Something people are forgetting

dude... i honestly think pacuqiao is gonna put in work with his punch rate....lets see how well margo takes them! its only so much he will b able to take....and his SPEED omg...its on some other sht! if margo gets frustrated its over... I have my money on Pac for sure. I get more and more concerned as Manny's fights approach, then he dominates. I just don't really believe in absolutes.

Morales was also a lightweight at the time. Pacquiao had no problems making Morales move back down in weight. He could have got Raheem to do the same. The fight with Raheem was the first time Morales had ever fought at 135 so he was not established at LW.

I don't think that Shane ruined Marg's chin if that's what you're asking. I just think that it depends on how well Marg can take Manny's punches. If he takes them well then he may be able to walk Manny down. I do expect Marg to take alot of shots though. dude... i honestly think pacuqiao is gonna put in work with his punch rate....lets see how well margo takes them! its only so much he will b able to take....and his SPEED omg...its on some other sht! if margo gets frustrated its over...

Raheem was also a Lightweight and Manny didn't move up until years later. Morales was also a lightweight at the time. Pacquiao had no problems making Morales move back down in weight. He could have got Raheem to do the same.

Freddie Roach protected Pacquiao from the following fighters: Joan Guzman Zahir Raheem Nate Campbell Shane Mosley But anyways, my point to you is that Margarito may not actually be an elite fighter. Watch his fight against Shane Mosley to see what I mean. When watching that fight, keep in mind that Margarito did not have his cheating advantage with him. That list is nothing compared to who he has fought.

I agree with you that Pac was protected from Shane but the others? Oscar wanted Pac to fight him when Pac just started at 135. No one in their right mind would say no to a multi-million dollar payday. This is why he never fought Guzman and Campbell. After the Oscar fight, the fans wanted Pac and Hatton to get it on and they did. If he was already comfortable at 140, why would he go back down to 135? He didn't fight Raheem because he was already signed to fight Morales the second time before Morales fought Raheem. Raheem was also a Lightweight and Manny didn't move up until years later.

I agree with you that Pac was protected from Shane but the others? Oscar wanted Pac to fight him when Pac just started at 135. No one in their right mind would say no to a multi-million dollar payday. This is why he never fought Guzman and Campbell. After the Oscar fight, the fans wanted Pac and Hatton to get it on and they did. If he was already comfortable at 140, why would he go back down to 135? He didn't fight Raheem because he was already signed to fight Morales the second time before Morales fought Raheem. The Oscar De La Hoya victory has nothing with Pacquiao not fighting Guzman. I am talking about the time when Guzman and Pacquiao were the top fighters at 130. Freddie Roach said he did not want Pacquiao to fight Guzman. Morales was going to fight Pacquiao if he had won the fight against Raheem. Morales did not and Pacquiao still fought Morales. That is because Raheem has a style that Freddie Roach does not want Pacquiao to go up against.

Freddie Roach protected Pacquiao from the following fighters: Joan Guzman Zahir Raheem Nate Campbell Shane MosleyI agree with you that Pac was protected from Shane but the others? Oscar wanted Pac to fight him when Pac just started at 135. No one in their right mind would say no to a multi-million dollar payday. This is why he never fought Guzman and Campbell. After the Oscar fight, the fans wanted Pac and Hatton to get it on and they did. If he was already comfortable at 140, why would he go back down to 135? He didn't fight Raheem because he was already signed to fight Morales the second time before Morales fought Raheem.

Yeah because Pacquiao is known for being a protected fighter. :tool: Cotto fight was probably the most dangerous fight he could have taken, not even mentioning De La Hoya and fights back in the featherweight days. Freddie Roach protected Pacquiao from the following fighters: Joan Guzman Zahir Raheem Nate Campbell Shane Mosley But anyways, my point to you is that Margarito may not actually be an elite fighter. Watch his fight against Shane Mosley to see what I mean. When watching that fight, keep in mind that Margarito did not have his cheating advantage with him.

Well, the thing that you are forgetting is that Margarito was caught loading up his gloves with rocks before the fight against Mosley. Without those rocks, Margarito looked less than average. It is possible that Margarito never was an elite, world class, boxer. Chances are that if Margarito were a legitimate threat to Pacquiao, Freddie Roach would be protecting Pacquiao form Margarito. Yeah because Pacquiao is known for being a protected fighter. :tool: Cotto fight was probably the most dangerous fight he could have taken, not even mentioning De La Hoya and fights back in the featherweight days.

Shane Mosley had the perfect style for Margarito, hits hard enough to crack that chin, was faster, strong enough to wrestle on inside and rough enough inside to hold Margarito. Manny in comparison is faster than Mosley, doesn't hit as hard, isn't as strong and doesn't hold. I also think Margarito would give Mayweather a tougher fight than Mosley did, Mayweather hasn't got the power to hurt Margarito and his stamina will keep Floyd busy all 12, unlike old Shane who gassed early. STYLES MAKE FIGHTS, Pacquiao vs Margarito will be a great fight and should Pacquiao win he deserves full credit. Well, the thing that you are forgetting is that Margarito was caught loading up his gloves with rocks before the fight against Mosley. Without those rocks, Margarito looked less than average. It is possible that Margarito never was an elite, world class, boxer. Chances are that if Margarito were a legitimate threat to Pacquiao, Freddie Roach would be protecting Pacquiao form Margarito.

I agree up to a point too. Which is why I bet a small amount at +425 on Margarito for value. But I also bet like +250 or something if I remember right on Cotto against Pac and that ended up being not even close to a 250. Maybe Pac will just wipe out Margarito too

i dunno man...it all depends of margo..... u guys think mosley cracked margos chin? I don't think that Shane ruined Marg's chin if that's what you're asking. I just think that it depends on how well Marg can take Manny's punches. If he takes them well then he may be able to walk Manny down. I do expect Marg to take alot of shots though.

i dunno man...it all depends of margo..... u guys think mosley cracked margos chin?

Shane Mosley had the perfect style for Margarito, hits hard enough to crack that chin, was faster, strong enough to wrestle on inside and rough enough inside to hold Margarito. Manny in comparison is faster than Mosley, doesn't hit as hard, isn't as strong and doesn't hold. I also think Margarito would give Mayweather a tougher fight than Mosley did, Mayweather hasn't got the power to hurt Margarito and his stamina will keep Floyd busy all 12, unlike old Shane who gassed early. STYLES MAKE FIGHTS, Pacquiao vs Margarito will be a great fight and should Pacquiao win he deserves full credit. I agree. This is far from a gimme fight in my opinion. Anything done in this fight will be earned. It will come down to Marg's chin and how he deals with Manny's movement.