We know it's not going to be Pacquiao. Floyd wants him to do the tests up until the fight and Manny will never agree to that. He will agree to a cut-off point but Floyd is too smart to agree to that. After all, the whole point of the random testing is that you don't know when they will do the tests. A cut-off point means you will know when you will be tested. So it's useless.
I think Floyd's next fight will be sometime early next year.
Floyd will come back from vacation and fight the winner of Williams\Martinez upstaging Flop Stank Boxing once again and putting that painful farce of a match between Manny and Cheato as a long distant memory.
lol i couldnt see that happening. sry LMAO
Yeah I realized that I was falling into the Pacman trap of smoke & mirrors!!But on a different note,the Punisher had a bad night,what happened the second time around,yeah,that's what i though!!Floyd has never fought a fighter like the Punisher!!Too much size &pressure & stamina,feel free to tell me who Floyd beat to make such an assumption,I'll wait!!
That's not an excuse. Great fighters have bad nights and still win. As I have explained before, Mayweather has fought alot of taller and bigger opponents so the size thing means nothing. Genaro Hernandez was bigger than Floyd but he still got outboxed and beaten up. Other examples include Diego Corrales, Victoriano Sosa, Phillip Ndou, Carlos Baldomir, Oscar De La Hoya and Shane Mosley. Pressure and stamina are important but against a fighter like Floyd you have to be technical enough to do it.
The reason Jose Luis Castillo did well was because he was smart and skillfull enough to choose when and how to attack. He could also fight in different styles. Williams isnt like that, he will just go in there and attack. Even if he tried to do something differently it wouldnt work because Floyd is versatile enough to adapt and adjust.
Thats the bit that Im not sure about , is he really on something or not , I think the answer lay with does he take the test or not , I personally find it very hard to imagine him walking away if he is really clean , but if he is dirty I think he most definetly will not take it , theres my rock and a hard place I spoke off ,, after this fight its going to be real interesting how it pans out .
I really think he is, I have watched alot of videos about it. One which stood out compared how Pacquiao was performing before Alex Ariza came and how he performed after he came. And I don't buy the idea that Ariza is great at what he does because he was doing Diego Corrales cardio and training for the fight with Mayweather and Diego looked terrible.
Pacquiao struggled like mad in his fights with Juan Manuel Marquez and Erik Morales the first time. And now all of a sudden he is knocking around guys who are much bigger than him with ease, throwing 100 punches per round and not even breathing. That coupled with his behavior with regards to OSDT, I just find it incredibly hard to believe that it has been done naturally. I don't buy it.
I think that's why he is and will continue to refuse OSDT without a cutoff. He would either have to not take anything at all (which I feel would leave him with no chance) or try and get it in and out very quickly. And that would be very risky because if it didnt work, his career and legacy would be exposed as a fraud. I just don't see him putting himself in that position. Regardless of how much pressure people try and put on him.
Yeah I realized that I was falling into the Pacman trap of smoke & mirrors!!But on a different note,the Punisher had a bad night,what happened the second time around,yeah,that's what i though!!Floyd has never fought a fighter like the Punisher!!Too much size &pressure & stamina,feel free to tell me who Floyd beat to make such an assumption,I'll wait!!
Floyd is not a power fighter he is a ring general he turns a fighters strenghs against themselves like a rubber man , I like Williams and have nothing bad to say about him but I doubt very much he could handle Floyds precision , its another level .
You make a good point but I don't see it. Pacquiao has been talking about retirement and saying things like "If I don't fight Floyd then no problem". I really don't think he cares. He would like to fight Floyd but not without a cut-off point. I really believe that Pacquiao knows that without whatever he is taking he would have no chance. This is why he has said alot to try and annoy Floyd because he wants Floyd to say "Whatever, I'll fight you without the tests". But that's not going to happen because Floyd is too smart.
Going back to the point earlier most Pacquiao fans don't care about the drug testing situation. He's still seen as a national hero. I believe if he was caught then his legacy would be ruined forever but nobody can prove anything until he takes the tests. He can just say "I passed every test I took" and loads of people will still back him because there is no concrete proof. Even though his behavior is highly suspiscious.
Thats the bit that Im not sure about , is he really on something or not , I think the answer lay with does he take the test or not , I personally find it very hard to imagine him walking away if he is really clean , but if he is dirty I think he most definetly will not take it , theres my rock and a hard place I spoke off ,, after this fight its going to be real interesting how it pans out .
So I guess sarcasm is too complex for U huh??But on a serious note Floyd cannot beat the Punisher,ever!!QUOTE]
Judging from your previous posts and displays of affection for Pacquiao I thought you were serious. And if Carlos Quintana can defeat Paul Williams I have no doubt the greatest boxer of this era can do the same.
Yeah I realized that I was falling into the Pacman trap of smoke & mirrors!!But on a different note,the Punisher had a bad night,what happened the second time around,yeah,that's what i though!!Floyd has never fought a fighter like the Punisher!!Too much size &pressure & stamina,feel free to tell me who Floyd beat to make such an assumption,I'll wait!!
I think Manny is between a rock and a hard place and will agree to full no cut of testing , the public pressure will be too much and will not let up just get worse , his career if he decides to retire rather than take the test and fight Floyd will always be questioned about why walk away on the biggest fight in history because he dont want a test and is trying to water down the test thats designed to stop cheating , Mannys legacy will suffer a big hit with that hanging over it , it will be brought up forever .Floyd vs Manny will be next .
You make a good point but I don't see it. Pacquiao has been talking about retirement and saying things like "If I don't fight Floyd then no problem". I really don't think he cares. He would like to fight Floyd but not without a cut-off point. I really believe that Pacquiao knows that without whatever he is taking he would have no chance. This is why he has said alot to try and annoy Floyd because he wants Floyd to say "Whatever, I'll fight you without the tests". But that's not going to happen because Floyd is too smart.
Going back to the point earlier most Pacquiao fans don't care about the drug testing situation. He's still seen as a national hero. I believe if he was caught then his legacy would be ruined forever but nobody can prove anything until he takes the tests. He can just say "I passed every test I took" and loads of people will still back him because there is no concrete proof. Even though his behavior is highly suspiscious.
So I guess sarcasm is too complex for U huh??But on a serious note Floyd cannot beat the Punisher,ever!!QUOTE]
Judging from your previous posts and displays of affection for Pacquiao I thought you were serious. And if Carlos Quintana can defeat Paul Williams I have no doubt the greatest boxer of this era can do the same.
We know it's not going to be Pacquiao. Floyd wants him to do the tests up until the fight and Manny will never agree to that. He will agree to a cut-off point but Floyd is too smart to agree to that. After all, the whole point of the random testing is that you don't know when they will do the tests. A cut-off point means you will know when you will be tested. So it's useless.
I think Floyd's next fight will be sometime early next year.
I think Manny is between a rock and a hard place and will agree to full no cut of testing , the public pressure will be too much and will not let up just get worse , his career if he decides to retire rather than take the test and fight Floyd will always be questioned about why walk away on the biggest fight in history because he dont want a test and is trying to water down the test thats designed to stop cheating , Mannys legacy will suffer a big hit with that hanging over it , it will be brought up forever .
Floyd vs Manny will be next .
Wow. You actually think catchweight title fights are a good thing. I find that very bizzarre. Floyd has always fought champions at the official weight classes so I don't think he would demand a catchweight. I see Martinez winning and if he does that would be a great fight because of the size difference and Martinez is a slick fighter.
Williams I think would be a mismatch. Floyd would run him over. People say the height/reach might be effective but I disagree because a guy named Phillip Ndou who was something like 31-1 with 30 knockouts, had huge size advantages over Floyd and got completely wrecked. Williams doesnt have the technique or tactical intelligence to be competitive.
So I guess sarcasm is too complex for U huh??But on a serious note Floyd cannot beat the Punisher,ever!!
The Punisher after he beats Martinez of course!!It should be at a catchweight too,like at 155 so Floyd can try for a title at middleweight!!Pacman style!!Only difference is that he doesn't beat the Punisher,but ohh well!!!
Wow. You actually think catchweight title fights are a good thing? I find that very bizzarre. Floyd has always fought champions at the official weight classes so I don't think he would demand a catchweight. I see Martinez winning and if he does that would be a great fight because Martinez can control distance and has speed and power. It would be interesting to see how Mayweather would adapt to his style.
Williams I think would be a mismatch. Floyd would run him over. People say the height/reach might be effective but I disagree because a guy named Phillip Ndou who was something like 31-1 with 30 knockouts, had huge size advantages over Floyd and got completely wrecked. Williams doesnt have the technique or tactical intelligence to be competitive.
The Punisher after he beats Martinez of course!!It should be at a catchweight too,like at 155 so Floyd can try for a title at middleweight!!Pacman style!!Only difference is that he doesn't beat the Punisher,but ohh well!!!
Khan. For too long Floyd has avoided a fighter that is fast with the jab. The last time, and i guess only time he fought a jabber, was against a faded De La Hoya and even Floyd father thought he lost that fight.
Only an idiot would pick Khan over Floyd. Mayweather is in a different league. Also he clearly beat De La Hoya and Floyd Sr. didnt say that. And to suggest that he has only fought one guy with a jab is ridiculous. He's beaten 15 world champions and you don't become world champion without a jab. Clearly another Pactard with no knowledge of boxing whatsoever.
Another name that I forgot is Saul Alvarez. That could be an interesting fight. Not sure whether Canelo's people would want it to happen though. He's not ready, yet.
the winner of martinez-williams
if martinez wins this is probably going to be the best 24/7 ever
they should name that fight: pretty boy pound for pound
If it's not the Pac-Margarito winner, I'd hope for the Martinez-Williams winner or the Bradley-Alexander winner. Khan's not ready yet and Berto's not worthy of a shot.
Well im thinking Cotto couldnt hang with Floyd at this point so not him.
Mosley got a thourgh ass whoopin already. so not him
The winner of Williams vs Martinez works for me especially if its Williams.
Berto might give Pac trouble, but not Floyd. so not him
Khan has the style and tools to really challenge Floyd but i dont think he's ready so not him.
So Yeah hopefully Williams.
Mayweather should really have had a pop at Pavlik at Middle before he fought Martinez tho imo, another weight class against a high profile champ who was highly regarded YET highly beatable for a boxer like Floyd. Now tho even if Pavlik has lost alot of shine so the risk reward ratio aint there