Roach: "Tony EXPERIMENTED with plaster wraps in sparring. Therefore, he KNEW."

rolled up gauze to protect the fighters knuckles isn't plaster. Roach is a retard. Everyone uses gauze to protect knuckles. but they dont use plaster mixed with sulfur

WOWZERS this guy just invented a new theory.Link or its Bllshyt.Well see if Margs punches like a girl .All my points up who ever wants em i got Margs. At this time, I don't have time to search links for you. SSM abused Marg like a rag doll in the ring and the reason why was b/c Marg did not have his magic wraps to hurt SSM, and we all saw SSM against Floyd. So stop your crying and wipe your tears so that you can see that Marg does punch like a girl without his magical wraps.

If i remember correctly the "Como es la pegada?" question comes from the cutman it means "How's the punch?" tony says "No se" and looks a little taken back it's in the cotto fight somewhere in the middle of the fight again, this is all on memory that's a hard fight for me to watch and i havn't been through it as much as some of the others my questions about the Roach comments: were these guys of the same size? one guy who says "Tony is the hardest puncher i've ever been in there with" could be a smaller guy and the guy who says he hits "Like a girl" could be huge for all we know that being said the comments made by freddie about the varying opinions of margs power from his sparring partners is quite suspicious. I'd like to see a blind study done experienced fighters should have their hands wrapped with a blindfold two groups : control groupd with normal wrappings and a group with loaded gloves and then they should hit the bags and the mitts and see if they can tell the difference i think we all know the answer but speculation isnt how you go about proving stuff

Not really, he knew he was busted either way. If he acted funny and created a scene and didn't want to co-operate with them that would be a sure nail in his coffin. By him saying sure go ahead and check them gave him a somewhat excuse as to i didn't know. You don't just wake up and load your gloves on 20 minutes before the fight for the first time in your career. This was thought out, planned and executed before the Shane fight. Good reply. Green K coming up.

So if some hater sparring partner says Pac hits like a girl, that means he uses plaster? If some sparring partner says pac hits like a girl, he becomes a hater?

Cotto got destroyed unfairly unless proven otherwise. We have evidence Tony cheated, where's the proof he did not cheat??? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Especially when margarita claims he couldn't feel anything. Which means he can't claim he didn't cheat against Cotto.

Cotto got destroyed fairly unless proven otherwise. Cotto got destroyed unfairly unless proven otherwise. We have evidence Tony cheated, where's the proof he did not cheat???

Freddie seems to have changed his opinion on the matter beacuse a while back when margarito was talking to roach about the possibility of him training him,Freddie said something about margarito explaning the whole story to him and how he was almost in tears and that he believed he was telling the truth.Anyone else remember that?

According to another story, Nazeem knew about the wraps b/c someone who knew, blew the whistle on team Marg and Nazeem was made aware of the situation. Nazeem went in Marg's dressing room and he knew what he was looking for. This was not the first time they cheated, they had practice with the wraps and Marg knew all along what was going on. Like Roach said, Marg punches like a girl and that showed in the SSM fight and the Garcia fight. WOWZERS this guy just invented a new theory.Link or its Bllshyt.Well see if Margs punches like a girl .All my points up who ever wants em i got Margs.

According to another story, Nazeem knew about the wraps b/c someone who knew, blew the whistle on team Marg and Nazeem was made aware of the situation. Nazeem went in Marg's dressing room and he knew what he was looking for. This was not the first time they cheated, they had practice with the wraps and Marg knew all along what was going on. Like Roach said, Marg punches like a girl and that showed in the SSM fight and the Garcia fight.

he knew ---> he's a b1tch

Not really, he knew he was busted either way. If he acted funny and created a scene and didn't want to co-operate with them that would be a sure nail in his coffin. By him saying sure go ahead and check them gave him a somewhat excuse as to i didn't know. You don't just wake up and load your gloves on 20 minutes before the fight for the first time in your career. This was thought out, planned and executed before the Shane fight. I think it was a case of rolling the dice one too many times and crapping out when Brother Naazim sniffed out a smelly situation in those wraps. They may have loaded the pads for some fights and not for others just to be random until sh*t hit the fan real hard and splattered feces all over the place. Luckily for Margo, he got off easy. It could've been much worse.

His trainer did ask 'hows the punch' its on tape him asking that in the corner but he could have easily meant how is Cottos punch?, how powerful is it? is it effecting you? etc the fact is we don't know what he meant. Do i think Margarito probably used plaster in his other fights? Yes. Can i prove it? No. This discussion won't go any further than that, people may aswell leave it there.

I never said there was nothing in his gloves. The evidence is there and i don't deny that. My opinion is based off of what CSAC inspectors testified to at the hearings. They testified that Margarito only had the wraps on for a mere 5 minutes. They also testified to telling Margarito "Dont worry we know its not your fault" and they also testified that it was Margarito who insisted that his team cooperate with Nazim because he said "we have nothing to hide". Not exactly the normal behavior of man who knows his wraps are loaded. Not really, he knew he was busted either way. If he acted funny and created a scene and didn't want to co-operate with them that would be a sure nail in his coffin. By him saying sure go ahead and check them gave him a somewhat excuse as to i didn't know. You don't just wake up and load your gloves on 20 minutes before the fight for the first time in your career. This was thought out, planned and executed before the Shane fight.

But can you prove it? I absolutely can, exhibit A, Miguel Cotto.

You can't be suspended when you quit. Tito quit? Did I miss something?

How long was Trinidad suspended for?...I don't recall.. You can't be suspended when you quit.

I'm just saying, It seems like everything that comes from that camp you defend to the death (No matter how silly it is).... Brother Naz has no reason to lie, If it was nothing then why the suspention? I never said there was nothing in his gloves. The evidence is there and i don't deny that. My opinion is based off of what CSAC inspectors testified to at the hearings. They testified that Margarito only had the wraps on for a mere 5 minutes. They also testified to telling Margarito "Dont worry we know its not your fault" and they also testified that it was Margarito who insisted that his team cooperate with Nazim because he said "we have nothing to hide". Not exactly the normal behavior of man who knows his wraps are loaded.

What things from Team Pac? My opinion is based on testimony from the hearings with the CSAC. I'm just saying, It seems like everything that comes from that camp you defend to the death (No matter how silly it is).... Brother Naz has no reason to lie, If it was nothing then why the suspention?

I agree with the verbal whore Roach. Margo has been using these doctored wraps a while, the Shane fight certainly wasn't the first time. But can you prove it?