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...`I don't rate him (Margarito) as a great fighter, we've fought better, he's just bigger, and that's not going to help him. You'll see the best manny Pacquiao yet on Saturday night, I feel."
When asked what come next for Manny, especially if Mayweather doesn't accept the challenge, Roach said the team would consider 160 pounds. "Paul Williams, the winner of that fight, is that too big for us? I thought this is too big for us at one point, 160 might be next, maybe we will go to nine world titles. But let's take care of Margarito first."
If Manny gets Money, Freddie said, he'd like to see him win, and call it a day, the proverbial icing on the cake. And just like the fighter, he answered the same batch of questions he's been hearing day after day, hour after hour, patient as a saint.
-The Sweet Science, Nov 11, 2010
http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/8482/roach-bad-taste-jokesters-forgive-let-get-fight/
Catchweights had been happening in boxing since time immemorial. It's part of the sport.
No rules are being trampled and all the catchweights matches are being sanctioned and given the go signal by WBC and other boxing organizations/commissions.
So what's the problem with the flomos?
whether you like it or not, PACQUIAO would still be credited and go down in history with all of these titles. Haha!
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Sorry!:la:
Indeed.
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You're right about that. She sure didn't look the same after the 2000 Olympics, did she? All of a sudden couldn't beat anyone. Same with her husband. He didn't even qualify for the 2004 Olympics and she had a forgettable one. Right about the time the Feds busted BALCO and WADA instituted a new testing program. Indeed.
You do the research, go on the hunt, make a documentary and then come back here with the findings. Can't wait to see what groundbreaking new info you come back with. I know guys like Ivan Calderon feel the same way, he's been eye f*cking that 140 belt hard lately :lol1:
Nah, there's an easier way to find out. Or not.
I don't know, maybe we should find out?
You do the research, go on the hunt, make a documentary and then come back here with the findings. Can't wait to see what groundbreaking new info you come back with. I know guys like Ivan Calderon feel the same way, he's been eye f*cking that 140 belt hard lately :lol1:
No he's not but...
If PEDs are the reason why Manny has been able to do unprecedented things, move up in weight and dominate... then why could Shane do the same things? Now you say it's because of skill... before it was drugs.
Which is it?
Never said no one's using steroids. Just asking what special super secret steroids is Manny using that no one else has access to that is the reason he has done amazing things. They aren't as good as Manny. OK, So why does he need PEDs to do the things he's done that no one else taking PEDs can do then?
I don't know, maybe we should find out?
Shane Mosley isn't as good as Manny Pacquiao? Ok and?
No he's not but...
If PEDs are the reason why Manny has been able to do unprecedented things, move up in weight and dominate... then why could Shane do the same things? Now you say it's because of skill... before it was drugs.
Which is it?
Who told you he's the only boxer doing it? Take a look around. No one uses steroids? They aren't as good as Manny. Ok and?
Never said no one's using steroids. Just asking what special super secret steroids is Manny using that no one else has access to that is the reason he has done amazing things. They aren't as good as Manny. OK, So why does he need PEDs to do the things he's done that no one else taking PEDs can do then?
Answer the f*cking question. Shane Mosley had a pipeline of PEDS from BALCO which as far as we know was the premiere manufacturer of illegal enhancers. But Shane, or any other boxer in history with the excpetion of MAYBE a handful, hasn't done anything remotely resembling what Pac has accomplished.
Shane Mosley isn't as good as Manny Pacquiao? Ok and?
You think it's obvious that his success is due to steroids/PEDs. But why is he the ONLY boxer doing it? Did Ariza make his own personal new age drugs in a lab that's superior to every other PED on the Black market now and keeping it a secret between him and Manny (he also trains other fighters like Khan)?
Who told you he's the only boxer doing it? Take a look around. No one uses steroids? They aren't as good as Manny. Ok and?
If it's so 'obvious' like you say, then obviously it should be easy to answer these basic questions.
Well at least you got one thing right.
Do you think that somehow helps your point? Vargas and Mosley? Really? Or are you just on here trying to look cute?
Answer the f*cking question. Shane Mosley had a pipeline of PEDS from BALCO which as far as we know was the premiere manufacturer of illegal enhancers. But Shane, or any other boxer in history with the excpetion of MAYBE a handful, hasn't done anything remotely resembling what Pac has accomplished.
You think it's obvious that his success is due to steroids/PEDs. But why is he the ONLY boxer doing it? Did Ariza make his own personal new age drugs in a lab that's superior to every other PED on the Black market now and keeping it a secret between him and Manny (he also trains other fighters like Khan)?
If it's so 'obvious' like you say, then obviously it should be easy to answer these basic questions.
Really? They do? What belts in what weight classes do Vargas and Mosley have SEVEN or EIGHT of? Do you follow boxing at all?
He was being sarcastic, although I do question Pacquiao and his team for being up to something suspicious as far as Pacquiao's "clean" slate goes..
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Completely over your head. Go back and read what you said, then re-read my response.
Do you think that somehow helps your point? Vargas and Mosley? Really? Or are you just on here trying to look cute?
:lol1: @ Margarito staring at his body in the mirror and declaring, "no steroids in this body, my friends. All natural." Unfortunately, that might be his undoing.
Really? They do? What belts in what weight classes do Vargas and Mosley have SEVEN or EIGHT of? Do you follow boxing at all?
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Completely over your head. Go back and read what you said, then re-read my response.
Yup and that's why guys like Fernando Vargas and Shane Mosley have championships in 7, going on 8 or 9 different weight classes.
I mean, if it's so obvious... why aren't there more fighters doing what Manny is doing? Is Ariza Victor Conte's/BALCO's superior?
Really? They do? What belts in what weight classes do Vargas and Mosley have SEVEN or EIGHT of? Do you follow boxing at all?
he did..floyd rather stay in jail..
Stop it.... 7 days is not ALL DRUG TEST DEMANDS.. Let's call it waht it is, manny did't want the test, then he offered 30 days (NO)... 24 days (NO).. 14 days was offered (Manny said NO).
Floyd says ok, No cutoffs, now Manny wants 7... Manny walked away at 14, now he wants 7... Pretty simple
But in all realness, 7 days should be where it stops. So after this fight and Floyds case we'll see who balks and why.
Freddie Roach makes comments like this and wonders why people question Pac's cleanliness. Really? Natural welters can barely move to 160 but this guy who has suffered three losses in lower divisions can dominate in the higher ones. 60 fights into his long career? Can you imagine Barrera doing that? Get real. Pacquiao is an ATG there is no denying that. Sh*t, he probably was already one before he moved past 135. But what's going on here right now is beyond obvious.
Yup and that's why guys like Fernando Vargas and Shane Mosley have championships in 7, going on 8 or 9 different weight classes.
I mean, if it's so obvious... why aren't there more fighters doing what Manny is doing? Is Ariza Victor Conte's/BALCO's superior?
why dont you go to Papi Sulaiman and complain to him....maybe he could give it to your idol.... :bottle:
I'm complaining to you because it's your money that enables it. But you're too busy lapping it up to feel the tap on your shoulder.
why dont you go to Papi Sulaiman and complain to him....maybe he could give it to your idol.... :bottle:
No, two non-contenders fighting for a vacant title makes it illigitimate.