Because it means when they go back to the table to make this fight Team Pac MUST agree to " full testing with no cut off date " because that is what they are preaching out there today to the public , only a fool would think they agreed fully back when signing Margo , but the good thing now , I think , is it means that they will now accept it .
But the money will be an issue , Floyd will want more no doubt about it , after Mosley done nearly twice what Clottey did and May JMM blew away Pac JMM , Floyd will ask for more money in the next round , which going by the numbers he does deserve more , how much will depend on the PPV numbers of Pac Margo .
To make this fight a reality they need full testing no cut off , and realistly say the money be around 52-48 Floyds way , I actually hope Pac Marg does really good numbers otherwise Floyd is going to push hard real hard on the money , but I personally think Pac Margo is going to bomb ,hope on wrong on that .
So you lot think all the Team Pac story changing ultimately is a good thing or bad ?
Arum and Roach said he was scared of needles.
Manny didn't refute their statements....
WHY???
USADA stopped the test at 18 days
Floyd didn't react to that
WHY???
Have you seen the video of Mannys advisor saying "We will not go beyond 7 days"? I'm looking for it now, but it's out there dude. They are basically lying when they say he's agreed to ALL demands.. No hating, just facts
According to the BoxingScene article released today, (Nov.2) titled HBO President unsure why Mayweather turned Pacquiao down, " Mayweather turned the fight down WITHOUT REASON". It's not the 21, 14 or 7 days cut-off that Koncs mentioned. Mayweather fans are clinging to the words of Koncs because they are running out of ammo. Koncs was not on the negotiating table. Ross Greenburg was. Greenburg was the middleman between the two parties. He knows whats in the contract.
Ohh I really am :lol1:. I can't believe after all this **** that has gone on with Floyd... you still a sucker believing this bull****.
Reasons for no fight:
From bulletproof A-side meth to
PEDs to
Purse split to
Vacation time with family :lol1: to
Uncle Roger might do a bid
seriously..?
I can't believe that after all these excuses and lies from Manny and his camp you still believe that he didn't chance his stance. Give me a break!
I like how you leave out Manny's excuses and lies. I could bump them all, but I don't want this account to get banned like the other did because I kept bringing up his excuses. And, you talking about me still on this subject, yet YOU are still on this subject. Find a mirror, homes.
He did.. Manny's initial offer was 30. Do you know what's half of 30 (between 0-30)?
Half of 30, is 15. Floyd offered Manny 14, then Manny laughed at it and had the Clottey fight signed a day later. After Manny did as such, ALOT OF THE MANNY FANS applauded him for "not bowing down to Fraud". LOL @ THAT "compromise"
My point is you're full of sh*t, as usual. Arum and Roach from the beginning said no catchweight, Manny is comfortable at welter, Clottey fight will be at 147 limit. Koncz came out of left field when he was in no way involved in negotiations (as usual) and offered his 2 cents, but was shut down.
No one in Pac's camp has the slightest clue what he does. Arum and his lawyer/advisor Franklin Gacal handle ALL of Pacquiao's negotiations and boxing business. Koncz is more like an Ellerbe, he's called an advisor but in reality he's just a towel boy and go'fer. He's proven many times he has no clue what happens at the negotiation table, this is just another instance.
Arum and Roach did not say no catchweight from the beginning, actually. I'm sorry, those are just facts. In fact, they did not clarify until days after Koncz spoke. And that was because Clottey could not do it.
They had every intention of implementing a catchweight - Clottey just couldn't do it. That's why it was changed. So your point again?
My point is you're full of sh*t, as usual. Arum and Roach from the beginning said no catchweight, Manny is comfortable at welter, Clottey fight will be at 147 limit. Koncz came out of left field when he was in no way involved in negotiations (as usual) and offered his 2 cents, but was shut down.
No one in Pac's camp has the slightest clue what he does. Arum and his lawyer/advisor Franklin Gacal handle ALL of Pacquiao's negotiations and boxing business. Koncz is more like an Ellerbe, he's called an advisor but in reality he's just a towel boy and go'fer. He's proven many times he has no clue what happens at the negotiation table, this is just another instance.
I'm out.. ya'll have a good one.. keep fighting that fight. :lol1:
We will. I don't like it when Floyd BS's and I don't like it when Manny bullsh*ts about tests either.
Where was Manny's compromising spirit when he was offered the 14 days during the mediation?
He did.. Manny's initial offer was 30. Do you know what's half of 30 (between 0-30)?
You aren't really lol-ing, dude.
Anyways, lets not act like Manny was all who-rah for this drug testing deal and SO BIG ON COMPROMISE. Because, had he been trying SO HARD to COMPROMISE, he would have accepted the ORIGINAL 14 day offer during the mediation. Let's be completely real here.
And, as I said, he DID change his stance. More than once.
Heck, when he was on Jimmy Kimmel he said that he didn't want to test because Floyd was bigger than him and he (Manny) would be at a disadvantage.
:lol1:, no one (besides you know who) is buying that nonsense from Manny.
Ohh I really am :lol1:. I can't believe after all this **** that has gone on with Floyd... you still a sucker believing this bull****.
Reasons for no fight:
From bulletproof A-side meth to
PEDs to
Purse split to
Vacation time with family :lol1: to
Uncle Roger might do a bid
seriously..?
Apparently, you can't comprehend something as simple as a compromise..
Where was Manny's compromising spirit when he was offered the 14 days during the mediation?
King, that's false. And also a little backward. You really can't compromise this. Let me explain on two fronts. One, a compromise would be: you agree to my requests, I agree to yours. No? So then Floyd did compromise. Second, compromising days compromises the tests, which is why I never supported Mayweather's 14 day cutoff. It was stupid. And even then...it was still a compromise. Note that both of those compromises were turned down. So I guess you're right about only one side trying.
Apparently, you can't comprehend something as simple as a compromise..
Exactly.. it wasn't manny. He didn't keep changing his stances, he tried to compromise and get the fight to happen. The reasons were put out there on video since after the pac/morales 1 fight happened. It's all documented.
One wanted the fight, and tried to compromise to get the fight to happen (called Floyds bluff)... while the other went on a vacation (family time) and got caught up with a case and might do a bid. After all that has transpired, you still on this? :lol1:
You aren't really lol-ing, dude.
Anyways, lets not act like Manny was all who-rah for this drug testing deal and SO BIG ON COMPROMISE. Because, had he been trying SO HARD to COMPROMISE, he would have accepted the ORIGINAL 14 day offer during the mediation. Let's be completely real here.
And, as I said, he DID change his stance. More than once.
Heck, when he was on Jimmy Kimmel he said that he didn't want to test because Floyd was bigger than him and he (Manny) would be at a disadvantage.
:lol1:, no one (besides you know who) is buying that nonsense from Manny.
Exactly.. it wasn't manny. He didn't keep changing his stances, he tried to compromise and get the fight to happen. The reasons were put out there on video since after the pac/morales 1 fight happened. It's all documented.
One wanted the fight, and tried to compromise to get the fight to happen (called Floyds bluff)... while the other went on a vacation (family time) and got caught up with a case and might do a bid. After all that has transpired, you still on this? :lol1:
King, that's false. And also a little backward. You really can't compromise this. Let me explain on two fronts. One, a compromise would be: you agree to my requests, I agree to yours. No? So then Floyd did compromise. Second, compromising days compromises the tests, which is why I never supported Mayweather's 14 day cutoff. It was stupid. And even then...it was still a compromise. Note that both of those compromises were turned down. So I guess you're right about only one side trying.
Superstition, of course. That's a catholic belief, BTW.
Some Catholics believe in superstitions.. But it is not a catholic belief.. other beliefs/atheists are superstitious as well..
I believe it was his dad, Arum that said something about him being scared of needles. But, whatever. He kept changing his stances on the days. And the reasons why he didn't want to be tested.
I'm still trying figure out what would make him anything less than 100 percent on fight night?
Exactly.. it wasn't manny. He didn't keep changing his stances, he tried to compromise and get the fight to happen. The reasons were put out there on video since after the pac/morales 1 fight happened. It's all documented.
One wanted the fight, and tried to compromise to get the fight to happen (called Floyds bluff)... while the other went on a vacation (family time) and got caught up with a case and might do a bid. After all that has transpired, you still on this? :lol1:
He kept changing his stances on the days. And the reasons why he didn't want to be tested.
I'm still trying figure out what would make him anything less than 100 percent on fight night?
Superstition, of course. That's a catholic belief, BTW.
I don't remember him saying anything about being scared of needles.. if you can find anything about him saying that, by all means put it out there. He stayed consistent in that he didn't want to be anything less than 100% on fight night.
I believe it was his dad, Arum that said something about him being scared of needles. But, whatever. He kept changing his stances on the days. And the reasons why he didn't want to be tested.
I'm still trying figure out what would make him anything less than 100 percent on fight night?
So he has never been scared to give blood?
That was hilarious man! I really couldn't believe that....well..yes I could.
I don't remember him saying anything about being scared of needles.. if you can find anything about him saying that, by all means put it out there. He stayed consistent in that he didn't want to be anything less than 100% on fight night.
If we put up the lies/outlandish statements coming from mays camp.. it would be :lol1:
Sure would. No question that they are outlandish and lie. But when it comes drug testing, Manny's lies are wonderful.
I know...no one wants to admit he just keeps making up lies about drug testing. Well, none of his ballriders anyway.
If we put up the lies/outlandish statements coming from mays camp.. it would be :lol1: