DiBella on PW-Martinez Catchweight: it's 158 max. "It's in the contract."

Judging by Martinez' weight 4 weeks away.....YES IT WILL BURNER. I can't bet on Martinez after that info as i don't know whether that's how he drops weight all the time or if it is an abberration, but 18 pounds in four weeks seems too much. According to Lou Dibella Martinez weighed in fully clothed. Weigh-in may be slightly misleading.

Judging by Martinez' weight 4 weeks away.....YES IT WILL BURNER. I can't bet on Martinez after that info as i don't know whether that's how he drops weight all the time or if it is an abberration, but 18 pounds in four weeks seems too much. That will be Martinez's fault. I think hes taking Paul lightly it will backfire.

Catch weight wont matter really. Judging by Martinez' weight 4 weeks away.....YES IT WILL BURNER. I can't bet on Martinez after that info as i don't know whether that's how he drops weight all the time or if it is an abberration, but 18 pounds in four weeks seems too much.

158? WTF is the point of that? Williams wanted it. Judging from the "30 day out" weigh in he must know Sergio would struggle to get down more than him. As of the 30 day weigh ins Martinez has to lose 2 kilograms a week just to make the contracted weight. That's far too much to be cutting every weeek for 4 weeks leading into the fight. It's prob going to make him sluggish if not downright drained.

The catchweight is solely about getting in on the Pacquiao sweepstakes in May.

Really, why not just have it at the official Middleweight limt? Stupid...........

Catch weight wont matter really.

Martinez is the man...... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/499110-sergio-martinez-not-manny-pacquiao-is-the-most-important-man-in-boxing Manny Pacquiao: Why Sergio Martinez Is The More Important Man in Boxing By Dave Carlson (Featured Columnist) on October 22, 2010 2,565 reads 9 comments 2 likes Alg_sergio_martinez_headshot_crop_340x234 Sergio Martinez The most important man in boxing has a charming million dollar smile, stands less than six feet tall, and is small for his weight division. He is renowned for his quick fists and skilled boxing ability; he recently moved up in weight to win a title in another weight class; and he is one of the top pound-for-pound fighters in the world. Manny Pacquiao? No. Floyd Mayweather, Jr.? Wrong again. He is Sergio Martinez, the 5'10" middleweight champion from Argentina who has a November 20th rematch with Paul "The Punisher" Williams in boxing's most significant bout this year. If you're a casual boxing observer or even a die-hard fan, this may be hard to believe. Following the press coverage and online boxing forums, it may seem like the only boxers in the world today are Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather Jr., and whoever their next opponents are. There is no question that those two are the two most famous, and arguably two most talented, boxers in the world today, and a bout between them would be the biggest boxing match in over 20 years. But how long have we been talking about that match for? At least since Pacquiao defeated Oscar De La Hoya two years ago. And is it any closer to taking place? By all appearances, no. Why The Mayweather-Pacquiao Model is Failing Boxing and its Fans So at this point, we as boxing fans must accept the futility of hoping for a Mayweather-Pacquiao matchup. It could happen, no doubt, but nobody knows, and this idle speculation does nothing to bring the fight any closer. If anything, it presents the illusion to Mayweather and Pacquiao's promoters that their fighters are the only ones that matter, which lets them milk their hype for all it is worth. Sergio-martinez_crop_340x234 Yet a shrewd observer can see the "Team Mayweather vs. Team Pacquiao" model is not working. Boxing's ratings are still down, and the matches simply aren't that entertaining. Think about it. What was the last good Mayweather fight you saw? Hatton, maybe, or you could go back even further to his May 2007 bout with De La Hoya. How about Pacquiao? His fight with Cotto was entertaining, but the damaged Puerto Rican didn't win more than two or three rounds. So again, we probably go back to March 2008 and his second fight with Juan Manuel Marquez. This means we're left with two fighters who consistently produce uninspiring bouts against token opposition. No matter how many well-crafted HBO 24/7 specials there are, it's impossible to escape from the fact that, at best, we are watching the world's top two fighters take on our second- or third-choice opponents. I don't care how dominant Pacquiao or Mayweather looks. People worldwide are losing interest, for one reason. Good fights, not good fighters, make boxing worthwhile Who do you think we'll remember better in 50 years: Joe Frazier or Roy Jones, Jr.? Jones was a superior athlete and had a much longer winning streak. Yet the hard-fought Thrilla in Manila and Fight of The Century against Ali, and the "Down Goes Frazier!" calls against George Foreman, are far more enduring than Jones' dominant victories over Mike McCallum, Montell Griffin and Virgil Hill. Who will win Williams vs. Martinez II? Sergio Martinez Paul Williams Submit Vote vote to see results Today is no different. Boxing will be defined not by the rampant speculation, but by the fights that grab our attention. Corrales vs. Castillo, Gatti vs. Ward, Vazquez vs. R. Marquez, J.M. Marquez vs Barrera: it's not the most-hyped or most one-sided fights that keep us glued to our seats, it's the all-out battles. It's the same as in any sport. During the first round of March Madness, we watch the 7-10, 6-11, and 5-12 matchups because these matches showcase fascinating drama rather than trite, predictable results. Sergio Martinez offers the most excitement in boxing today This is why Sergio Martinez is probably the most important man in boxing today. First off, he's an extraordinarily talented athlete. He was a top-level soccer player and professional cyclist before he started boxing 15 years ago at age 20. He is now ranked as the 6th best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. Secondly, he's extraordinarily marketable. He is probably the most handsome champion in boxing right now, and his rugged, gritty performances make him as appealing to male fans as he is to female fans, if not more so. He is charming, likeable, and speaks well in English, with an accent like Antonio Banderas. Third, he has had excellent fights. This may be surprising for someone with less than a 50% career knockout percentage, but a Martinez fight is always a fight worth watching. His last three fights - a unanimous decision win over Kelly Pavlik, a controversial majority decision loss in his first fight against Williams, and a controversial majority decision draw against Kermit Cintron. 1-1-1 may not seem like what you'd want from boxing's most important figure, but the quality of his opposition has been substantial, and he could have won all three fights. Williams-martinez_crop_340x234 Sergio Martinez vs. Paul "The Punisher" WIlliams Fourth, he continues to book fights against only the top opposition. Paul Williams used to be "the most avoided fighter in boxing." Then, after he narrowly defeated Martinez in their first outing, it was Williams who was doing the dodging - only signing to fight Martinez again after all other lucrative options had been exhausted. He is fighting Williams again, and then no one knows what will happen after that, but we can be certain that it should be interesting. He may not be boxing's next "top dog", but he will define who is Martinez is 35 years old, smaller than Williams, and is only ranked # 6 P4P in the world, going up against Paul "The Punisher" Williams, who is ranked # 5, on November 20th. There is a very real possibility (50-50 according to Las Vegas oddsmakers) that Martinez will lose to Williams again. But the winner of their fight is in all likelihood going to move up to number 3 or 4 pound for pound, leapfrogging Nonito Donaire and probably Juan Manuel Marquez (who hasn't had any huge wins lately). The winner may even move up to number 2 if Mayweather remains inactive. So Martinez may not be the next great boxing star, but at this point in time, he is the most important person in terms of defining who that next star is. If he wins over Williams, then we can expect to see a lot more of Martinez, including a potential rubber match against Williams, a bout at a catchweight against Pacquiao, or even matches against some of the Super Six super middleweights. If Williams wins over Martinez, then Williams indisputably becomes one of the world's marquee boxers who fans will no longer be able to ignore. A second win over Martinez will bring Williams the fame that he has long deserved, and fans won't help but take notice. Since both he and Williams can fight in three or four different weight classes, the opportunities are plentiful and the rewards substantial. Until November 20th, no one will know what the future holds for these two fighters, and the middleweight division as a whole. But as long as Pacquiao and Mayweather keep twiddling their thumbs, then much of boxing's future lies in the hands of a 5'10" Argentinian whose actions in the next few months will help define boxing's trajectory into 2011 and beyond.

I tweeted this to Lou Dibella. TheRealPhantom5 @loudibella Hey Lou. I got two questions. (1) Was Sergio fully clothed when he weighed in? (2) Why is there a catch-weight? Thanks. Lou tweeted back. @TheRealPhantom5 Yes,Sergio weighed in fully clothed. With respect to the catch weight,it was necessary to get the deal done. lol, least the fight is happening

I tweeted this to Lou Dibella. TheRealPhantom5 @loudibella Hey Lou. I got two questions. (1) Was Sergio fully clothed when he weighed in? (2) Why is there a catch-weight? Thanks. Lou tweeted back. @TheRealPhantom5 Yes,Sergio weighed in fully clothed. With respect to the catch weight,it was necessary to get the deal done. Good try bro. Guess they cant say more than that.

I tweeted this to Lou Dibella. TheRealPhantom5 @loudibella Hey Lou. I got two questions. (1) Was Sergio fully clothed when he weighed in? (2) Why is there a catch-weight? Thanks. Lou tweeted back. @TheRealPhantom5 Yes,Sergio weighed in fully clothed. With respect to the catch weight,it was necessary to get the deal done.

Yeah but if he planned to go back to 154, he woulda kept his belt cos hes already Ring Champ at 160. At least thats how it looks to me. I think hes grown into a middleweight now. He looked pretty small against Pavlik cos Pavlik is probably too big for middleweight himself. But if they were going to make the Williams fight for the MW titles, I dont think he could keep the 154lb belt... Although if I were him I would of..

I'm hoping Martinez show at 160 and stops the catchweight BS. He's the middleweight Champion of the World and no challenger should dictate any lower limits than the Middleweight limits. Martinez!! SHOW UP AT 160 and tell the petty crybabies to kiss you azz! :nonono: :pat:

I am pretty certain he could not keep both WBC belts at 154 and 160... And no he may not want to go back to 154, but I am talking about natural size... I would still not call him a natural middleweight. Actually after Pwill, and especially if he loses I see him going back to 154... many more lucrative fights at 154 than 160... I actually think Williams will want to go back down as well unless he can grab a fight with Pavlik.. Yeah but if he planned to go back to 154, he woulda kept his belt cos hes already Ring Champ at 160. At least thats how it looks to me. I think hes grown into a middleweight now. He looked pretty small against Pavlik cos Pavlik is probably too big for middleweight himself.

Yeah but hes 35 now and once you start weighing 158, 159 for a few fights in a row, you aint really gonna wanna come back down to 154. He also gave up his 154 belt so... I am pretty certain he could not keep both WBC belts at 154 and 160... And no he may not want to go back to 154, but I am talking about natural size... I would still not call him a natural middleweight. Actually after Pwill, and especially if he loses I see him going back to 154... many more lucrative fights at 154 than 160... I actually think Williams will want to go back down as well unless he can grab a fight with Pavlik..

I wouldn't really go by weighing 5 lbs above what he was fighting at, as evidence that he clearly isn't a Jr. MW anymore... I mean he chose to go up in weight... doesn't necessarily mean he's still not a 154lber naturally.. Yeah but hes 35 now and once you start weighing 158, 159 for a few fights in a row, you aint really gonna wanna come back down to 154. He also gave up his 154 belt so...

I honestly dont know. I was referring more to the fact he weighed 159 in his last two fights, hes clearly a middleweight now imo. I dont see him ever going back to 154 unless he gets a Mayweahter or Pac fight. I wouldn't really go by weighing 5 lbs above what he was fighting at, as evidence that he clearly isn't a Jr. MW anymore... I mean he chose to go up in weight... doesn't necessarily mean he's still not a 154lber naturally..

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Was literally waiting for Dirk to reply to that. By the way Dirk... when he WAS fighting at 154lbs... what was Martinez weight 30 days out? I honestly dont know. I was referring more to the fact he weighed 159 in his last two fights, hes clearly a middleweight now imo. I dont see him ever going back to 154 unless he gets a Mayweahter or Pac fight.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Was literally waiting for Dirk to reply to that. By the way Dirk... when he WAS fighting at 154lbs... what was Martinez weight 30 days out?

pwill asking for a catchweight is stupid because martinez is really a 154 lber anyways. Clearly he is not anymore