Antonio Margarito - In Which Fights Did He Attempt To Use Loaded Gloves?

U could tell he was using something against Williams. It could certainly be perceived that way imo. And, as a result, Williams might be one of the few boxers in history to defeat an opponent who was wearing loaded gloves!

Outside of the Mosley fight, everything else in the past is based on conjectures or assumptions. No matter how Cotto's face looked like as if he got hit with a cement block, there was no proof. So everything else before Mosley is up to any assumptions. You can claim 1 fight, or 10 fights before Mosley because it can be assumed. It doesnt mean if you have something in your gloves you can KO your opponent from the onset. Look at Cotto, assuming the gloves were loaded, Cotto lasted until the 11th. Again, we can argue this for all its worth, but is Margacheato worth the argument? NO. Freddie Roach says he can tell which fights Margarito cheated in after repeatedly watching his last 8 fights in preparation for Pacquiao's bout. Sure, it remains speculative, but it's a subject which should be explored. It is worth the argument imo. Margarito's return to the ring after being caught cheating sets a monumentally bad precedent for boxing as a sport. Load your gloves, give yourself a massive advantage in the ring and put someone's life in real jeopardy, the worst you can expect is around a year suspension. After that you get propelled into one of the biggest paydays of your career... Not the best deterrent IMO, Margarito should have been banned for life and jailed.

Only the Mosley fight, don't have any proof that he attempted to use them in other fights, not going to pretend like I know either. We can only speculate but I would think he did so in all fights after the Williams defeat. He had a motive after that. Suspected? So maybe he didn't have him and that is why it took him 11 rounds right? Again lets say your theory is true and it was after the P-Will fight it took longer to KO Cintron with loaded then it did without it. But, then if you look closely since 1999 he has KO'd everybody at WW except for Clottey, P-Will, and Perez. But, in a 10 year span only 3 fighters went the distance. So it also looks like that you want to throw in maybe he used it back then. Well damn, you telling me for 10 years he got away with it all this time? He tricked every single trainer even great ones like Emanuel Steward(Cintron 2nd fight trainer) Are you telling me that Steward, who has been in the game for a long time, can't tell the difference between legal and illegal wraps. That nobody in the World besides Naz Richardson can tell the difference? He could trick every single commission and I am talking about top commissions like Nevada and New Jersey not crappy commissions like Cali or TX state commission. For 10 years? How believable is that? Outside of the Mosley fight, everything else in the past is based on conjectures or assumptions. No matter how Cotto's face looked like as if he got hit with a cement block, there was no proof. So everything else before Mosley is up to any assumptions. You can claim 1 fight, or 10 fights before Mosley because it can be assumed. It doesnt mean if you have something in your gloves you can KO your opponent from the onset. Look at Cotto, assuming the gloves were loaded, Cotto lasted until the 11th. Again, we can argue this for all its worth, but is Margacheato worth the argument? NO.

Only the Mosley fight, don't have any proof that he attempted to use them in other fights, not going to pretend like I know either.

Joshua Clottey who prior to Cotto knocking him down had never been down in his career Actually, in the first round of the Clottey-Corrales Showtime broadcast, Steve Albert mentioned that Clottey had been down once in his pro career, in his pro debut.

Yes sir. Leaving in the morning to get there and hang out with friends and all. I'll be jumping up and down cheering for Margarito. :) hit me up on PM if you want to meet up for a brew or seven

I don't know why people think it is so unlikely that maybe, just maybe the Mosley fight was the first time. Granted it doesn't give them a pass. And, I understand the suspicion now with Marg. But, I still haven't heard anything legit from anybody that he probably used it before. it's the anger of the moment I get it it's also the disbelief that a slow plodding thudding guy like Margarito could destroy fighters in the manner at which he does, especially Cotto who is beloved by a lot of his countrymen. I get it but I can debate it back at them I mean when you think about it he beat Clottey worse than Cotto did. he beat on Pwill worse than anyone with the exception of Martinez and at welter really the only fighter not to let Tony beat on him was Shane. everyone else, yes even Santos, got beat up by Tony at some point

us Mexicans think alike I like debating this piece because I do have facts on my side that show a precedent that Tony had the same power he has always had Right, I bet... I just want something concrete that he used it in other fights. Because, from everything I gathered I could see why the Shane fight would be the first time. However, I must admit that I don't know. But, I do lean towards the first time being with Shane. However, when I ask why cuz he lost, or cuz look at Cotto face, or cuz look at the red stain on the wraps. Yet Ortiz and Corrales have pics with that red stain on the exact spot.

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both Jesse James Leija and Emmanuel Steward should be fired for not doing their job I don't know why people think it is so unlikely that maybe, just maybe the Mosley fight was the first time. Granted it doesn't give them a pass. And, I understand the suspicion now with Marg. But, I still haven't heard anything legit from anybody that he probably used it before.

Hey mi Mexican carnal, you stole my argument... I feel like deleting it now :nonono: us Mexicans think alike I like debating this piece because I do have facts on my side that show a precedent that Tony had the same power he has always had

both Jesse James Leija and Emmanuel Steward should be fired for not doing their job

you do realize Margarito has KO'd every welterweight since 98 with the exception of Danny Perez who has never been stopped and is now campaigning as a middleweight Joshua Clottey who prior to Cotto knocking him down had never been down in his career Paul Williams who prior to Martinez and at middleweight had never been hurt or dropped by anyone so in theory couldn't we point to those areas too? and if we base it on performances his first fight after PWill was Golden Johnson who he KO'd in one well he did that to Shotgun Gomez as well PRIOR to PWill he also fought one fighter before and after PWill in Cintron and had KO's in both so how can anyone pinpoint where they think he did based on the FACTS out there is beyond me Hey mi Mexican carnal, you stole my argument... I feel like deleting it now :nonono:

1 round difference (5 rounds 1st fight, 6 rounds 2nd fight), unless he loaded up also on the 1st fight? It took him 11 rounds to beat Cotto to a bloody pulp with suspected loaded gloves. Suspected? So maybe he didn't have him and that is why it took him 11 rounds right? Again lets say your theory is true and it was after the P-Will fight it took longer to KO Cintron with loaded then it did without it. But, then if you look closely since 1999 he has KO'd everybody at WW except for Clottey, P-Will, and Perez. But, in a 10 year span only 3 fighters went the distance. So it also looks like that you want to throw in maybe he used it back then. Well damn, you telling me for 10 years he got away with it all this time? He tricked every single trainer even great ones like Emanuel Steward(Cintron 2nd fight trainer) Are you telling me that Steward, who has been in the game for a long time, can't tell the difference between legal and illegal wraps. That nobody in the World besides Naz Richardson can tell the difference? He could trick every single commission and I am talking about top commissions like Nevada and New Jersey not crappy commissions like Cali or TX state commission. For 10 years? How believable is that?

Most probably after the Williams loss. If he had used plaster with the williams fight, the fight wouldnt have went the distance. The williams loss may have triggered him to load up, considering he was the slight favorite going into that fight and lost. you do realize Margarito has KO'd every welterweight since 98 with the exception of Danny Perez who has never been stopped and is now campaigning as a middleweight Joshua Clottey who prior to Cotto knocking him down had never been down in his career Paul Williams who prior to Martinez and at middleweight had never been hurt or dropped by anyone so in theory couldn't we point to those areas too? and if we base it on performances his first fight after PWill was Golden Johnson who he KO'd in one well he did that to Shotgun Gomez as well PRIOR to PWill he also fought one fighter before and after PWill in Cintron and had KO's in both so how can anyone pinpoint where they think he did based on the FACTS out there is beyond me

So it took him longer to KO cintron with plaster than it did without plaster? :thinking: 1 round difference (5 rounds 1st fight, 6 rounds 2nd fight), unless he loaded up also on the 1st fight? It took him 11 rounds to beat Cotto to a bloody pulp with suspected loaded gloves.

We can only speculate but I would think he did so in all fights after the Williams defeat. He had a motive after that. Most probably after the Williams loss. If he had used plaster with the williams fight, the fight wouldnt have went the distance. The williams loss may have triggered him to load up, considering he was the slight favorite going into that fight and lost. So it took him longer to KO cintron with plaster than it did without plaster? :thinking:

Most probably after the Williams loss. If he had used plaster with the williams fight, the fight wouldnt have went the distance. The williams loss may have triggered him to load up, considering he was the slight favorite going into that fight and lost.

He used them in. Cintron 1,2 ....cotto.....possibly against sergio martinez as well He usually used them against big punchers hence cintron ,cotto Actually margarito is feather fisted he slaps on his punches a lot his whole resume is in question :haha: What a moron... LOL @ at nobody refuting Stone post. Besides ModernTalking weak attempt. But, to be fair that mofo doesn't really watch boxing. So he doesn't know what he is talking about. Bunch of damn Cotto fans still haven't gotten over that ass whoopin I see :nonono:

honestly he's never looked like that hard of a puncher and he's always looked kind of slow and like he throws punches similar to guys who have 50+ lbs on him yet he hurt people anyway the wraps thing was more of an "ohhhh, I see" moment for me than a matter of being shocked however I don't think it would have really mattered. He was caught cheating in a way that has caused permanent career-ending injury to previous boxers and he's back a year or two later fighting the biggest name in the world for tens of millions and nobody seems to care. I doubt it would be different if he had loaded his gloves since day 1. Interesting perspective.