So because Freddie has this disability he is off the menu. He can get a free pass on talking crap. The whole issue was they are making fun of Freddie the individual. He just happens to have parkinsons though its not a joking matter he throws himself in the mix and makes himself open for shots like that. I beleive they were just making fun of him not of the disease. In all honesty I think peoples hate of Margo cause of the wraps so this is just another coal in the fire. Yet Mayweather does his little skit and hes just hyping up the fight. What Mayweather did was offend a nation. all for what? For a fight he wasnt even gonna jump in to. Hell even Pac mades fun of Mayweather when he did his little shoulder roll skit in the ring. This is the biggest fight of Margos career and pacs unless he fights Mayweather. Comics Make fun of people with disabilities all the time and nobody is asking for their heads on the stick. Im not saying it was right but it wasnt wrong either i just see it as trash talking getting under the skin and it worked. Game plans usually fall apart once emotions start flowing.
of course it was a poor choice on their part. But my whole issue is you play with fire you will get burned. Roach was fair game and it just happened that Margos camp went that far. There are certain indivduals that will take it to levels you and I wouldnt. margo is that guy and so is Rios. It all comes down to the individual and what his morals are.
Roach is fair game and I can make a list of stuff that you can talk crap about Roach.
However, the disease as Antonio and TheGreatA pointed out that is more boxing related and greats like SRR and Ali is stuff that you should not be poking fun about.
Like I said they deserve all the criticism they get for it, and really nobody should be defending it.
At the end of the day Marg and his team deserve all the criticism they get and nobody should be defending.
And, I like Marg and Rios. But, they messed up on this one.
of course it was a poor choice on their part. But my whole issue is you play with fire you will get burned. Roach was fair game and it just happened that Margos camp went that far. There are certain indivduals that will take it to levels you and I wouldnt. margo is that guy and so is Rios. It all comes down to the individual and what his morals are.
Do I? No...But Im saying they have already crossed that line..At this point nothing is off limits..
At the end of the day Marg and his team deserve all the criticism they get and nobody should be defending.
And, I like Marg and Rios. But, they messed up on this one.
I think it goes deeper than Roach just being like everyone else.
Boxing is supposed to be a fraternity of sort, and Parkinson's seems to be something that is a possible consequence of the sport. Fighters usually show sympathy to other fighters when it comes to stuff like that. At least they should.
This.
Roach's condition is likely the result of a tough career he had, but he is not alone in that. Two of the greatest ever boxers, Muhammad Ali and Ray Robinson also suffered from a similar condition, in Robinsons' case Alzheimers though which is different.
No, he is not off limits,
you can trash talk to Roach all you want.
However, there is a line that you don't cross and they crossed it.
And, they know it...
maybe freddie should make fun of AM dead brother cause it just trash talking
why not??? that is boxing
right??? lol
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wHY NOT...The line has obviously been crossed.
who said trash talk was regulated? that's why i said trash talk is a welcome sight in boxing.
and i've seen freddy roach in person. most down to earth dude i ever met. took a picture with him, when he placed his arms on my back it was shakin badly from tremors, so i do feel bad about the old fella and how this disease has affected him.
trash talk is trash talk, do it all you want but delving in deeper than the confines of boxing and using a person's disease against him is kinda dumb. sure you can do it, but does that make it right? you should know the answer to that.
Of course its not right but if we all did what was right we wouldnt be having thsi convo right now. Just cause you wouldntcross that line doesnt mean nobody else will. People will go to the limits to gain an edge or throw off the game plan. Obviously Margo doesnt have any limits when it comes to bettering his position to try to get the W. It is what it is...All of sudden we are acting like Roger goodell and limiting the action on hits but in this instance its trash talk..There are lives money and belts and redemption on the line......Do think it was wrong? YES!. IS it a big deal? NO!
I think it goes deeper than Roach just being like everyone else.
Boxing is supposed to be a fraternity of sort, and Parkinson's seems to be something that is a possible consequence of the sport. Fighters usually show sympathy to other fighters when it comes to stuff like that. At least they should.
& I agree it was a bad move by Marg and his team, but in the end it's probably rolling off of Roach's back, he is the one after all that has to live with the illness.
I guess what i'm saying is that Roach should expect retaliation and sometimes it will get uglier then it should.
& in the end Marg looks like the damn fool for even opening his mouth about the subject.
I'm not saying it right to make fun of a man's illness, specially a serious one for that matter, but if Roach is going to dish it out with the best of them he better be able to take it as well. Honestly, I do think Roach has the skin of a rhino and the general public is more outraged and offended then he is.
The thing is Roach never dish personal health issues,personal problems,etc.All he does is trash talk in BOXING.
Now there are a lot of ill feelings towards the Margarito camp that they might get karma come fight night.
Trash talk isnt regulated..Go hard or go home..Tell me this do you feel sorry for roach when you see him. I gurantee he wouldnt want you feeling sorry for him. I dont hate the dude but when you talk crap sooner or later someones gonna eith say something or bust you. I think he got lucky. What im saying is if you just train and keep yourself away from situations where you open your mouth you will be ok. Let the fighter hype the fight..Actions are always louder than words...Silent but deadly..you get what im saying.
who said trash talk was regulated? that's why i said trash talk is a welcome sight in boxing.
and i've seen freddy roach in person. most down to earth dude i ever met. took a picture with him, when he placed his arms on my back it was shakin badly from tremors, so i do feel bad about the old fella and how this disease has affected him.
trash talk is trash talk, do it all you want but delving in deeper than the confines of boxing and using a person's disease against him is kinda dumb. sure you can do it, but does that make it right? you should know the answer to that.
I'm not saying it right to make fun of a man's illness, specially a serious one for that matter, but if Roach is going to dish it out with the best of them he better be able to take it as well. Honestly, I do think Roach has the skin of a rhino and the general public is more outraged and offended then he is.
trash talk is a welcome sight in boxing but the act was so low, i cant think how people justify that ****.
Trash talk isnt regulated..Go hard or go home..Tell me this do you feel sorry for roach when you see him. I gurantee he wouldnt want you feeling sorry for him. I dont hate the dude but when you talk crap sooner or later someones gonna eith say something or bust you. I think he got lucky. What im saying is if you just train and keep yourself away from situations where you open your mouth you will be ok. Let the fighter hype the fight..Actions are always louder than words...Silent but deadly..you get what im saying.
His disability if off the menu. WAY off the menu.
Just like Margo's brother is off the menu.
Maybe im just cold hearted..If they came back and said something about his brother i would just grab my pop corn and watch. This fight has gotten to the level of no limits with that little show they did. I think its just gonna make for a great fight. But then again I dont have a brother or parkinsons so i really wouldnt understand. I view this as entertainment and trash talking because any edge is a good edge. They're not playing checkers here they are literally putting their lives on the line.