I know I know, this thread is pactarded! But let's give it a shot. Weight would be unlimited as there is no possible catchweight that could make sense. Valuev is a special kind of fighter who while effective against fellow big men is rendered helpless against athletic elites. I wouldn't consider Pacquiao fighting any other high level heavies, but Valuev is so overwhelmingly big that it could work to his disadvantage.
If Manny didn't want to get hit, there's no way Valuev could hit him. It would be near impossible for Manny to hit Valuev in the head unless Valuev bent down, but Manny could theoretically reach/hop and land punches on his waistline. Nothing strong enough to hurt or force respect, but possibly enough to score. How does everyone see this fight playing out? Poll to follow!!
I know Pac wont' get any credit after it's all over.. claiming Valuev was on the decline/shot but.. I think Pacquiao decisions even "prime" Valuev. Then no one can say Pacquiao is ducking overgrown hairy Russians.
valuev is a glorified journeyman, bro. have you seen pac's busted up face after just taking a few hits from clottey? well, fck... take a look at this:
http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad236/ummeed/valuev.jpg
the dude's face is all fubar and it's not even training camp yet... if that ain't a tomato can, i don't know what is.
valuev is old, shot, and washed up... why the fck is this annoying midget picking to fight him? the fight is fixed anyway, arum wont let his cash cow lose, and since oscar has some cut on his purse, he's part of the fix, too.
and valuev, really? valuev doesn't have a facebook, valuev doesn't have a twitter, valuev doesn't have a youtube channel wtf! this is just a move to blatantly duck haye... i mean cmon, when was the last time you've seen pac fight a slick european black bisexual boxer?
i bet the pactards will still give pac alot of credit after this farce of a match tho, fcking pathetic.
oh and yeah... no OST? fck this fight!!!!
I know Pac wont' get any credit after it's all over.. claiming Valuev was on the decline/shot but.. I think Pacquiao decisions even "prime" Valuev. Then no one can say Pacquiao is ducking overgrown hairy Russians.
valuev is old, shot, and washed up... why the fck is this annoying midget picking to fight him? the fight is fixed anyway, arum wont let his cash cow lose, and since oscar has some cut on his purse, he's part of the fix, too.
and valuev, really? valuev doesn't have a facebook, valuev doesn't have a twitter, valuev doesn't have a youtube channel wtf! this is just a move to blatantly duck haye... i mean cmon, when was the last time you've seen pac fight a slick european black bisexual boxer?
i bet the pactards will still give pac alot of credit after this farce of a match tho, fcking pathetic.
oh and yeah... no OST? fck this fight!!!!
Pacman wins because valuev will get frustrated and will use those big hand as hammers and drop it on pacmans head!
Pacman gets koed but wins cause valuev will be DQ
Who do you see winning this fight and how? If Pac runs between Nikolai's legs fast enough, maybe Nikolai will trip? If pac punches at that very moment it would officially be a knockdown.. Expect a couple 10/8 rds..
but pacquiao needs a ladder or some kind of thing that he could fly to reach valuevs head. manny would be so fast that valuev would chase him and hit nothing but air or he would hit valuev hard below the belt and valuev would fall and wont get up this fight would be named The Giant has fallen
I know I know, this thread is pactarded! But let's give it a shot. Weight would be unlimited as there is no possible catchweight that could make sense. Valuev is a special kind of fighter who while effective against fellow big men is rendered helpless against athletic elites. I wouldn't consider Pacquiao fighting any other high level heavies, but Valuev is so overwhelmingly big that it could work to his disadvantage.
If Manny didn't want to get hit, there's no way Valuev could hit him. It would be near impossible for Manny to hit Valuev in the head unless Valuev bent down, but Manny could theoretically reach/hop and land punches on his waistline. Nothing strong enough to hurt or force respect, but possibly enough to score. How does everyone see this fight playing out? Poll to follow!!
Its a good thought actually, it has already happened....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey0UVew1xNc
Hong man is 3x the athlete that Valuev is AT LEAST, and Kaoklai is a very talented fighter also...In a street fight I can see Manny jumping onto his face and beating him to death...Valuev to big, slow, and weak to keep off Pacroid's pacrage.
Basically, the same thing that happened with Marciano will come into play here. He was so damn short that the taller opponents couldn't land a solid shot on him, it isn't like Valuev is scary in the ring by any means >.< Butterbean is a more legit fighter...
good thread :boxing:
This sh*t is legit. Let's not pretend like this thread is hurting NSB's credibility! I've got 100K points on Pac if it gets made! Who wants it?
lol.........
I'd love to hear someone give an honest explanation of how it could play out in Valuev's favor.. Granted it's a freak show and it's unlikely a respectable comission would permit this but.. I stand by Pac via decision.
when will they fight? cant wait for this mega show, the smallest boxer versus the largest bring it on!:boxing:
Who do you see winning this fight and how? If Pac runs between Nikolai's legs fast enough, maybe Nikolai will trip? If pac punches at that very moment it would officially be a knockdown.. Expect a couple 10/8 rds..
Natas thinks Manny doesn't let Valuev off the hook.. Finishes the job, I can respect that. Manny's a great finisher.
I get it.. NSB is filled with Valuev huggers, you're all in denial!
Manny would win more convincingly than Haye
Natas thinks Manny doesn't let Valuev off the hook.. Finishes the job, I can respect that. Manny's a great finisher.
Manny would win more convincingly than Haye
All Valuev has to do is ask, Bob's not scared. Let's do this. Can't wait to hear Roach ripping him in the press during training.
24ft ring, Pacquiao would win.
How could Valuev ever hit him? I can't imagine it.. I admit if Pacquiao tried being brave and letting Valuev trap him on the ropes like with Cotto. He could actually get killed. Straight up murdered.. but he wouldn't do that. Pac could run in and tie Valuev's sneakers together and be out before Nikolai threw a jab.
If Manny were to turn Valuev, he'd be able to get 2 to 3 shots off before Valuev was even in position/set to throw. In addition to the fact that Valuev would have to bend far down just to reach his tiny target.
I've got Team Valuev shook now.. Why hasn't Valuev mentioned Pac?.. quack quack
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