighters belt ...why? why does this not happen...When there is so much money to be made. Class in session.
Antonio Margarito is a Jr. Middleweight in this fight. And theoretically, you can fight at any wait close to the limit and it's still a Jr. Middleweight fight. That's been a part of boxing.
Nonetheless, it's not a linear title so it's not that big of a deal to begin with.
WTF are u talking about here?? I thought u were saying pac is getting special treatment with the catchweight?? Again pac is the ****in man for fighting a guy soo much bigger than him.
Your lost and blinded by balls. I hope Pac shaved for your sake.
All you pactards will see different if Pac is put in a hospital because the commission is letting this guy do what he wants, thinking nothing can happen.
Why do you think the commissions are not doing this all the time?
why do you think the commissions dont create these fights all the time in between weightclasses for specific belts?...I mean the boxers and the commissions can make more money? why not? Just let any fighter in any weight class fight the for the fighter who weighs more title but at any weight?.....Is ti starting to sink in yet?...or is manny the man!!!!.lol
You know Im a boxing fan and I do have favorite fighters but I am not obsessed to the point that I make believe I ont know why rules divisions were put into place.
ALL YOU GUYS THAT DEFEND THIS RIDICULOUS WEIGHT CRAP WILL SEE DIFFERENT IF PAC IS HOSPITALIZED>>>>>GUARANTEED.
Lets just have Hopkins fight Haye and hope Haye doesn't hurt Hopkins (Hopkins is great)..lol
For the heavyweight championship of the world...it does not matter becasue there is no minimum weight.
now you're the safety queen? lmao... unfckinbelievable...
i didnt know 150 is welterweight? hmmmm
so when floyd weighed 150 against daddy oscar it was ok but its not ok if marg weighs in that much?
You're quite the obnoxious cunt, aren't ye?
Ok Senor Vague.
Divisions were created to protect the fighter from being hurt.
You will understand if Pac was put in a coma.
Wake up and stop acting like you dont get it....or even scarier...you dont get it?
i don't get what? that you think divisions have both a maximum and minimum weight limit?
i will try and put it in simpler terms... are you familiar with basic geometry?
ok weight divisions are like rays (there is a maximum limit but there is no minimum limit) as opposed to line segments (maximum and minimum weight limit).
it doesn't fcking matter who, what, when, where, or fckin how weight divisions were created, the point is that there is no "minimum weight limit".
class dismissed.
Now they care more about Manny being a small man for this fight, and they say that this shouldn't be aloud co'z there is a weight division and the small man might get in a coma for fighting a big/weight division..
Un-f'ucking-believable :nonono:
You know Im a boxing fan and I do have favorite fighters but I am not obsessed to the point that I make believe I ont know why rules divisions were put into place.
ALL YOU GUYS THAT DEFEND THIS RIDICULOUS WEIGHT CRAP WILL SEE DIFFERENT IF PAC IS HOSPITALIZED>>>>>GUARANTEED.
Lets just have Hopkins fight Haye and hope Haye doesn't hurt Hopkins (Hopkins is great)..lol
For the heavyweight championship of the world...it does not matter becasue there is no minimum weight.
WTF are u talking about here?? I thought u were saying pac is getting special treatment with the catchweight?? Again pac is the ****in man for fighting a guy soo much bigger than him.
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