He weighs 162 right now, 30 days out. That would give him 30 days to cut 15 lbs. He could cut 15 lbs. in three days easily. Plus this is with him just eating lunch and not watching his weight. The guy is a natural WW. I bet Berto, Mosley, Mayweather walk around at 160 or higher. Berto is around 175 I heard.
SO STOP SAYING PAUL WILLIAMS IS A MW. HE CLEARLY IS A LEGIT WW. HE WEIGHS 10 LBS MORE THAN MANNY!!!!
Bunch of damn hypocrites who chose to ignore the facts. Fact: Paul Williams fought most of his career at WW=147 lbs. Fact: PW clearly stated that he would seek out good fights from 147-160 lbs, due to lack of fighters stepping up at 147 lbs. Fact: If a fighter can make the weight limit it does not matter how tall he is.
I hate to say it but the truth is that all the Top WWs have avoided PW for the past 3 years with the exception of Margarito (who lost a close fight to him). Paul Williams is not invincible, Tony had him in trouble, Quintana outboxed him once, and Martisoyan had him rocked on Tuesday night fights years ago. All these fights were at 147 lbs. Despite his huge physical advantages, he is vulnerable; but top WW's don't want to be pushed into the type of fight it would take to beat him. Shane knows he does not have the stamina and would get it like Winky did (his only chance is a knockout). Floyd knows that he would actually have to fight to win, pop shots would not be enough with a guy who throws over 100 a round and has such a size advantage (I think Floyd is good enough to do it, but maybe he doesn't). If Tony beats Pac I would pay to watch PW and him go at it again. If Tony starts fast instead of taking off the first 4 rounds like in the first fight he wins.
Lol love how you boys know where p wil should fight. He's obviously going to fight at his ideal weight unless some good money is offered. Don't think he wakes up in the morning and say "hey how about I fight out of my comfortable weight and see what happens."
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I'd estimate Floyd walks around at 160lbs at this point naturally.
getting to 147 is child's play for him and puts little to no strain on his central nervous and immune systems.
Then why couldn't he cut down to 144?
He weighs 162 right now, 30 days out. That would give him 30 days to cut 15 lbs. He could cut 15 lbs. in three days easily. Plus this is with him just eating lunch and not watching his weight. The guy is a natural WW. I bet Berto, Mosley, Mayweather walk around at 160 or higher. Berto is around 175 I heard.
SO STOP SAYING PAUL WILLIAMS IS A MW. HE CLEARLY IS A LEGIT WW. HE WEIGHS 10 LBS MORE THAN MANNY!!!!
if he can make WW so easily, then why doesn't he campaign at WW?
same paul williams who got exposed by carlos quintana
Yeah exposed so badly that he knocked out Quintana in the rematch and hasn't lost since. Are all of your 10,000 posts that stupid? Get some fresh air man. My goodness. That post count is hilarious.
Paul really doesn't have any business at WW. Nobody wants to fight him there because he's too big. The best thing I feel he should do is stay at 154-160 and start dominating around there if he gets past Sergio. Rule those divisions so he can make a case for being "the man" there. Thats his best shot at getting a megafight with Floyd or Pac even if it highly unlikely. Even if Pac beats Marg, if Paul dominates everybody else in the division he can at least say "pac or Floyd didn't fight the man yet at 154."
Also has a hell of a lot more exciting match up's at JR & regular middleweight.
MW isn't his weight though. He should be at WW and JMW. If guys won't fight him it's up to his promoters and HBO to handle that.
he might be able to make weight, but at what cost? he's older now and it's harder for his body to not only make weight but be effective. with williams body type he doesn't have much to spare in dropping weight, unless he takes a daily colonix during his training camp, ha, seriously though, if he's sucking water weight and really drying out to make welter, he's gonna get knocked down and maybe out. punches will have a more damaging effect on him with being dried out.
i don't think welter is the best place for williams anymore.
I don't know what experience you have with cutting weight, but a lot of guys cut 15 lbs or more within three or four days of the fight. He is 15 lbs away from WW with a month before his fight. He would make it easily and comfortably. He and his trainer said WW is his best weight.
Doesnt matter what he is 30 days out , depends on what he had to do to get where he is and how far away from the point it cuts into him which could be 154 , your throwing numbers on face value , not what the fighter really is in relation to the number ,, .
I don't know what that was supposed to say, and I'm not being a prick. Most MW's weigh over 170 at the beginning of the week of the fight. Not 2 lbs over (or 5) 30 days prior to.
he might be able to make weight, but at what cost? he's older now and it's harder for his body to not only make weight but be effective. with williams body type he doesn't have much to spare in dropping weight, unless he takes a daily colonix during his training camp, ha, seriously though, if he's sucking water weight and really drying out to make welter, he's gonna get knocked down and maybe out. punches will have a more damaging effect on him with being dried out.
i don't think welter is the best place for williams anymore.
He weighs 162 right now, 30 days out. That would give him 30 days to cut 15 lbs. He could cut 15 lbs. in three days easily. Plus this is with him just eating lunch and not watching his weight. The guy is a natural WW. I bet Berto, Mosley, Mayweather walk around at 160 or higher. Berto is around 175 I heard.
SO STOP SAYING PAUL WILLIAMS IS A MW. HE CLEARLY IS A LEGIT WW. HE WEIGHS 10 LBS LESS THAN MANNY!!!!
Doesnt matter what he is 30 days out , depends on what he had to do to get where he is and how far away from the point it cuts into him which could be 154 , your throwing numbers on face value , not what the fighter really is in relation to the number ,, .
It's not his fault he's built that way, but it still gives him an substantial height and reach advantage over every other WW
Well that's too bad. Either fight the best in your division or come out and say you're ducking people because the risk isn't worth it.
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I'd estimate Floyd walks around at 160lbs at this point naturally.
getting to 147 is child's play for him and puts little to no strain on his central nervous and immune systems.
Exactly. Same thing with Paul, that's why he weighed 145 so many times.
Nes NY it was an obvious typo
Check Hook I'm not saying Floyd was too big for anyone. I'm saying Paul weighs within 5-10 lbs of all these guys and he is definitely NOT a MW if he is weighing 162 a month out. He's not even a JMW. He's a WW. Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, they all weigh much more than that.
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I'd estimate Floyd walks around at 160lbs at this point naturally.
getting to 147 is child's play for him and puts little to no strain on his central nervous and immune systems.
He weighs 162 right now, 30 days out. That would give him 30 days to cut 15 lbs. He could cut 15 lbs. in three days easily. Plus this is with him just eating lunch and not watching his weight. The guy is a natural WW. I bet Berto, Mosley, Mayweather walk around at 160 or higher. Berto is around 175 I heard.
SO STOP SAYING PAUL WILLIAMS IS A MW. HE CLEARLY IS A LEGIT WW. HE WEIGHS 10 LBS LESS THAN MANNY!!!!
Floyd doesn't walk around higher than 160.
Made this thread here to explain why i am almost certain this is the case:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=397967
Floyd has gone from being too small to compete with guys like Judah at 140 and way too small for men like Baldomir at 147 too suddenly being too BIG for SSM. It's ridiculous. Floyd is a natural 147 pounder. He has to lose 10 pounds or less to get to 147. This is why he has more stamina than the other guys there......he is able to eat what he wants. You need calories to perform.
Williams weighs 10 lbs less than Manny?
that's weird. Manny'll weigh in about 149.5. Good to know P.Dub wants to fight down at JWW....some nice competition down there.