More dangerous opponent for Pacquiao: Margarito or Berto? Official Poll!

The answer is simple...who is a more dangerous fight for Manny?? I'd say the guy he isnt fighting and leave it at that...

Dude, you're an idiot. Really how long have you been watching boxing? Who's alt are you? F'ing moron. Stop the press...This my real account and i been watching boxing for 22 years. I can tell you when a fighter has talent or is just HYPE! Manny hasnt fought a legit opponent since Marquez. I dont really wanna get into this old debate but Oscar at 147, clottey, and now Margarito...I mean come on...how technical do you have to be to beat opponents like them? I give Manny credit for beating Cotto even tho cotto wasnt the same. I thought he would give more problems then he did. Other then cotto what has he really done? Manny will get ate alive by a technical boxer...trust me... Mike Tyson was knocking people out could...what happened when he fought a boxer....GOOD NIGHT!

Manny is still the same fighter all Offs. no real defs. Manny weakness is a slick boxer, hens JMM, 1st fight Manny dropped him 3X 1 round but JMM made the adjustments to pullout a draw, then the second fight JMM made great adjustment and got down manny range which it was another great fight n which i felt JMM won. but we knw the results. A fighter that can make adjustmens and can counter(AKA Slick Boxers) is Mannys weakness. Thats y you havnt seen him fighting any slick boxers since JMM. We haven't seen it because no one was of high enough caliber with a decent following. Other than Mayweather, and we know how that played out.

I'm not talking about fighters trying to last the full distance. I'm talking about fighters who's game plan is to only out-box him. Barrera and Cotto tried to put some serious hurt on him. They didn't actually try and out-box him with the intentions of winning a decision. They're the kind of fighters who look for knockouts. Berto isn't like that. I know Marquez didn't just box with Pacquiao. That's why I said he wasn't truly a pure boxer. Marquez is known to get into wild exchanges with fighters and throw big punches. That's the not best thing to do against Pacquiao because you're putting yourself at a serious risk. The first Morales fight was a long time ago. Pacquiao's a different fighter now, but I still believe a pure boxer is his weakness. Manny is still the same fighter all Offs. no real defs. Manny weakness is a slick boxer, hens JMM, 1st fight Manny dropped him 3X 1 round but JMM made the adjustments to pullout a draw, then the second fight JMM made great adjustment and got down manny range which it was another great fight n which i felt JMM won. but we knw the results. A fighter that can make adjustmens and can counter(AKA Slick Boxers) is Mannys weakness. Thats y you havnt seen him fighting any slick boxers since JMM.

Not if the pure boxer doesn't have a decent workrate or durability to match. If Berto had a workrate/endurance to work for 3 minutes of every round I would say Berto is definitely the more competitive fight. However he doesn't. I think Berto has good enough stamina. He might not constantly throw punches but he still gets off a good amount and then ties you up to avoid any danger. That could be good against someone like Pacquiao.

More importantly than it even being exciting, is it will be competitive. Margarito is a very competitive fight. Also, if you want to worry about catchweights, then maybe you should skip Punisher-Martinez. If you recall, Punisher stipulated a catchweight as well. Unless of course there is a double standard present here. Personally I won't worry about trinkets, and instead focus on exciting, aesthetically pleasing, competitive fights. Btw I'll be at Punisher-Martinez in AC, can't wait. Big difference,The Punisher is fighting the middleweight champion Sergio Mora for his title,but for the record I would have preferred it at 160!!I personally believe that titles & championships should hold more weight than the mythical term pfp,but that's just me!!If it was labeled as simply an exciting fight,it would have been fine by me,but breaking records with this fight,to me,is shameful!!

I'm not talking about fighters trying to last the full distance. I'm talking about fighters who's game plan is to only out-box him. Barrera and Cotto tried to put some serious hurt on him. They didn't actually try and out-box him the intentions of winning a decision. They're the kind of fighters who look for knockouts. Berto isn't like that. I know Marquez didn't just box with Pacquiao. That's why I said he wasn't truly a pure boxer. Marquez is known to get into wild exchanges with fighters and throw big punches. That's the not best thing to do against Pacquiao because you're putting yourself at a serious risk. The first Morales fight was a long time ago. Pacquiao's a different fighter now, but I still believe a pure boxer is his weakness. Not if the pure boxer doesn't have a decent workrate or durability to match. If Berto had a workrate/endurance to work for 3 minutes of every round I would say Berto is definitely the more competitive fight. However he doesn't.

berto has the best chance of lasting 12 rounds, because of his running and hugging, hence he will have a better chance of beating pac than margarito. yes I agree. That's a false assumption. Every fighter that runs from pac can last 12 rounds. Barrera went 12 rounds cause he didn't want to fight, he wanted to make it to the final bell. Same can be said of cotto. once cotto got fukked up / gased, he decided to run for the rest of the fight. he coulda went another round, but the ref stopped it. You can run from pac, but you will still lose. That said... what JMM did was different. JMM punched w/ pac, he didn't just box pac. Just watch the fights. when jmm is punching, pac is backing up. when jmm is punching with pac, pac is getting hit and resets. but morales came forward against pac and beat him in their first fight. I'm not talking about fighters trying to last the full distance. I'm talking about fighters who's game plan is to only out-box him. Barrera and Cotto tried to put some serious hurt on him. They didn't actually try and out-box him with the intentions of winning a decision. They're the kind of fighters who look for knockouts. Berto isn't like that. I know Marquez didn't just box with Pacquiao. That's why I said he wasn't truly a pure boxer. Marquez is known to get into wild exchanges with fighters and throw big punches. That's the not best thing to do against Pacquiao because you're putting yourself at a serious risk. The first Morales fight was a long time ago. Pacquiao's a different fighter now, but I still believe a pure boxer is his weakness.

Gotcha,forget that the pfp king is going for a record 8th division title in a catchweight fight against a cheater & simply be happy that this fight is gonna be exciting & cost 50 or more dollars right??So should I just laugh after Corrales & Castillo for being stupid enough to not put their fight on ppv as well??Championships should hold more weight than pfp,but on bs,it clearly doesn't!!I won't pay for that fight,but I sure am gonna watch the Punisher-Martinez in a very meaningful championship fight the week after though!!:boxing: More importantly than it even being exciting, is it will be competitive. Margarito is a very competitive fight. Also, if you want to worry about catchweights, then maybe you should skip Punisher-Martinez. If you recall, Punisher stipulated a catchweight as well. Unless of course there is a double standard present here. Personally I won't worry about trinkets, and instead focus on exciting, aesthetically pleasing, competitive fights. Btw I'll be at Punisher-Martinez in AC, can't wait.

berto has the best chance of lasting 12 rounds, because of his running and hugging, hence he will have a better chance of beating pac than margarito. yes I agree. That's a false assumption. Every fighter that runs from pac can last 12 rounds. Barrera went 12 rounds cause he didn't want to fight, he wanted to make it to the final bell. Same can be said of cotto. once cotto got fukked up / gased, he decided to run for the rest of the fight. he coulda went another round, but the ref stopped it. You can run from pac, but you will still lose. That said... what JMM did was different. JMM punched w/ pac, he didn't just box pac. Just watch the fights. when jmm is punching, pac is backing up. when jmm is punching with pac, pac is getting hit and resets. but morales came forward against pac and beat him in their first fight. I'm not talking about fighters trying to last the full distance. I'm talking about fighters who's game plan is to only out-box him. Barrera and Cotto tried to put some serious hurt on him. They didn't actually try and out-box him the intentions of winning a decision. They're the kind of fighters who look for knockouts. Berto isn't like that. I know Marquez didn't just box with Pacquiao. That's why I said he wasn't truly a pure boxer. Marquez is known to get into wild exchanges with fighters and throw big punches. That's the not best thing to do against Pacquiao because you're putting yourself at a serious risk. The first Morales fight was a long time ago. Pacquiao's a different fighter now, but I still believe a pure boxer is his weakness.

If you're actually worried about belts, then you miss the point. The belts mean nothing. The sanctioning bodies are a joke, and they didn't just start being a joke with this fight. They've been a joke for a good while now. Pacquiao's not great b/c he stands to win 8 divisional titles. He's great because he's kicking everyone's ass. Mayweather isn't great because he's won X amount of titles. He's great b/c he's boxing everyone's ears off. Gotcha,forget that the pfp king is going for a record 8th division title in a catchweight fight against a cheater & simply be happy that this fight is gonna be exciting & cost 50 or more dollars right??So should I just laugh after Corrales & Castillo for being stupid enough to not put their fight on ppv as well??Championships should hold more weight than pfp,but on bs,it clearly doesn't!!I won't pay for that fight,but I sure am gonna watch the Punisher-Martinez in a very meaningful championship fight the week after though!!:boxing:

Yup,I said it'll be entertaining,that part is fine,but having Pacman go for a record 8th div title by beating Margarito is indeed a sham!!People spout on about title not meaning anything well they actually do mean something!!But most posters on here have it Backwards,Titles are more meaningful than pfp,pfp is a mythical term,championships are real,they shouldn't be thrown around like pfp is not!!Lesser fighters than Pacman have went up in weight & beaten real fvcking champions at that weight!!But the pfp king #2 welterweight is fighting for a vacant belt against a cheater for a record 8th division & ya'll are ok with that,it's simply amazing!! If you're actually worried about belts, then you miss the point. The belts mean nothing. The sanctioning bodies are a joke, and they didn't just start being a joke with this fight. They've been a joke for a good while now. Pacquiao's not great b/c he stands to win 8 divisional titles. He's great because he's kicking everyone's ass. Mayweather isn't great because he's won X amount of titles. He's great b/c he's boxing everyone's ears off.

berto is the harder fight for sure. he has the style to beat pacquiao unlike margarito who is 100% tailor made for pac. on top of that berto is basicly peaking right now as oposed to margarito who looked garbage in his last two fights. he isnt very old but hes been fighting since he was like 15-16 and took loads of punishment basicly every fight, we still dont know if his punch resistance and mentality is the same from the beating shane gave him. looking at his only fight since then i would say no. berto damn sure isnt a huge threat to pac, hes barely a threat at all. but margarito poses no threat whatsoever. pac is taking the easiest fight available to him.

It depends on what you mean by dangerous. If you mean who presents the best chance at beating him, I think it's Berto. berto has the best chance of lasting 12 rounds, because of his running and hugging, hence he will have a better chance of beating pac than margarito. yes I agree. Marquez wasn't truly a pure boxer, but he was the closest thing to it among all of Pacquiao's opponents. And we all know how close those fights were. That's a false assumption. Every fighter that runs from pac can last 12 rounds. Barrera went 12 rounds cause he didn't want to fight, he wanted to make it to the final bell. Same can be said of cotto. once cotto got fukked up / gased, he decided to run for the rest of the fight. he coulda went another round, but the ref stopped it. You can run from pac, but you will still lose. That said... what JMM did was different. JMM punched w/ pac, he didn't just box pac. Just watch the fights. when jmm is punching, pac is backing up. when jmm is punching with pac, pac is getting hit and resets. All opponents who constantly come forward at Pacquiao become punching bags, though. Just look at what happened to Hatton. Hatton puts a lot of pressure and he's faster with his punches than Margarito is, yet Pacquiao made easy work of him. but morales came forward against pac and beat him in their first fight.

How can it be a sham when the fight like you say is goin' to be entertaining. I mean thats the reason why we buy the PPV's to begin with, right? Anything else is just inconsequential... The belts are there just there to promote this fight, which is what Top Rank is suppose to do.. But its the nature of the competitiveness for this fight that sells.. Yup,I said it'll be entertaining,that part is fine,but having Pacman go for a record 8th div title by beating Margarito is indeed a sham!!People spout on about title not meaning anything well they actually do mean something!!But most posters on here have it Backwards,Titles are more meaningful than pfp,pfp is a mythical term,championships are real,they shouldn't be thrown around like pfp is not!!Lesser fighters than Pacman have went up in weight & beaten real fvcking champions at that weight!!But the pfp king #2 welterweight is fighting for a vacant belt against a cheater for a record 8th division & ya'll are ok with that,it's simply amazing!!

that's not the same as "dangerous". will berto frustrate pac with his speed and power... yes. is berto more dangerous than margarito? hell no. berto will run and hug and try to last 12 rounds. margarito will be dangerous as long he's able to stand and throw punches. nah... clottey is a punching bag... margarito actually throws punches back. It depends on what you mean by dangerous. If you mean who presents the best chance at beating him, I think it's Berto. Marquez wasn't truly a pure boxer, but he was the closest thing to it among all of Pacquiao's opponents. And we all know how close those fights were. All opponents who constantly come forward at Pacquiao become punching bags, though. Just look at what happened to Hatton. Hatton puts a lot of pressure and he's faster with his punches than Margarito is, yet Pacquiao made easy work of him.

The point of this thread, is fans should crave the most competitive fight. Regardless of styles and belts, at this moment the most competitive fight between Margarito and Berto is Margarito. I didn't take "dangerous" to mean "competitive". berto will be more competitive w/ pac in some respects, but he won't be as dangerous as margarito.

Berto, because Pacquiao doesn't do well against pure boxers. that's not the same as "dangerous". will berto frustrate pac with his speed and power... yes. is berto more dangerous than margarito? hell no. berto will run and hug and try to last 12 rounds. margarito will be dangerous as long he's able to stand and throw punches. Margarito is just a punching bag that comes forward. nah... clottey is a punching bag... margarito actually throws punches back.

Berto is fukin shiit The point of this thread, is fans should crave the most competitive fight. Regardless of styles and belts, at this moment the most competitive fight between Margarito and Berto is Margarito.

Berto, because Pacquiao doesn't do well against pure boxers. Margarito is just a punching bag that comes forward.