I rescored the fight giving any questionable rounds to Judah. this is the result:
Round 1- Judah 10-9
Round 2- Matthyse 19-19
Round 3- Matthyse 29-28 (Judah didn't land a single blow this round)
Round 4-Judah (scored it even) 38-38
Round 5-Judah 47-48
Round 6-Matthysse 57-57
Round 7-Matthysse 67-66
Round 8-Judah 76-76
Round9-Mathysse 86-85
Round 10-Mathysse 1kd for Mat. 96-93
Round 11-Matthysse 106-102
Round 12- Matthyse 116-111
Note: Combubox was wrong, the punches it said Judah landed were not evenremotely landed, while Matthyse was VERY effective to the body.
Round 2 was NOT clearly a Zab round. Even Lederman who gave Judah a lot of gift rounds gave it to Lucas....Mathysse's body shots were much more effective than pretty much the only punch Judah landed, the left uppercut.
if youre so good at scoring boxing fights why are you a ****in plumber? :Flush:
1 - Zab
2 - even
3 - Zab (Zab landed one of his best punches in the fight, counter left uppercut. Clear Zab round)
4 - Zab (not much to choose from. Matthysse attacked body but hit mostly arms. Zab landed some pawing jabs)
5 - Matthysse (landed punches on each other cancelled out. Matthysse more active)
6 - Matthysse (Matthysse landed the only clean power shot of round)
7 - even
8 - Zab (Zab lands clean on Matthysse a few times in this round)
9 - Matthysse (Matthysse turns up the heat, Zab does nothing much)
10 - Matthyse (10-8)
11 - Matthysse (Matthysse swarms Zab)
12 - Matthysse
116-113 Matthysse, and that's with two even rounds. Let's assume those even rounds go to Zab, then it's still 114-113 Matthysse.
off topic, but WTF was up with Matthysse's stomach? Dude had indentations on his stomach in the shape of a smile, right above his belt line, sh1t was crazy. Anybody see it? Never seen that before.
and LOL @ Lampley and Roy jones proclaiming this to be an "excellent fight"
Round 2 was NOT clearly a Zab round. Even Lederman who gave Judah a lot of gift rounds gave it to Lucas....Mathysse's body shots were much more effective than pretty much the only punch Judah landed, the left uppercut.
I rescored the fight giving any questionable rounds to Judah. this is the result:
Round 1- Judah 10-9
Round 2- Matthyse 19-19
Round 3- Matthyse 29-28 (Judah didn't land a single blow this round)
Round 4-Judah (scored it even) 38-38
Round 5-Judah 47-48
Round 6-Matthysse 57-57
Round 7-Matthysse 67-66
Round 8-Judah 76-76
Round9-Mathysse 86-85
Round 10-Mathysse 1kd for Mat. 96-93
Round 11-Matthysse 106-102
Round 12- Matthyse 116-111
Note: Combubox was wrong, the punches it said Judah landed were not evenremotely landed, while Matthyse was VERY effective to the body.
1 - Zab
2 - even
3 - Zab (Zab landed one of his best punches in the fight, counter left uppercut. Clear Zab round)
4 - Zab (not much to choose from. Matthysse attacked body but hit mostly arms. Zab landed some pawing jabs)
5 - Matthysse (landed punches on each other cancelled out. Matthysse more active)
6 - Matthysse (Matthysse landed the only clean power shot of round)
7 - even
8 - Zab (Zab lands clean on Matthysse a few times in this round)
9 - Matthysse (Matthysse turns up the heat, Zab does nothing much)
10 - Matthyse (10-8)
11 - Matthysse (Matthysse swarms Zab)
12 - Matthysse
116-113 Matthysse, and that's with two even rounds. Let's assume those even rounds go to Zab, then it's still 114-113 Matthysse.
off topic, but WTF was up with Matthysse's stomach? Dude had indentations on his stomach in the shape of a smile, right above his belt line, sh1t was crazy. Anybody see it? Never seen that before.
and LOL @ Lampley and Roy jones proclaiming this to be an "excellent fight"
Team Judah was trying to revamp Judah and try something different. From what I got to hear, the corner did not do a great job telling Judah what to do and Judah did a poor execution of whatever game plan they had because it just didn't work!
It appeared that they (Judah) were looking to counter Lucas all night but Lucas fought differently than what Judah's team expected. Once Lucas came in for the "real" attack, Judah crumbled. Judah was so out of it last night and I don't mean just the last part of the fight where it was obvious that he was just hanging in. Judah's offense was non-existent.
As for his opponent Lucas, he probably must be hitting himself on the head for waiting so long to get into this fight offensively. He knew that he was fighting in unfriendly territory so he knew that to pull a win, it would have to be obvious. The knock down was obvious so he got the 2 points and made it closer. The last 1/4 of the fight was obvious .... but the rest of the fight was close. So the judges gave most of those close rounds to Judah.
It was a close fight that could have gone either way. Neither fighter wanted this fight until the last few rounds. At that point, one guy wanted it, the other was just trying to survive.
Lucas didn't wait too long!! He was RIPPING them shots to the body from the beginning. REWATCH THE FIGHT.
Zab Judah paws with his jab, it has 0 effectiveness, it's worse than Shane Mosley's jab.
If you scored Round 4 even (10-10), shouldn't it say:
Round 4-Even, Matthysse ahead 39-38
?
And that in turn would make your final score 117-111 for Matthysse.
amirite?
I meant that I REALLY though it was an even round, lol....I gave it to Judah though cause I felt bad.
If you scored Round 4 even (10-10), shouldn't it say:
Round 4-Even, Matthysse ahead 39-38
?
And that in turn would make your final score 117-111 for Matthysse.
amirite?
lol, your correct
Team Judah was trying to revamp Judah and try something different. From what I got to hear, the corner did not do a great job telling Judah what to do and Judah did a poor execution of whatever game plan they had because it just didn't work!
It appeared that they (Judah) were looking to counter Lucas all night but Lucas fought differently than what Judah's team expected. Once Lucas came in for the "real" attack, Judah crumbled. Judah was so out of it last night and I don't mean just the last part of the fight where it was obvious that he was just hanging in. Judah's offense was non-existent.
As for his opponent Lucas, he probably must be hitting himself on the head for waiting so long to get into this fight offensively. He knew that he was fighting in unfriendly territory so he knew that to pull a win, it would have to be obvious. The knock down was obvious so he got the 2 points and made it closer. The last 1/4 of the fight was obvious .... but the rest of the fight was close. So the judges gave most of those close rounds to Judah.
It was a close fight that could have gone either way. Neither fighter wanted this fight until the last few rounds. At that point, one guy wanted it, the other was just trying to survive.
I rescored the fight giving any questionable rounds to Judah. this is the result:
Round 1- Judah 10-9
Round 2- Matthyse 19-19
Round 3- Matthyse 29-28 (Judah didn't land a single blow this round)
Round 4-Judah (scored it even) 38-38
Round 5-Judah 47-48
Round 6-Matthysse 57-57
Round 7-Matthysse 67-66
Round 8-Judah 76-76
Round9-Mathysse 86-85
Round 10-Mathysse 1kd for Mat. 96-93
Round 11-Matthysse 106-102
Round 12- Matthyse 116-111
Note: Combubox was wrong, the punches it said Judah landed were not evenremotely landed, while Matthyse was VERY effective to the body.
If you scored Round 4 even (10-10), shouldn't it say:
Round 4-Even, Matthysse ahead 39-38
?
And that in turn would make your final score 117-111 for Matthysse.
amirite?
It was a close fight. But i think Judah got the nod based on his reputation. I think when fights are close like that, 90% of the time the more popular fighter will get the nod.
I thought Matthyesse won, but he should have KO'd Judah. Or at least dropped him again. He started slow and was fighting in New Jersey, so he needed to step on the gas more.
Agree.. judah got very lucky with the decision imo, gurantee there will be no rematch lol.
I thought Matthyesse won, but he should have KO'd Judah. Or at least dropped him again. He started slow and was fighting in New Jersey, so he needed to step on the gas more.
i was at the fight and felt lucas won. i just re watched it online, and still feel lucas won 114-113.... after the fight when lucas walked out, i told him he def won that fight, the man speaks no english, but knew what i meant and shook my hand.... cant wait to see him in the ring again as now he has even more to prove.
Note: I only gave 2 rounds to Judah upon live viewing. This isn't even my real scorecard upon second viewing, I'd have it wider for Matthysse. You couldn't even make a case for the judges being influenced by the crowd, as they were booing Judah.